Too bad it didn't go longer. Win Engelland. Jackman was taking shots at the little guy. Would have loved to have seen Big Ern grab him, a lesson could have been sent across the league. Come on Grats, give an old school lesson like Simenko use to do.
Where is McGrattan?
Don't see it that way, Jackman finishes. Jackmans a gamer, I love that guy!
Exhibiting Lemming-like behaviour throughout... Jackman attempts to bully the smaller players on a team with McGrattan on it's roster... only to opt for the near death experience of willingly engaging Engelland Living to tell the tale is not a moral victory
Win Engelland... A little surprised this was the only scrap of the game with both sides loaded.. Maybe one day we'll see McGrattan drop the gloves again....
Engelland got in the only effective blows. The takedown at the end was done to stop the beating more than anything else.
Edge to Engelland!
A few years ago, if I were to see Jackman's name pop up I might not even watch the fight He's a lower-class heavyweight fighter.. Now when his name comes up I always watch him Because of the lack of heavyweights around this league Hes a still a bad fighter, however And he proves against a usually pretty good Engelland
Jackman goes looking for a fight and gets on in Uncle Deryk. I think Deryk got the best shots in if any and hurt his hand in the process. Jackman is one ugly sob, just saying.
Engelland gets the nod. Jack man is out of his league picking a fight with Engelland. Even with the cheap shot he loses again.
Jackman initiates the challenge and Engelland accepts. Engelland gets the better of the exchange and gets the win.
Engelland with the win.
draw.i dont see how can anybody win a fight while being punched to the face on his knees when linesmen are breaking it up ..lol at the announcer
Win goes to the one that isn't one of the Jackman triplets(Hugh, Barrett and Tim)
Hey Jackman, don't pick on a 150 pound Johnny Hockey. Well, OK, if you pick on him, be prepared to face retribution. Surprisingly, Jackman willing went to Engelland for said retribution -- probably to avoid McGrattan.
Slight edge to Engelland ... Pens miss you on the 4th line ...
Terrible. Engelland throws a couple of punches with nothing landing and then gets knocked to his knees by a Jackman tug. For fuck sakes Engelland, that wasn't Brashear that you were fighting, so how in the fuck do you get knocked off balance so easily by that plug? Then again, dropping to your knees seems to be inherent in Calfairy......Now it all makes sense why he got tugged down so easily. ............ StalkClaire, it's obvious that you're not only a stalker but totally unknowledgeable when it comes to.........well ANYTHING, but now I think I know one of the reasons why and that's because you're obviously as blind as Ray Charles and your seeing eye dog can't type. That can be the only possible explanation as to why you said that Jackman didn't have anything to do with Engelland losing his balance. Now I know Engelland can't skate for shit, but even he wouldn't fall forward onto his face on his own.......or like you would after tripping over your drooling lip after seeing Kevin Bieksa, whom it's very obvious you have a man crush on since you drop his name in almost everyone of your ridiculous posts. I'm not sure that stalking two people at the same time is ok in the stalking handbook, but since you think so highly of yourself, I'm pretty sure that you just consider yourself a trend setter in that regard........kind of like wearing your manpris complete with your fannypack out in public.......although since Calfairy is so far behind the times, maybe that's in style there, just like that gay Cowboy movie from a few years ago, that you probably watch on a nightly basis. .................................. StalkClaire, I know that blindness is just one of your issues but you better have someone re-read my posts, since you're so intent on responding to all of them anyways. All I said was that Jackman pulled Engelland to the ice with a tug, waaaaaay to easily too I might add again. And since I don't think they have anyway of putting brail to video, please have someone who can see and knows what they're talking about relay to you what everyone other than you saw. And I'm the cyber stalker eh StalkClaire? Fuck, you say some totally ridiculous and delusional shit on here but calling me a cyber stalker takes the cake. You feel the need to respond to almost every single one of my posts and yet I'M the cyber stalker? I post about a hockey fight, you respond directly to my posts almost EVERY single time and yet I'm somehow the stalker??? WTF??? Does the little world that you live in also contain unicorns and mermaids and fairies(and not the fairy type that you usually get called out for being)? What is they say, the first sign of knowing you have a problem is admitting it.............and you're obviously still in denial. Of course because I'm not some little bitch and won't take a back seat to some uninformed old man stalking me on this site, I respond to you after you've already posted directly to me. It's called defending myself to someone who's directly posting to me. I must say, the only thing that's the least bit original about you is that you're the first stalker of mine who didn't have a vagina........then again maybe you do/who really knows for sure. ......................................... StalkClaire, that's what I thought. Somebody, probably your caregiver (god bless her), told you what I actually said and not what you thought you brailed, and then probably told you in the nicest way possible, how mentally fucked up you are and that you do not have the mental capacity to respond to anything except when you're asked by said caregiver "if you need your diaper changed StalkClaire"? So, transgenders don't count eh? Well, I guess that means that you're in your own stalking category then. An original you are and on your own list............dude And those aren't very nice things to say about your sister StalkClaire, but I guess the whole stalking things runs in the family. Sad........... ............................... You know exactly what I'm talking about StalkClaire, so don't play dumb...........wait a minute, sorry I forgot who I'm talking too, and you're not actually playing dumb are you, that's just your reality. Oh well I guess that's what I get for somehow finding a stalker like you who is obviously as sharp as an orange. And you just don't get it do you? I respect that you have the intelligence level of a retarded turkey, but when are you going to catch on that I don't want or need your advice. And I know your obvious mental issues and the whole stalking thing has made you think that we're friends, but I can assure you that we are definitely not. So, beat it with that shit would ya. ............................ And there it is StalkClaire. It's all coming together now. Essondale eh? A former home of yours perhaps.......naturally. I'm just surprised that they ever let you out..............and you sure must be an old prick being a patient there when it was still called Essondale. As for the stalking thing being a curable disorder, only you would know, until you fell off the wagon with me that is. But I can't totally blame you because a guy likes me has many folowers and admirers and you're just following in line with the masses. Another Bieksa comment eh? Why don't you just join his fan club or start one yourself? I'm sure your transgender cave is covered in his jerseys and other KB3 memorabilia. .......................... StalkClaire, I'm sure they've got you all changed into your Bieksa jammies and Canucks slippers, colostomy bag all cleaned and bib all strategically placed(probably required because of your man crushes on KB3 and I), and now you can take your walker and get your delusional and freaky transgendered 90 year self and go away now, I would say for good but we all know...........stalk, stalk, stalk. ............................... StalkClaire, again with the basement thing? Originality sure isn't your thing is it? And my Mom's dead, so yet another thing that you're wrong about. Have you ever actually been right? Even Haley's comet comes around once every 76 years or so............. stalk, stalk,stalk .......................... StalkClaire, assuming that I'm telling the truth about my Mom? Are you fucking kidding me? Who would lie about something like that? Maybe someone like you, but not anyone with any sort of morals. But hey, if you want to get families involved in this, then I can lower myself and start