Other Penalties: Josh Gorges received a holding.
Marchand wins by a nose.
Subban sheds his gear with great dexterity, only to whiff...''like no man has whiffed before''. The resulting scrap features Marchand fighting defensively, while still managing to make the most of his opportunities. Meanwhile, 'Mr. Popularity'' constantly swings about a foot too high, with each of his overly-dramatic, zero-technique, lunge-punches.
2 idiots of the NHL, Barney Rubble and this Hab's whats his face
How the FUCK did this fight get a 5.4??!! Nobody landed anything. Marchand is a TERRIBLE fighter and didn't do anything. Subban just whiffed but he controlled the fight cause he is so big. Awful fight by 2 awful fighters. 2 at the very most.
Draw all the way. I can't tell who are the bigger fight homers on here, Boston fans or Pitt fans. Embarrasing. Neither player lands a damn thing.
Boston homers in full force - this was a nothing fight and a draw. Both these teams have the biggest collection of p*ssies in the league.
I was at the game, these two went into the fight, made everyone believe it was gonna be good, No one wins, Fans lose. Good win though.
Subban may not have won the fight, but the habs won the game. Thanks for taking last from us Boston XD.
two losers in this fight
there are now winners here. subban had more chance of dislocating his own shoulder. however i was hoping for a marchand coma.
Some people can fire off a tweet faster that Subban was punching here. Seriously, he broadcasts his punches so much and gave Marchand so much free time to duck that Marchand got off looking like an Aikido master. A goofy (2) draw.
Just like the idiot slow pitch softball player who adjusts his batting gloves, adjusts his crotch, whips the bat back and forth, spits, then repeats the entire process, who then proceeds to dribble it in front of the plate, this fight was all preamble and no show. Two non fighters try to window dress the performance to cover up their collective lack of pugilistic skills. I respect that they dropped the gloves, as both PK and Brad are renowned yappers, and ya gotta back that shiat up. Draw, rated "meh", with only the slightest edge to Marchand, due less to anything he did, but rather for Subban's glorious missing. Leave the scraps to the guys who get paid to do it, please. For all of our sakes.
Either a whole lot of nothing or as they say in Texas "all sizzle no steak"
how can u say marchand win the fight seriously? Just coz hes black nd he's from montreal that means he lost the fight lmao!!! Marchand didnt give haymakers nobody was down coz of punches seriously guys it was a DRAW
none of them knows to fight, once again, a Boston player running after a Montreal player to fight him because theyre losing... pathetic
I like the old-school start to the fight. Unfortunately, we're watching Subban, who has balance and skills equivalent to a retarded giraffe. This was a long mess of an altercation, not really a fight....
not a bad fight but i didnt enjoy it coz i was afraid they will lose their balance every second and i tried to force them to stay on their feet with my eyes.kinda funny fight though,subban embarrased marchand a little bit when he made him look like stubborn donkey for a couple seconds but he wasnt able to make anything out of it and missed most of his attempts so i call it draw.gave it 4
A lot of swings and misses.
Ok Fight ,but anyway draw.
I think thats the most equipment Ive seen removed in a square off before. A few more minutes and the jock straps might have been removed! And then porn music starts playing! And then Marchand goes for the reach-a-round- on Subban! And then some heavy petting! And then full blown intercourse! And then 5 minutes for SEX! Scarborough represented.
Subban struggles with what I think was one of the players off my son's Atom 5 team.
Draw, nobody landed a many shots, lotta whiffs by Marchand, but Subban had him tied up for most of it.
Funny that Montreal will only fight when they are the bigger man, and more often than not they wont even fight then. Fight someone your own size like Thornton, you pansy. Marchand 5'8", Subban 6' Thornton 6'1"... 4" makes a HUGE difference. Hell, even Chris Kelly has dropped the gloves recently and at 6' even (like Subban) it would have been a much more even match. For all the skill that Subban has, I've lost all respect for him. He's like a soccer forward... always diving to try to draw a call, holding their eye like they've been shot when he got kicked in the shin. Neither one was very good in this fight but Subban was absolutely terrible, completely missing and falling down on his first punch then missing wildly on pretty much every punch. Then again, Marchand could've just sat there and waited for Subban to wear himself out and he might've been just as successful. Draw.