talking shit about your wife and kids if you want.................and since I know you read and respond to all of my posts, hopefully you do everyone a favor and fall of the chair first.......head first. ..................... StalkClaire, if anyone would know about bat shit crazy it would be you considering your stalking tendencies.....actually at this point it's not even a tendency but a lifestyle for you. Try as much as you want, but once again this is what happens, I post, you respond DIRECTLY to my posts and I respond to you to defend myself. So, since I'm not sure I can break it down any more simply for you, which is obviously what you require. But I'm not used to dealing with people with special needs such as yourself, so maybe there's a way that you people have things made even simpler for them. Either way, I feel extreme pity for you and the fact that somehow in that convoluted mind of yours, you'd think that my posts would have anything to do with my family situation, proves what a douchebag you actually are while in the same breath also proving how pathetic, disillusioned and pitiful you are. So, maybe I should give you a break considering all of your issues. I'll think about.......... ..................... Well, I've thought about it StalkClaire, and I've decided that if you're going to continue to stalk me and get personal at the same time, then I'm good with it........and what's good for the goose is good for the gander and you can take your previous insincere apology and stick it where you usually stick your favorite dildo. Aside from all of that boring drivel you spewed, I had no idea about your teenage daughter, but I'm sure she's very, very proud that her old man is a low life degenerate stalking douchebag. It's probably also why your cock craving wife cries herself to sleep at night. You're stalking me and she's in bed diddling herself while watching George Clooney movies. And while you're at work, collecting cans on the side of the road and in parking lots, she's out sucking dick for bus fare and then walking home..........and using all of that man juice she swallows up daily as protein to keep up her energy. Sad but true. How's that for self righteous.......I guess it's your turn. Stalk, stalk, stalk......... ........................ Oh, did I strike a nerve StalkClaire? Good........ fukk you, you fucking low life piece of shit. You want to talk shit and stalk me, fuck you mother fukker. The way I see it, you got off easy. And I tell you what, the next time you're in Vancouver, send me a message(it's your specialty anyways) and I'll give you directions and happily take you up on your offer of trying to fuck me up, you fukking puss. But have a good meal before you do, because it'll be your last. I'll fukking stomp the ignorance out of you and send you back to Calfairy in a fukking box. Not that you're capable of doing so, but count on it. ...................... Deny it all you want StalkClaire, but your response is proof of your agitation, and too fukking bad. You started all of this shit asshole. The fact that you're stalking another guy, well I'm a guy at least although I can't say for 100% sure that you are, but given the odds considering this is a hockey fight site I'll assume you partially are at least, who would know better than you about homosexual fantasies. Keep talking you fucking jerkoff. And if at well over feet tall and 240 lbs I'm little to you, then you must be one big and likely sloppy fat bitch....... Retribution eh? Where I come from that's considered a threat, so you want to go that route? Fine by me, so keep pushing your luck. Just keep your head up StalkClaire, cause I'll hunt you down motherfukker, and yes all the way in Calfairy...........and I'll stick that silver spoon of yours right in your ear. Speaking of proud, I'm sure your daughter is super proud of dear old Daddy. And your wife, well she's probably too busy to give a shit about you either way. ..................... Back again for more eh StalkClaire? Hmmmmm, I've heard the same exact same thing about some of your family members, particularly a certain married one.......and do you really want me to go into details and explain it to you, because I will if you want? And as much as you try to make yourself believe it, trying to make it seem like you're not the stalker doesn't make it true. AGIAN, I post in the fight log and you respond DIRECTLY to MY post. Hence you being a stalker. Not hard for anyone to figure out with an IQ above single digits, which I guess leaves you out and unable to comprehend those facts. And I meant well over 6 feet tall, as I see that my 6 didn't show up. But if you're going to pick out my typos, how about proof reading your own posts too because you " well believe I'm 240lbs". And whether you choose to believe it or not, I could really give a shiat, but why would someone brag about that? Among the rest of your issues, I guess we can add little man syndrome to the mix. And why would I need anything to bash you over the head with? You'd piss all over yourself and probably punch yourself in the face rather than actually have to back up any of your cyber stalk/talking, which if I was as pathetic as you, might be a good idea anyways. As for Christmas, I hope that you put condoms and complimentary STI tests in your loved ones stalkings.............and yes I know I spelt stalkings and not stockings, but for you it seemed rather appropriate considering your condition. Stalk, stalk, stalk............... ..................... So StalkClaire, you've just proved once again you're a MAJOR stalker. By saying that I post long after the fact and yet you somehow dig through these so called old posts of mine, to see what I have to say AND respond, proves your stalking. Who else waits and follows and then directly responds to someone elses posts other than a stalker? Well done numbnuts. You're the epitome of a stalker and you just proved it with your comments, although there was no doubt before that anyways. And trying to make yourself into some sort of hockey fight site hero by trying to set me straight because you don't like my posts, yet you feel the need to respond to all of them, just proves how pathetic and small you are. And if at 240lbs and well over 6 feet tall that makes me a slob, well then you're stupider than anyone thought. I know you're just saying that so that I'll post a picture of myself on here, so that you can pleasure yourself over it, but I'm not into that StalkClaire. It's just not my thing. But if you're that hard up(appropriately worded) to get in a quick rub off, I'm sure you can use the plethora of pictures of random dudes.........on your wifes phone. And there are those of us who do, and then there's those of you who always wanted too but couldn't. You're still bitter about being the last one picked in whatever you did and you're now taking your frustrations out as a cyber stalker..........with little man syndrome. Stalk, stalk, stalk............ ............................... Wholly fuck StalkClaire, you really are a sad old man aren't you? One who obviously can't fulfill his wifes needs. Sad, but obviously true.....but she's probably better not having you touch her anyways. You're a little bitch, she knows it and you know it, you just don't have the courage to admit it. So, you troll old posts, then respond to me directly and yet you still don't think you're a stalker? Shows what a fucking dumbass you truly are. Actually, it shows what kind of denial that you're in as well as being totally pathetic. And you started the family thing you stupid fucking twat, so reap what you sow cock smoker. And maybe your mind games work on your retirement buddies when you're all around having a circle jerk and you tell them that you can't participate because you forgot to take your blue pill, when in reality it's because your cock/baby clit is too small and your worried about getting laughed at like you did in the showers in high school, but no matter how much you try to provoke me by calling me a slob or a porker or whatever, you're still not going to get that picture of me. Nice try though StalkClaire. And you're seriously giving me advice on spelling and grammar and asking me for an editor, when you're the same useless genius that posted on your own home page while trying to send me a personal message? And you're the same fool who questioned me calling you a punk, not knowing all of the meanings of the word? Yup, you're the last person that anyone will be taking advice from in.........well anything. Stalk, stalk, stalk.............. ....................... StalkClaire, steam baths and gay porn? You seem to know an awful lot about these steam baths. Interesting.......maybe it's not just the fact that your wife won't give it up to you but also because you're a bigger fan of the cock than you are of whatever she has. As for you being in Vancouver next month, don't get me all excited Stalkclaire because if you think I'm fucking around about smashing your sad and pathetic fucking face in, well I'm not. So, you better come with the hands StalkClaire or whatever else you think you might need. Stalk, stalk, stalk........... ...................... Just as I thought StalkClaire, all talk no action, just like your sex life or lack there of. And even though I wouldn't know where to find a gay steam bath that you obviously know so much about, at least we found something that you're good at. But with you being such a connoisseur of such places, sure explains a lot about your personal life. And I don't have a disrespect for women at all. I love them, every part of them, and they love me. Can't help it you jealous fucking douchebag. That's just the way it is and alsways has been. As for the gay rape, if there's any place that would happen it would be Calfairy, but lucky enough for me, I'm not a puny little puke like you are and can protect myself, again unlike you. Then again, it's not really rape when you willingly take it like you do......So, try again you pathetic asshole, maybe one day you'll get it right. So, keep stalking pussy - stalk, stalk, stalk....... ...................... StalkClaire, you pathetic fucking dolt. You just can't help yourself can you? I can almost guarantee you that you're older than me. First of all, nobody with a set of balls who's less than 60 years old drinks martinis, with the only exception being if they take cock up the bum on a regular basis. And since we KNOW that the latter is true with you, it's quite likely the former is too. And keep trying your reverse psychology StalkClaire with the whole thinking that I'm overweight thing just so that you can try and get a picture of me because it's not going to work you little flamer................although it might spare everyone else on this site, myself included, having to listen to your terrible posts and annoying drivel, because you'll be too busy rubbing one off 24/7(if you can still get it up at your advanced age) rather than posting on here. But then again, your wife will just take it from you because she'll be so excited to see what a real man looks like. As for original material, take a look in the mirror you sad, little old man because the whole parents basement thing is as generic as it gets and is a go to for every little pussy that can't get an original thought. Talk and stalk, that's all you're about StalkClaire................and tell your wife I said hello. Stalk, stalk, stalk......... ....................... StalkClaire, wrong again you stupid cum guzzler. I can't stand wine but even that would be better than sipping on old lady drinks like you prefer. One olive or two little man.........actually never mind, I don't care. And women vomit at the sight of me? That's a good one. If you only knew. And as for my so called micro weenie, your wife wasn't complaining while she was trying to get her lips around it last night........prior to taking it like the pro that she is. I also heard her say how happy she was being with a real man for once. But don't worry, it was only a pity fuck in my case to make her feel better because I felt bad for her having to be married to such a pathetic little loser like you. Poor StalkClaire, can't please his wife but isn't shy about pleasing the boys in his office by taking it in the dumper for them. Sad but true......Oh well, whatever makes you happy I guess. Keep stalking StalkClaire, keep stalking Stalk, stalk, stalk............. ............................ StalkClaire, It aint bragging when it's the truth. And what the fuck would you know about high school anyways? It's been 80 years since you were there, and hanging outside in the parking lot of your local elementary school across the street, in your white 1993 Caravan trying to entice little boys to help you find your pissed stained Shih Tzu doesn't count. And the fact that it took you 6 years to finish grade 9 before they asked you to leave is testament to the fact that your a supreme moron on top of being a pedophile. You're probably still patting yourself on the back all these years later for being so diligent in trying to get all of the way to grade 10, when the rest of us sane people just consider you to be what you actually are, a sad, little, pathetic, mentally challenged excuse for a man. Face your wrath? What is this the medieval times, you decrepit old puke?And I see you're already making excuses for not letting me know when you're in town. Like I couldn't see that coming a mile away. What a bitch!!! Not surprising though, stalk and talk, stalk and talk.......Stalking, the only thing you can be considered any good at, well that and being a little puzzy who loves the taste of man juice. Only someone that is as dense as you is unable to realize what a TOTAL embarrassment you are, to this site, as a man/woman, to yourself and most of all to your family. I almost feel sorry for them because of you......almost. Stalk, stalk, stalk.......... ................................. StalkClaire, you delusional, stalking little troll. I'm not into slump busters and can get whatever puss I want, but I had a moment of kind heartedness and just felt really sad for your wife. After all, she did "marry" you, even though it's impossible for you to satisfy her when you spend all of your time lubing your corn hole for every guy that walks by. So, being the quality guy that I am, I fucked the shit out of her and sent her on her way. You're welcome, as it probably gave you some more time to go through the classifieds to find another dude for you to let take advantage of you. As you know, the only thing that she has in common with a 10 is the 1 part. She is fat and atrociously ugly, but with some consistent time in the gym and a good doctor, she might be able to get herself up to a 2 before she turns 80. I just hope that I don't see her at the gym I go too, because that would be embarrassing for me to see her in public, especially at my gym(you now with her being a fat 1 and all) and awkward for her when I have to pretend I don't know her, as my good will can only be taken so far. Also, I heard a rumor about your so called daughter(not sure how that could happen - immaculate conception maybe, but probably more likely she's not even yours at all and is a result of one of your grossly obese wifes trysts) but it was something about her getting passed around at a party last weekend...and the weekend before...and the weekend before that...and so on. And like the old Loverboy song, she was "Lovin every minute of it". But I guess that's what happens when you have a dip shit, dumb ass, stalking, midget, pedophile loser like you for a Daddy, although maybe not her biological Daddy. Bieksa is your little fantasy crush, not mine, as you're the one who mentions him in most of your weak posts. In fact, in reality, he can be turnover prone (and don't get yourself all excited, as I don't mean the way that you're turnover prone) who can also be scary in his own end defensively sometimes. But despite his faults, he's also had a more than solid career. And that's that. Unlike you, I don't walk around with rose colored glasses. But then again, that's also probably a fashion statement you're trying to make too - you know to pick up the rest of the dick suckers you hang out with. Keep ducking me you little pillow biter because you'll eventually get yours. So, keep your head up you little fuck, which I know is hard for you considering how vertically challenged you obviously are and because of the embarrassment you should feel about the shame your family has because of you. And use any excuse you want, but all you are is a tiny little bitch, who hides behind his daughters I-pad acting tough, while she's out "playing the field". Keep on stalking StalkClaire...........and don't forget to clean up the Caravan after your daughter borrowed it. Stalk, stalk, stalk ................. StalkClaire, back again for more eh you slimy little piece of feces. Fuck you. You want to fuck around and talk shit, then you haven't seen anything yet. The way I see it you're getting off lucky because if I knew who you were, and I'm going to find out, you're going to be