Both players show why they should let others do the fighting for them. Subban goes for the KO and falls down. Mini-Marchand gets raggdolled on a few occasions. Punches from both combatents few and ineffective. Entertaining but that was its only true value....
Ho hum, not like the heavyweights, but, not too bad
Although it wasnt pretty to look at,i appaud both of these guys for putting on a good show! Something the league seems to be missing nowadays. Somewhere O'Reilly,Jonathan,Miller,Byers,etc got a kick out of this one and are laughing thier azzes off! Entertaining draw! Hope for round 2 saturday night.
Clearly a draw... This from a "Hab-hater"/ B's fan...Shoutout to Borisso: I laughed out loud at your take that peeps are "jealous" of montreal's "legacy".. that's like We Americans (a.k.a. by you as toothless hillbillies) being jealous of the legacy of the Roman Empire... get it dickkhead, ANCIENT HISTORY!! The Habs, sadly are irrelevant, and have no chance of being relevant with their present lineup. I know its a bitter pill Bo, bu be a good boy and SWALLOW IT!! and wtf r u doing on a hockey fight site as a Habs fan anyway??!
The homer-ism on this site is infuriating. How can you honestly score this a Marchand win just because he is a smaller guy? This is the guy lips bigger guys and swings his stick game in and game out, so he gets no respect for actually dropping the gloves (as Lapierre doesn't either). Dodging punches and getting ragdoll-ed gets you a draw at best. PK definitely didn't win the fight either, but Marchand win - seriously?
I love that shit. Good fight 7
One of the most entertaining and unintentionally funny fights ever. These guys tried to fight twice before this but weren't able to...Comical...
Not a fan of either team ,,Win Marchand,,,Subban = Joke .
sUBBAN just grabbed jersey and wrestled, at least Marchand tried to fight even though Subban was holding on for dear life. crap crap crap fight. Middle school girls fight better
If you can't hit that nose of Marchand,got give the loss to Subban.
I replayed the Subban first miss about 20 times, he landed face first into the ice! What an idiot. He is lucky Nathan Horton never got a piece of him last year, it would have been a beating.
Subban must think his lot in life is to provide a good reason to ban fighting from hockey -VERY EM "BARE A#$" ing! I think a special category should be made to quarantine stuff this inept - maybe the sick sense of humor category? And fernben8 is dead on with the Parros thing.
Marchand wins cause at least he didnt make himself look like a retard on skates. Brad cant fight at all but if he can just learn hbow to punch we may have something here. The way he dodges hits during play and the way he doges punches he has good reflexes.
Subban Sucks at fighting. Gotta give this one to Marchand. He had more punches connect. He also looked more comfortable.
Wow, more misses than hits! Marchant landed a few better punches, so gotta give him the nod...
i didnt have to watch the fight to know marchand won but was suprissed at how subban was able to not get pummled into the ice. ill give subban this much he didnt get a true ass whooping but had to tie marchand up with his jersey to keep from it and yet marchand still got a few good ones in
what a goober Subban is. he looks like he is doing a terrible imitation Mohamed Ali on the wind up. Marchand wins because he didnt look like a complete dub, other than that, it would have been a draw. i'm not sure if i should laugh, or cry...........
Subban kept going for haymakers and missing. Marchand had the better of the punches that landed and stayed on his feet and kept his ground. Subban couldn't wrestle him down or connect therefore Marchand gets it based on the scorecard.
Subban is a complete embarrassment to all of hockey. Seems that the Habs since Houle was GM up until now find their best value in losers. I won't compile a list it would take too long. And once again habs enter a new season without a bonafide enforcer. Great job losers.
Subban regularly gets challenged by just about everyone in Boston's lineup and he picks the guy from the lollipop guild.
hey Borisso, the reason why it seems as though there are so many "Hab haters" on this site(and it isnt just Bruins fans) is we all cant just sit here quietly and read your pompous bs pumping up the likes of Subban. He clearly doesnt win this "fight", you actually have to land a punch for that consideration. As for Marchand, yep, he is that classic annoying, mouthy, pest of a player, yeah, he can actually play too, but you dont ever see him running from anyone either. One more [email protected] Sen-Dog, do yourself a favor and stop posting in here. You only embarrass yourself and bring shame to your family with rants like that. "Most of person who gave the fight to Marchand are juste Subban's haters. But if PK was in their them, these sucker would be like '' Oh my god, PK is a god! '' Really Sen-Dog, really??? LOL!!!