eating the rest of your meals that your fat whore of a wife makes you pureed or through a feeding tube they stick in your big fat gut. Just because you're mad that you have a slut for a wife and daughter, that is yours in name only, and they're giving it up so often that they're both walking bow legged, aint a reason to get mad at me jackass. I'm pretty sure your daughters only acting out because of the embarrassment of who her father, again in name only, is........well that and her meth habit. And from what I heard, she was more than happy to take it from all cummers, so if she's willing, then it aint rape. So, try and blame your short comings as a father on someone else asshole. As for your wife, I've already explained that. Legal career? Is that what they tell a little transgendered special needs puke like you who empties the recycling bins in an office these days? The only legal thing about that is that it's illegal to not be an equal opportunity employer. But if you get paid by the bin, then I'm sure it's very lucrative.....and since you're as stupid as you are pathetic, yes that was sarcasm. As for Bieksa, do you really think you're hurting my feelings when you talk about him, because let me tell you, you're not. Again, I don't wear those rose colored fairy glasses that you sport. Of course he's overpaid you stupid twat, as his 99.9% of the league. And the day I run away from you, will be the same day that your hideous looking wife stops taking all sorts of strange cock in her enormous dumper. And the answer to both of those is NEVER. So keep stalking StalkClaire, keep stalking and you'll be sorry. Stalk, stalk, stalk......... ........................ StalkClaire, you dirty little shit bag loser. You saying that I need to come up with some new material is laughable coming from you, the same guy who keeps beating a dead horse about the whole parents basement thing blah blah blah. The next original thought that you get, will be your first little man. And calling me old, considering you're the so called family man who sips on martinis like the geriatric that you are is also hysterical. You seem quite bitter that you're a little cock lover and so is your obese kunt of a wife and her loose daughter and they both get more play than you......although they give it away and you pay for it. Billable hours...well I guess that's what you call totaling on a post it the amount of hours you spend on you knees paying greasy homeless guys to suck their dick. Whatever floats your boat you short, fat old cum swallower. You talk a lot, but you're just a scared little pussy who hides behind his computer acting tough. I've had more fights than you've had hot meals you secreting little vagina. And the day I get scared of you will be the same day that your family becomes less ashamed of what a loser they have living in their midst. You couldn't fuck me up with this Louisville Slugger that you seemed so enamored with. In fact, I'd give you the first free shot, because I spar with guys in the gym who hit harder than your midget little ass possibly could even with a 34/31 in your hands. So, anytime you little fairy, anytime........stalk, stalk, stalk ................. Back again for more eh Stalkclaire? Damn, you are one dumb mutherfukker. But the only reason that you're still typing is because it's easy(as easy as your big fat size 20 wife) to type and not have to actually face someone for your weak shit talking..... at least to this point. You're the epitome of a keyboard warrior. A midget, both mentally and physically. A cock loving(the stranger the better, again just like your flabby assed wife) little piece of shit. I know that you're bitter about your tubby wife taking my dick, but I explained all of that already and it doesn't make me a hater of women at all but more of a charity donator.......although slamming her did make me physically ill, I did it because I felt sorry for her. Because again, she has a pathetic little loser for you as a "husband" who can't fulfill her voracious appetites, both sexually or by filling up her extra large boiler. Like I've told you before StalkClaire, your next original thought will be your first. You're nothing but a semen addicted little shit bag with little man syndrome. You're a little pussy who'd piss all over himself if confronted in real life. Your family is so embarrassed and ashamed of you, that they spend as much time away from you as they can.....usually in the company of other men, which I know makes you feel even more jealous, but only because you want all of those same men for yourself. I don't really care if you believe the sparring thing or not, as your opinion means nothing to anyone, especially me, and the only gym that you've ever been in was Jim. Your idea of lifting weights, is to lift your obese wifes gunt up to apply her yeast infection medication. Your idea of cardio, is sucking as many dicks as you can in a night. Your idea of protein is swallowing as much ejaculate as you can, which I guess goes hand in hand with your cardio regiment. Your idea of taking supplements is supplementing your lack of testosterone by ingesting as much man fluid as you can from every stranger that is desperate enough to accept your advances. I think with you being a midget, that might have something to do with a fetish thing for those freaks........ So, in closing, fuck you StalkClaire you little pigmy bitch...............stalk, stalk , stalk. ....................... Just as I thought Stalkclaire, you're a pussy little bitch. All talk and stalk and nothing else. You were talking all of this shit about coming to Vancouver and you were going to fuck me up and just as expected you had a bowel movement in your tighty whities at the thought of having to back up all of your fake tough guy bravado. What a giant reeking vulva you are old timer. And I see you're still using any excuse to bring up your man crush Bieksa again. What a hypocritical piece of shit you are. And I'm sure your wife does cause one to use a lot of Kleenex, but that's as a result of people laughing so hard when they look at her, that it brings them to tears. Because that tubby old bitch is a jammer waiting to happen and it's like a car crash that you can't help but look at. But I guess that's her excuse for trying to cope with having such a pathetic, inept, cock loving little twat like you for a husband. And I aint hiding Stalkclaire, I'm right fucking here. You were going to let me know when you were in town and once again you were all talk when you said you would. Because the thought of throwing some hands immediately made your bowels empty. So, instead you bitched out like the sad little shemale that you are. I'd ask for you to actually grow a set and try and find some courage, but I know that's impossible and who knows where you are in the whole gender transformation process. So, fuck you you little douche, you've just proved once again what everyone else already knew, that you're all talk and nothing else. Stalk, stalk, stalk ........................... StalkClaire, you old, gutless little puke. How does one make it through life without a spine? You must enlighten everyone as to how you do it. And as I suspected and expected, being the all talk little pussy that everyone knows you are, I didn't expect you to let me know when you were in town. One, because your lard ass wife would probably squirt all over herself out of pure desire when she looked at me, and secondly because you know that getting your wrinkly old ass kicked by someone who will back up his talk would just embarrass you even more in front of your family who is already so ashamed of you. Typical......and not the least bit surprising. You're a joke and you prove it with everyone of your weak posts. The fact that you suck as much dick as you do, is just a topper to your pathetic existence. Stalk, stalk, stalk.......... ................................... StalkClaire, you cock loving little twerp. I ducked you 3 times? Good one. You were the one that was supposed to let me know when you were in town, so that I could stick my 14's in your face and do the human race a favor, and to a lesser degree you too, and smash your dentures out and then put you out of your misery once and for all. I know that your so called family would have appreciated t
Engelland might be the new champ--of guys who actually get to fight on a semi regular basis. Everything's a bit odd in this new league...kind of like when the Golden Girls had a spin-off show. It's hard to tell who belongs where. Who IS Blanche sleeping with now?
Let's see if we can set this scenario right.... Jackman doing his best Dion Phaneuf routine going after the diminutive Gaudreau Engelland confronting Jackman and engaging him for his actions......the difference you ask........Jackman actually tries to fight....... Whereas Phaneuf....well it's obvious Win for Engelland......Jackman just incredibly grateful it wasn't Mcgratten exacting the revenge lol
win Engelland. Jackman took cheap shots while Engelland was down with a ref on him
Jackman will be seeing double for a bit... he got cracked
Engelland with the win. I always liked Engelland in Pittsburgh...when they didn't scratch him for some softie.
Jackman has no chance against Engelland and was lucky he didn't get put to sleep. Calgary doesn't have to put their goon one the ice. They have a really tough guy that can play...big advantage. Engelland is making big money now and he earns it every game. Detroit, Boston, T Bay and of course the sissies in Vancouver would love to have him.
Not sure Jackman even threw a punch before Engelland went down. As otherws have mentioned, Jackman took some cheap shot after pulling him down. Probably frustrated after taking those shots to the face. Win Engelland. They fought quite a few times and he's hasn't had much success. Maybe let someone else take a run at him (Stoner/Maroon?) lol
Decent fight. Edge Deryk Engelland.
Jackman was so embarrassed he had his ass kicked that he threw a dirty punch while Englland was down and the fight was over. Dirty dirty [email protected]#. Englland shows once again that he is no one to be taken lightly. Go Flames, one of two surprisingly teams this year.
engo wins over the always gamer
I'm giving Engelland the win here. What a lovely cheap shot by Jackman at the end there to give him the loss.
not much happening
Jackman did one hell of a job initiating this fight, which seemed to be the only action he took. Engelland provides all the rest for the win.
Jackoffman with the sucker punch. The only one he landed. He's still a douchenozzle.
Jackman went after Engo from the start of the shift and went after him again right before the fight. How did Jackman not get an instigator? Either way Engo with the win as Jackman didn't even land a punch
Unsurprisingly, Engelland totally dominates Jackoff. But you can see Tim's logic: OK, I proved my Bieksa-level tuffness by hacking a little guy like Gaudreau. But now McGrattan is going to beat the soul out of me. What to do? I know! Pick a scrap with Engelland or Bollig! They'll both kill me, but not as badly as Big Ern would! And in a close game (on the scoreboard), there's a good chance McGrattan doesn't see another shift. Bwahaha.... _________ DBHOF: it's perfectly OK to hate on the Flames, but not even someone as bitter and twisted as you can seriously think Jackman had anything to do with Engelland falling. And all this stuff about Calgary having a proclivity for falling on knees sits ill in the mouth (nyuk nyuk) of someone from San Francisco North. ________ DBHOF: What was that? The rough draft to Chapter 4 of "My Life in My Parent's Basement"? Seriously, man, you know just as well as everybody else who saw that fight that Jackman got bitch-slapped; period, full stop, end of sentence. Just stop it; you're making an idiot of yourself and I'm sure that you're a good person at heart even if you are something of a cyber-stalker. And as bad as Jackman is, I still get a chuckle over the time Bitchka refused to fight him after Kebby laid an open-ice elbow on the behemoth Matt Stajan. Says everything there is to say about your hero. ---------------------- DBHOF--transgenders don't count, dude. You've still never been stalked by a female. And that's OK...Vancouver prides itself on being a big happy tent where everybody can find fulfilment, including borderline crazy, living-at-the-folks-place cyber stalkers. ------------------ Dave, Dave, Dave: WTF are you babbling on about now? I guess this cyber stalking thing finally made you snap. Damn shame, that. A friendly tip--take an editing course. Psychobabble with brevity is so much easier to follow. ____________________ Davey Boy, old buddy, old pal: Come on, now. You know damn well that if you showed your ravings to the staff at Essondale or Riverview or whatever the hell it's called, you'd be committed for a very long time. Cyber stalking is a curable disorder, so there's hope for you yet. Kinda getting back to the subject, as someone who knows the Capukes well, what insights can you offer into the refusal of Kebby Bitchka to fight fighters and subsequently posing as a "tough as nails" tuff guy? Inquiring minds want to know. --------------- DBHOF---As you are resident in Gaycouver, I can totally believe you have "many flowers." Someday, I guess you'll have to come to grips with the spot-picking (flower-picking?) monstrosity that is Bitchka and wonder where it all went so very wrong. We should both send in our birth certificates to your pals at that wacko group that thinks Obama was born outside the U.S.--I suspect the age difference will be much closer than you think. -------------- Dave, Dave, Dave--when Mom gets home from "bingo," she's going to come down to your basement hovel and want you to hand over her computer. You should at least try to come up with something remotely relevant to the debate while you have the chance. Stalk away, buddy (but please keep the goo-goo eyes to yourself). _________ Dave, Dave, Dave---assuming you're telling the truth about your mom, I owe you an apology for that line of attack. However, a guy whose constant refrain is about "Calfairy" etc., when he's from one of the gayest cities on the planet isn't one to talk about originality. One day you're going to make a relatively sane comment about the Flames in general or a fight a Canuck lost (the usual turn of events) and people are going to fall right out of their chairs. ------------------ Dave, Dave, Dave--your batshit-crazy posts might give someone reason to think you'd lie about something like that. Something to reflect on when you're not too busy with the cyber-stalking thing ___________ Dave, Dave, Dave---obviously you have some kind of deep-seated need to hate to go along with your Nucklicking and Flames-hating neuroses. I'm happy to help you out with the former. Heart of gold and all that. But don't get all self-righteous about a passing (and admittedly, as it turned out, in poor taste) gibe at you using your family as a foil. If you really want we can bring in your message about what you said you'd do to my teenage daughter. Maybe you should seek psychiatric help for your own good. And an editor wouldn't hurt either. ---------- asshole--you are a sick fuck. I invite anyone who gives a shit to see your rape threat and if my help is necessary to get into the exchange to let me know. And know this, you cocksucking Vancouver faggot--if I ever come across you in person, I will fuck you up. -------------- Asshole--to really strike a nerve, you'd have to come up with a coherent thought. Your homosexual, cyber-stalking fantasies are of no interest to me or anyone else on this board. But keep talking, you little bitch. Retribution will