the only ones that landed came from marchand. subban made a fool out of himself. none of his came within a foot of the marchand. marchand has to win subban will never bruise his knuckles
Subban consistently missing by at least 18 inches has gotta be the funniest thing I've ever seen, what a dork
i wish "lol" was an option for how good was the fight. i dont understand habs fans complaining about bruins homers and then saying PK won this fight. by my count they each landed 2 or 3, hard to tell subban all show, no results desperately tried to get the takedown on the smaller opponent and couldnt. if i had to pick a winner i'd say marchand for landing more (like 3 vs subban's 2 by my count), dodging those useless haymakers, and staying on his feet (something subban clearly has trouble doing while fighting) if you think subban connected more, did more damage, or "rag-dolled" marchand, you're dillusional.
Subban must really be embarrassed ..... the smallest man on the ice with the biggest nose on the ice, and he wiffed his way into a spanking. Marchand, as usual manned-up. I like Canada if for no other reason, they supply Boston with some really good players ...
basicaly Marchand won
looked like Marchand was giving Subban a blowjob at one point during the fight. Kind of got a laugh out of that
Subban missed more than he landed. Solid fight.
Good showing by Marchand beating the much bigger punk Subban.
Too funny. Subban swings for the fence only to embarass himself to no end. I think old "huggie Bear" taught Subban how to fight. Grab grab grab................blah blah blah.
Subban Must Have Thought He Was Fighting Chara. I Mean Marchand Wouldn't Look Out Of Place On An Episode Of Little People Big World.
Subban is a bum. He's even shitty at trying to be a showman. That's what happens when you've got zero game. That's why Subban declines any fight invites from guys his size...................he knows that he can't fight. Hats off to Marchand for backing up his big mouth.
WTF was that? I have seen better punching from the WWE.....women. SUBBAN SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
Is there a more overrated defenseman in the league than Suban? (Letang, Gill, ok . . that doesn't play for The Hens)
Kudos to Marchand for Not Pounding PK when he Failed to Stay on his Feet after Missing the first of Many Missed attempts to Punch, and trying to Dive to get out of a Fight he picked with a Much Smaller bruin in the first place...
marchand gets the win in this fight.
Pretty funny watching Marchand get the best 4 punches in, I guess Marchand would have murderd the Sedin girls
First let me say that PK Subban is a GREAT young hockey player. I dont like the way he plays the game but he is very talented young player. That being said, he is a punk. He shies away from just about every fight chance he gets, but them decides to throw down with Marchand? Seriously, he is like 3 inches and 30 pounds heavier. Marchand is a midget. Close fight though.
I thought PK TKO'd himself to start the fight... Regardless, awesome to see these guys drop the gloves, but it was a draw.
Subban is such a pussy. Has 3 inches and 30 lbs over Marchand. Won't drop the gloves with Lucic or Horton and now we see why. Marchand with the win
Lot of jealous canadien Douche-bags on this site. Subby may be the best fighter on that team of wossies. Pretty sad he has to look for a guy 4'' and 25 lbs smaller than him and still lose the fight. HAAAAAAAHa
Did Subban ever land one? I didn't see it if he did.
Subban couldnt fight his way out of a paperbag.
Marchand was the only guy really landing any direct shots to the face. Subban landed only about one, it was somewhat obscured/off camera. The rest were huge sloppy swings and misses. Marchand did a great job slipping and ducking the punches, its tough to commit to that kind of movement on the Ice. Subbans "jersey tugs" on Marchand may look good, but do they do anything to injure Marchand or win him the fight? Absolutely not. The point of any fight is to injure your opponent, and Marchand obviously landed better shots. Not an amazing fight, but still entertaining nonetheless. Slight edge goes to Marchand due to more clean hits landed...
Attempt 3 proves a charm for Marchand, who handled Subban well. LOL so fuc*in hard when Subban whiffed atrociously in the beginning.
This "fight" was hilarious! You gotta appreciate it whether you're a Habs or B's fan! Habs fans hate Marchand and B's fans hate Subban so it was perfect. Subban tried to murder Marchand and looked foolish and Marchand looked foolish because he couldn't really capitalize on Subban's total inability to fight at all. lol I can't wait to see Saturday's game. I love the jealousy on here by some, not all, habs fans because the B's are the defending champs. Lol it's a nice change of pace. I'm intrigued to see if any Montreal player will EVER step up and fight Thornton, Lucic or McQuaid! Hahaha they'd get mudered.