hit you sooner than you think. Your mother must be really proud of you. -------- Don't get me wrong, you stalking little asswipe. I have nothing against gay people who frequent hockey boards--keep knocking yourself out. I well believe you're 240 pounds, especially if you're () feet tall--my guess is 4'6". And what're you going to do, you pathetic little poser--bash me over the head with a T-ball stand? Have a Merry Christmas in your sad little east end SRO, now that mommy and daddy need their basement for holiday guests. ----------- Dbhof----I'll explain this really slowly for you. You typically post long after the fact hoping nobody will call you on your batshit crazy BS. You do get called, and you try to hide behind "stalking." Sorry, bitch, you're accountable for your ignorance. Not that it matters, but saying I "well" believe you are a 240-pound slob with a room-temperature IQ is perfectly grammatically correct. And believing you are a tough-guy poser who attempts thereby to conceal his intellectual inadequacy and sexual inexperience is simply good logic. But keep it up--arguments with you get really boring after a time because you are so goddamn stupid and I might choose to move on to something more interesting like on-line Scrabble. Stalk away, my friend. ----------- DBHOF-----you'd think a guy like you who's never had sex (at least with a human female), would be a little restrained in throwing out insults at another man's wife. But since we're talking about a drooling wanker retard like you, we might be wrong. Only a cretin like yourself could try to make being called out for opinions on an inter web site equivalent to stalking. If you are honestly that stupid, I'm starting to feel a little sorry for you. You seem awfully determined to be acknowledged as some kind of a strapping god. The constant whining on this BS is a pretty clear sign that you are a sad little porker approaching pension age. Except that strip mall security guards don't get pensions. But keep on stalking, you pathetic loser. You obviously have no idea of the comedy you provide here. Finally, if you can't afford an editor, at least use a basic spell/grammar check program. ---------------- Davey boy----a guy whose only sexual outlets are the steam baths and gay porn vids can't expect to have his opinions carry much weight (nyuk nyuk) with either my wife or myself. The family angle was brought in by you with your sick, border-line criminal rape fantasy concerning my teenage daughter. Anyone who wants to check your bald-faced liar status can check the private message board for the relevant entry. But keep on stalking and talking, you sad little bitch. Looks like I may be in Vancouver next month and you know what will happen then. Fair warning so you can donate your pitiful possessions to the Sally Ann (although what use they could possibly make of your T-ball paraphernalia is a mystery). -------- Davey boy--you really are the biggest joke and fake tuff guy on this site. As a denizen of said steam baths, you'd know a lot more about them than me. It's going to cost me a fortune to have all the steam baths and women's bathrooms in the Lower Mainland scouted for your lard ass carcass next month. You need some new material, friend, and it really is sad to see the disrespect you have towards women. Like the gay rape you obviously once endured in Calgary, the underlying reasons for that are probably too gross to contemplate. Keep on stalking and talking, you T-ball ace bitch. -------- Dave, you ignorant fairy--I'm slightly amazed that even a total goof like you would go on about talk and no action. You seriously expect anyone to believe there's a woman on this planet who'd have anything to do with a 55-year-old virgin like you? You seriously expect anyone to believe a spherical tub of lard like you could (even would?) fend off the affections of gay cowboys? You seriously expect anyone to believe you'll drag yourself away from the gay porn DVDs and your parents' basement if I do have to make that trip to Vancouver? Try harder, tubby. And please--come up with some new material. You've been spouting the same illiterate BS since 2009. Keep on stalking and talking, bitch. --------- Dave, Dave, dave---240-lb. lard asses who IV ice wine have no place criticizing those who can handle gin. You seem fixated on the concept of wanking. Quite understandable since your butt has been kind of sore for all these years and women vomit on the sight of you. And my wife, having talked to your sister, says hi right back at you and your sad little micro-weenie. You are such an ineffable moron that this exchange is really becoming boring. But keep on stalking and talking, you big bitch. -------- Dbhof----you sound like the kid in high school who continually bragged about his sexual exploits unaware that everybody around him was laughing at his obvious bullshit stories. Most of those kids grew out of that phase and became contributing members of society. What went so horribly wrong for you? Considering your obvious contempt for women and your 240-lb. dirigible status, it's equally obvious that any conscious or non-handicapped woman would indeed vomit at your approach. Your dry-cleaning bills are proof of this, you pitiful little j o addict, although I guess that predilection enters into that particular expense as well. Obviously, you'll be too busy composing rape fantasy letters to the Gaycouver Times to face my wrath when business unfortunately calls me to the shithole on the west coast later this month. But keep on stalking and talking...it will get rammed down your throat one day. Can't stand olives myself--lemon twists are the way to go. I realize, however, that the price of even one martini is beyond your pathetic welfare collector status. It's all you can do to manage the odd six-pack of Bud Light to cry and piss yourself to sleep as you reflect upon the joke that is your "life." ------------ Dave, Dave, Dave, you pathetic clothesline panty thief---It beggars belief that you would try to lay out a high-school predator line. My daughter was in high school when you issued your rape threat/fantasy, remember? Clearly, at your age the memory issues associated with Alzheimer's are becoming increasingly prevalent. It's starting to become clearer where your long-term sexual dysfunction issues and hatred of women come from, however. Care to enlighten us with the name of the future roller derby star/dyke who forced you to publicly ingest your own fecal matter during recess in the schoolyard those many years ago? Spout all the bullshit braggadocio you like about your supposed sexual exploits: It doesn't change the fact that 240-lb. lard asses barricading themselves in mommy and daddy's basement while waiting for the next welfare cheque don't get laid by sentient women. I'm ducking, when you're the unemployed poofter slob with nothing but time (and something resembling a pink pickle only much, much, much smaller) on his hands? You have time to ceaselessly slobber over the purse-swinging excuse for a hockey team that infests Gaycouver, and to keep building your papier-mâché shrine to your poser tuff-guy hero Bitchka, but don't have time to take your beating for your offensive comments about my wife and child? Might want to think that one through again, Einstein. Anyway, keep on stalking and talking and flitting in fear between the shadows, bitch. You can't hide forever and mommy won't be able to save you when the time comes. --------------- Db(ag)hof----even for a pitiful fagg ot loser like you, your last post hit new lows. A 240-lb. spherical piece of shit like you obviously can't get pussy and hides "his" deficiencies behind onanistic fantasy fucks with other men's wives. And what kind of coward indulges in rape scenarios of teenage girls while hiding behind his keyboard like the Internet warrior he his? Your mom, if she indeed is dead, probably died from the shame of being partially responsible for bringing the likes of you into the world. If she's alive, she must be really proud to share the name of an obvious pedophile such as yourself. I'll give Bitchka credit for conning $25 million or so out of the Capukes. That's more than I'll make in a lucrative legal career, and is a number a mental defective such as yourself couldn't even write. Keep on stalking and talking, you sad poser tuff guy. Sooner or later you'll slip up and the new one I rip you won't be pretty. Run away, run away, you sick f u c k... ----------- Dave, you pathetic bundle of sticks (look it up, blood clot): You really don't have anything here-simply mindless repitition of your j. o. fantasies and dream rapes of teenagers and aping of my lines. Shows the kind of "man" you are and the lack of imagination you labour under. Get some new material, you fat, old POS. Take your dad's cock out of your mouth and that Louisville Slugger out of your gaping butt and God knows you'd have the time to at least try. Selling single cigarettes outside the local elementary school when your parents kick you out of the house so they can sweep the semen out of your basement hovel isn't much of a living for you, I know. Just another thing I can gloat over as I send out my billable hours. Finally, you walking HIV factory, keep your eyes open. There's no worry you could find me, and even if you did a fat effeminate poser like yourself scares nobody, but I will find you and I will totally f u c k you over when I do. I think in your heart of hearts you know it and that's why you keep acting out. Keep on stalking and talking, you phony s h I t-chomping bitch. You can't hide forever, you know. _______ Dbhof: Your tuff guy pose is comical, pure and simple. You don't spar with anyone (unless there are "gyms" in Gaycouver that specialize in allowing 240-pound giant balls of shit to repeatedly ram each other; I guess that's in the realm of possibility). Let's sum up your life: You're an unemployed fat, gay slob who can't afford his own dwelling even with the generous welfare benefits provided in your communistic joke of a province. You hate and are afraid of women and try to compensate by making up disgusting fantasies that you lack the shame to keep to yourself. You're a pitiful coward who refuses to answer for his gross Internet-warrior behaviour despite invitations to do so. You're so incredibly stupid that you can't come up with decent insults despite the essentially endless amount of time you have on your hands and have to copy my poorer burns. So keep on stalking and talking and bringing shame on your poor, elderly parents who tried their best. I will find you, you fellatio-specialist wimp, and I will make you eat your words--right after your last feces sandwich. You can't hide forever, bitch. _______ Dave, Dave, Dave: you cowardly little tampon. I was actually in that shithole you call home on the weekend but, to nobody's surprise, you didn't show your face. Like your hero Bitchka, you act and talk tough but when push comes to shove you studiously run away and hide. You're a joke. Your little wanker fantasies have moved from insulting to pitifully embarrassing for you. Women like my wife (the kind of beauty that helped you keep your local Kleenex factory doing a roaring business until that inevitable day when a "man" of your advanced years could no longer get it up) actually have nothing to fear from your misogyny because they could easily kick the shit out of your poser facade. Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't swing the way you dream; nevertheless I'm impressed with your encyclopedic knowledge of all matters gay. Embrace your fagg otry: You were born that way and it's nothing to really be ashamed of. Deny your hatred and fear of women all you like; actions (fantasies in your case) speak louder than words. After all, you're the one who referred to his own sister as "quite the slut" to a complete stranger. I'll say it again--your mom must be or have been (whatever story you're using this week) really proud of having brought such an ignorant, fake tuff guy, leeching on society loser into the world. As if Gaycouver didn't have enough problems. So keep on stalking and talking, you massive tub of lard--you can hide all you like but sooner or later you'll have to venture out of your sad den of sodomy and you know what'll happen to you then. Til next time, bitch! ________ Dave you ignorant gay slut...you talk and you stalk and not much else. Despite your tuff guy routine, you failed to show. I never really thought for a minute it'd be otherwise. You're a gutless coward as well as a joke. I don't know (and really don't care to learn) what your poor sister did to earn that insult from you. I can guess though and it probably had something to do with an act that would have got you jailed but for her unwillingness to shame your sad parents even more. So, old gay blade, until the day comes (and it will, just as you fear while you run between the shadows) when you slip up and I get the chance to pound the shyte out of you, keep on prowling the schoolyards and grossing out the little boys. Retribution is a bitch, bitch... __________ DBHOF: OK, that's three times you've ducked the shytekicking you have coming. You're afraid of me, you're afraid of women, and you're just a fat, pathetic coward. I really feel sorry for your parents and sister--they couldn't have done anything so bad in life as to deserve being associated with a chicken bag of shi t like you. You talk tough, but you're just a giant vadge. I will find you in the end, you worthless POS, and I promise I will rip you apart and make you beg for mercy. Until then, keep on stalking and talking, you welfare-collecting bitch... ________ DBHOF--you can duck all you like, but in your heart of hearts you know it'll all come crashing to an end at some point. Your own mom almost sold you out last time, but at the last moment doubled her Judas price to a full case of beer. You ain't worth it, semen-sponge. There is nobody on this site, least of all me, who buys your tough-guy pose. You're as phony in that aspect as your hero Bitchka. And you shouldn't be trying to impress people with stories about your 14 mm dick. That's barely more than half an inch in real-world terms, as your poor alcoholic mother knows from sad experience. So keep stalking and talking, you unoriginal bitch. Those