Marchand with the W despite a severe height and weight disadvantage
Damn PK with 3 clear swings and misses... this whole "fight" makes me lmao.. I agree that marchand wins by a nose.
P K is too much, the king of the sucker punch and the whiff, I love how Marchand easily ducked his round house shots and then would pop him. Marchand with the win... montreal sucks or as they would spell it: Suques
subban cant fight worth shat.
MONTREAL WIN THE FIGHT AND THE GAME..... draw for the punch and subban shake marchand look a barbie
Good little tussle.Little because Marchand was fighting.He does pretty well and gets the knodd in this one!
Marchand with a win in a sloppy fight. I can see why Subban won't fight Lucic, Horton, or Thornton. Just awful.
Well...that was entertaining, Yes, Subban "Went for the homerun"...but he also tripped at home plate, I said it before,Subban has balance issues when he fights, he can make George Parros look good. He also doesn't help his cause when he telegraphs his wild right coming from a mile away. Have to give the edge to Marchand for landing the better punches. Montreal needs to bring Shultz up from the minors. Enough is enough already.
Marchand defends himself. Subban knows Marchand is their pest and wants to KO him so badly he ends up losing the fight. Nice showing Brad!
Subban looks as coordinated as a muppet in his debut in WWE On Ice.
Nice to see these two go .Too bad neither can fight .
Hilarious watching Subban, could he have picked a smaller Bruin to fight. marchand just makes him look silly. Subban no good blows many whiffs, and Marchand is able to sneak in a couple hits, given the height reach advantage of subban, this is just pathetic. still entertaining.
Marchand is not a fighter AND it was still a win for him over that lawn ornament (all he needs is a lantern in his hand for a career after hockey). DO I hate Subban? I am not sure; but guys like him and Byfuglien really get under my skin. They do not fight the real fighters like Orr, Shelly, Engelland, etc. and until they do, I will view them through jaded vision.
Very smart fight by Marchand. Waited for his chances, made the other miss, and landed some bombs.
entertaining, but as powerful as subban is, he's wildly unrefined. the same can be said for his game
i liked the way marchand let him up so the fight could get started and i give him the win cos he got better punches
subban is a punk, tell him to fight chara
HAHAHAHAHAAHAH! Subban took himself to the ice!
In spite of the score, this fight definitely made the night a victory for the B's.
gotta love the mutual respect at least, little tap at the end and visors off.
Rat Boy, YEH!. Suban can't fight either!
subban playing with Marchand,winner subban
Subban was more aggressive Marchand was holding on trying not to get hit. Bravo Subban you showed some grit last night.
I would like to see this fight again now in 2015
This fight was bad from the beginning. From the comments you retards judge the person fighting not the fight itself. This is a draw at best.
Subban needs to control his swings and Marchand should consider himself lucky
you are retarded if you voted for marchand. so many bruins nuthuggers dont even watch the fight
Subban fails at first, but gets back up to beat Marchand in this unlikely scrap.
Subban... how can you miss that nose! Im surprised Marchant didn't make the "The belt" move on the way to the box... what a moron.
Why do people keep picking on subban? It's nt like marchand is better. He's a pest and almost never backs up his big mouth with brawl action. for once in 20 years there's an exciting rookie with the habs, people gotta start with the hating... So many Habs haters on this site it's almost like reading the Boston Globe. I guess thats what happens when people get jealous of the greatest legacy in the sport's history. Dont get me wrong, the habs have been sh*t for the past almost-20 years, but it's so childish to bash a team just because you are jealous of them or you're just because you are at the bottom of the cultural ladder and hate a country for no reason... typical of the kind of retarded, toothless hillbillies you find on this site. bad fight, subban with the win for showing more energy then marchand
It was about time brat marchand gets smack around a bit, since that open ice hit pk landed on marchand that idiot being a pest wit him.
P.K. Man handled him
What did PK do that has him on everyone's "Hate" list? The guy gets more boos than Sean Avery! As for the fight, Marchand is a tough nut for a smaller player, but he spent most of his time avoiding PK's shots. Who won? I'd ask Marchand. He's the one that calls it over at the end. PK's not a fighter, he's a skilled player that everyone wants to target.