loud thuds you fall asleep to every night are the sound of the boots that will end your fairy-tale existence once and for all. You can't keep running forever, you know... __________ Dbhof: Your pathetic excuse-making and faux tuff-guy pose would be amusing if they weren't so boring. You've now had four opportunities to back up your tough talk and to nobody's surprise you've been unable to drag yourself (nyuk nyuk) out of your fave S&M club to take your thrashing. I do understand that the tips you get for bottoming constitute the biggest part of your income, so I guess you should get some slack cut. And you should lay off f u c k I n g your own mother. It's an offence under the Criminal Code; it's unhealthy for your mental state; and it's unfair to her as it keeps her away from a life of fulfilment with some alcoholic, pissing-on-himself East Hastings junkie. I should say a <different> alcoholic, pissing-on-himself East Hastings junkie, since that's your job description to a T. So keep on stalking and talking, you phony little f a g g o t. I despair of you ever showing up for your beating as you ignore PMs, but I might get lucky. ---------- Dbhof--don't you realize that your disgusting schoolyard-level shots are simply increasing the severity of the humiliating public beating you are going to receive once you slip up in your hiding campaign? No matter; keep stalking and talking, you gay fat slob. It has been pointed out to me that perhaps I should go easier on you. Apparently the trauma of being pimped out as a cum dump in the B.C. Pen by your own father back in the early 70s when you were both there after that unfortunate child-molesting incident has caused issues in the canyons of your mind. You PM me with times and places when I can give you the thrashing you crave? Right. Dude, you are so ducked up and delusional with your fantasies and lies that it's pathetic. Seriously, get help.... ------- Dbhof: get a grip (and I don't mean on your pathetic little dick). Fantasizing about my wife and child (between rape sessions with your mother and sister) is far from "calling out." You will be destroyed publicly because you're too stupid to keep up your hiding campaign. It's just a matter of time and your fat gay ass will be splattered all over the Downtown Eastside. By the way, nice series by your bunch of skating vadges, led by your fantasy f*** and fellow coward Bitchka. God you're a joke. Keep on stalking and talking, you fat fake. ------------- So you got nothing else, bitch? It won't save you. When you fuck up and come out of concealment, I will be Ferland to your Bitchka and publicly humiliate you. And you won't get a Bitchka coward's jump on me either. Count your days, you fat imbecilic tub of lard--retribution is coming. ------------- Dbhof--so you finally crawled out of your jizz-encrusted crack pipe after a month-long crying and j o ing jag after your effeminate heroes led by your favourite girl Bitchka got smoked by a bunch of kids? Good--your pitiful little insults bring a smile to my face. That's a different thing than the goo dripping off your face; gotta admit your old man still produces a good wad even in his 90s to help clear up your 60-year-old-onset acne. The whole world is sick of your tuff-guy pose. Fact is, you're afraid to take your bitch-slapping for your boring insults and have proven it time and again. Your time will come, bitch. Til then, keep on stalking and talking--the latter is the only thing you're remotely talented at (although homosexual johns trawling your Downtown Eastside stroll would probably beg to differ). _________ Dave, you pathetic morbidly obese f a g g o t: I'd have thought you'd had enough of being made a laughing stock after each of our exchanges, but apparently not. So, recognizing that you need some original burns to compensate for your lack of material and general all-round stupidity, I'll oblige. Unfortunately, I couldn't be in the s h I t h o l e-on-the-west-coast last night because I understand you blew your cover (among other things) by making an appearance in the free-admission welfare section at the Canada-Switzerland women's soccer game. I'm told you looked oh-so-fetching in your mascara and with your pink pompoms. Somebody suggested to me that an easy way to track you down during your usual concealment mode would be to simply follow the trail of s h I t leaking from your cowardly and, shall we say, generously expanded rectum. While the guy meant well, he failed to realize that while such a strategy would be a winner in 29 of the NHL cities it wouldn't work in a place like Gaycouver where you are able able to function anonymously amongst the fecal slime trails gracing that dump. Sorry to hear that mom and dad kicked you out of the house after you lost your strap-on and were no longer able to satisfy their octogenarian urges. Probably for the best for all concerned in the long run, and it's nice that the needle exchange/safe shoot-up site you pitched your tarp-and-rope tent next to has wi-fi so we can all continue to laugh at your imbecile-level posts. You really should be out looking for a job now, given the fact you're in the shoulder season between the Vancouver Seniors Gay Alliance pickle ball league (free welfare-recipient division) and the B.C. Paedo Association ringette league (free welfare-recipient division) activities. But why change after all these years, right? Keep on stalking and talking, bitch. Retribution is always at hand for a loser like you, even if we all know you'll try to turtle your way out of it. P.S. Hyphens are your friend. You should seriously consider one of the many free (for welfare recipients) continuing ed punctuation classes available in your area. _________ Dbhof--Christ, are you still alive? Good for a little comic relief I guess, but intelligent people everywhere can't help but feel sorry for a loser like you and worry about the bandwidth you waste in your borderline incoherent diatribes. Your latest dissertation there set a record that many thought would never be broken--over 2000 words and not one original burn or creative thought. All those burns you set in the B.C. Interior this spring and summer don't count; arson is uncool and a criminal offence, as was your frantic whacking off in public at the sight of all those strapping young firefighters. To each his own, I guess. Your mom says hi (in her creaky nonagenarian rasp) as she wheezes in hilarity at the spectacle on DVD highlight reels of your beloved Capukes getting their cowardly, incompetent asses handed to them by a team with an average age of about 20. Unlike you, some things never get old. You sure don't have much to say about that. Anyhoos, keep on stalking and talking, you phoney paedo bitch. You've done a fine job so far of hiding in the weeds to avoid the pummelling coming your way, but it will all come to an end one day and man are you going to hurt (kind of the way your asshole's been aching for these last 60 or 70 years).
Jackman proves that he is a jackoff when it comes to fighting sportsmanship. "O, U R ON THE GROUND WITH REFS BREAKING UP FIGHT? I PUNCH YOU IN FACE, THEN HIDE LIKE A GAZELLE BEHIND THE ZEBRAS."