No contest, Subban beat Marchand in every facet of the fight. Not sure what the Bruin homers were watching, must have spent too many years listening to the idiot on NESN.
I gotta go with Subban.....minus the theatrics, but Marchand came on strong at the end with a couple of good shots. Subban early, Marchand late. Good to see them go at it.
That could be the fight of the year for all the wrong reasons! It was entertaining though.
Draw.... can't stand with all the jerk's . Subban is a great player and he's gonna be one for a long time. So kiss my ass bruins fans. By the way im not a habs fans.
PK needs boxing lessons but marchand was a rag doll
Subban had a lot of misses but he still had more hits than Marchand.
Marchand was like a marionette!! Next time, if Subban can find the way to hit his opponent...Marchand is gonna cry to his mother!!
Subban "Went for the homerun"...but he also tripped at home plate
Easy win by Subban ....except for the trip he dominate landing grappling shot !!!
Marchand didn't know what to do, so he did nothing!
Sorry Boston fans but surprising win for Subban
Subban got the edge he seemed more desire to fight ..although he missed with his shots ...and i like the player as well ...
Stumblebum vs Rat Boy with predictable results gave the fight a 6 for comedy, both guys are rated a 2 and Boston fans should shut up and figure a way out of the basement....oh and gave the fight to Subban since it was actually a funny draw yet all the Bruins fans voted for Rat Boy
Subban landed the best ones in a tight very light weight affair.
Missed it by that much, subban had marchand in a figure 4 headlock for most of the bout but managed to get a few good whacks in. Marchand hung on just long enough to get a couple of good shots but not enough to tame that crazy letter combination. PK and a 6 on energy alone
PK is not a fighter and Marchand was on him the whole game. I think Brad got a little more respect for PK now.
Most of person who gave the fight to Marchand are juste Subban's haters. But if PK was in their them, these sucker would be like '' Oh my god, PK is a god! ''
Subban easy decision. Open your eyes. only credit Miss Marchand gets is for reacting to avoid the ko and letting subban fall at the start. If u think any different clearly you are (due to some unfortunate birth mutation or horrible upbringing) a pig headed boston fan. and without a doubt love the patriots, celtics and red sox as well? hmmm
Subban wins Damn Canadiens need some toughness
Man actually a good fight slight edge to Subban.
Can anyone say ragdoll?! P.K. does whatever he wants to Marchand
subban wins by virtue of rag-dolling marchand all fight long
Great job by both guys! Subban landed more. Boy wouldn't everybody like to have both those guys! It was also good not to hear the fight called that Boston idiot announcer.
Personally Habs fans must anticipate the dumb Bruins fans to vote for the bitch himself Brad Marchand. However the truth is it was a close fight but Subban came away with the slight victory.
absolutely despise both players...hoping for a dbl knockout...poop fight
what a cat fight. I gave it a 1 and a draw. Girls night out.
Oh, man, Subban had sooo many misses. wow.
Wow, possibly the most untalented fighters in the league. I have the impression P.K. Subban has several puddles of urine on the floor around his toilet.
two obvious non fighters..yawn
Intially I thought Subban- but I felt like Marchand did enough at the end to get the draw.
Draw !!!! There is no winner in that.
It's a draw over all, not very much connecting. If P.K learns how to land one of those wild blows whoever he is fighting is going to be in trouble.
Subban fights a smaller opponent and cant even land a decent punch. He obviously doesnt even know how to fight. Marchand wins
Haven't seen a swing and a miss like that since Boulerice v. Downy, I gotta give it a draw though i wish there would have been a double knock out
There is Subban again. Won't fight unless its a 'smaller' opponent. At least this time, he didn't wait for the linesman to tie him up before 'trying' to fight by dropping his gloves. He's just a little bitch who thinks he's the greatest. He's hated all over the league, and I'm waiting for someone to take the extra two minutes and misconduct in order to take him out. I pray for that day like little girls dream of their wedding.
Subban is a joke. he showed it again here.
That was half funny, half ugly -- but not much of a fight. Marchand, mainly because he did not showboat and fall down when he missed with wild punches
Lots of swing & misses and tugging. Give the edge to Marchand just for the simple fact that I'm a proud member of the "I hate P.K. Subban" group on facebook.
After perhaps the most spectacular fail I've ever witnessed, made all the better by the way Subban was holding his hands at his hips like he was Ali about to wind up for a haymaker, we see both of these guys aren't too good at fighting, but I'll give the edge to Marchand, I think he landed a few more.
love the set-up. these two have been at it for a long time subban is a p*ssy. PK swung for the fences and missed by a mile
Subban is an Idiot 1. He can't fight 2. He makes a big show outa fighting ,Throws punches to send a guy to the moon not landing any and then when He can throw shots that could probably land He just shakes the dude!!!! Lmfao Subban didn't win a dam thing!!! He took shots and didnt land a frigging thing !!!! Just cause he shoulda won this fight doesn't mean he did He's PATHETIC
Marchand gives up about 25 pounds and 3 inches in height to Subban. That being said, Subban looked like a drunk , from the wild punches taking himself down to the ice to the repetitive attempt to either get a headlock or get Marchand's pads over his head. Marchand made his mistakes however, as he did not capitalize on Subban taking himself to the ice. But, given the size difference and the fact that Subban looked more interested in making it a wrestling match rather than a hockey fight, I give Marchand the win. Maybe this fight explains why Subban runs away from Thornton though I'd give him a pass for running from Lucic, and McQuaid based upon their size advantage.
everything i hate about subban on display here. of course he takes on the MUCH smaller marchand and does nothing, for all his blathering and posturing. big air punches get you nothing. what disturbs me is no bruins went after him later. lucic needs to step up and challenge subban, not that marchand can't handle himself...but the team unity is not there this year. and subban wouldn't fight lucic because he knows he would wake up in the hospital. what i want to know is how will the city of montreal try to bring up charges against marchand for this fight??
Behn Wilson sums it up perfectly.
Good close tilt, Edge marchand for landing more. Gave it a 7 based on the hype of this bout, i mean, come on how long have we been waiting for this?
Marchand with the easy win, Montreal is Boston's bitch.
Wow, Marchand is a puzzy
Pretty much even, not much landed, Subban gets an extra point for ragdolling Marchand some.
if you were watching this game you kinda knew this was gonna happen
How could anybody vote Marchand for the win?
Pk wins, the rat Marchand lucky the hail mary punch didn't land. poor Marchy had to stand up and not hide behind Chara skirt as usual.
I really don't get how Subban lost. Bunch of delusional Bruins fans. Not domination, but edge to Subban.
Bruins fans are such a joke. How can you give this one to Marchand ??? I really think that they give the victory to their guys before watching the fights Subban landed 8 Marchand landed 6, dominated all fight long... 15th place team...
I didn't even have to see this fight to know how the voting would be in favour of the bruin. I CALLED IT A DRAW BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS . NO LANDED PUNCHES AND A LOT OF DANCING AND SWING AND MISSES BY BOTH PLAYERS. BY VIRTUE OF THE WAY SUBBAN EASILY RAGDOLLED MARCHAND IF ANYTHING HE SHOULD GET THE WIN. BUT LET'S FACE IT ON THIS SITE THE BRUINS SCORE AT LEAST A DRAW EVEN IF THEY WERE TO BE KNOCKED OUT. A FEW FACTS..... 1) Subban is not a fighter.....when you see classless pukes like the fading Thornton running him all night .....well why bother.... Julien should dress someone who can score instead because Montreal won't fight because they have no fighters.Thorton is a waste of a spot. 2) Bruins and in particular Horton, Lucic and cement head Chara should stick to playing hockey instead of the stupid bull$hit ..punching and crosschecks they were throwing at the end of the game. Maybe they could have tied it up. 3) Bruins didn't score on Price... they got a gift from Plekanec when he drew it back to his own net. ONCE AGAIN THIS FIGHT WAS A DRAW. IT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT BRUINS AND THEIR DILLUSIONAL SUPPORTERS ARE ALL ABOUT. Julien should keep sending his goons after our marquee players they'll take their stupid penalties and we'll win the games. MEAN WHILE.......STUPID BOSTON FANS CAN CONTINUALLY LIE TO THEMSELVES ABOUT ALL THE IMAGINERY WINS IN FIGHTING THEY GET................PATHETIC.......L.O.L.