Official Nucklehead 2011-12 season thread w/sked

[GIANTSFAN]

I disagree, I don't think Marchand has a lot of baggage. Yes, he's done a few things bordering on dirty, but he also speed bagged Sedin & held the Cup. Not many players in the league can boast about having done both in the same year. Canuckfan, you can hate him all you want, but I actually respect the guy because he did what so many guys haven't done & got away with it & rubbed it in the Canuck fans/management/players faces. The guy has a ton of skill, & every team in the NHL with the exception of the Canucks would take Marchand over Burrows in a heartbeat. Burrows scored a clutch goal vs the Hawks, but didn't do almost anything the rest of the playoffs, whereas, Marchand was dominant in a couple games in the Finals & has a ring to prove it.

Instead of being pissed off at Marchand, you should direct your anger towards the Canucks management for not having anyone to protect their players. They are ultimately to blame, & no, my most hated Canuck will remain Bieksa, king of the spotpickers, a douche bag & a joke. He has yet to challenge Clowe, who called him out. I guess he's waiting to fight Marleau again. The guy is so gutless & a clown. He deserves a severe assskickin'.

[canuckfan]

Originally Posted by GIANTSFAN

Yes, he's done a few things bordering on dirty, but he also speed bagged Sedin & held the Cup. Not many players in the league can boast about having done both in the same year. Canuckfan, you can hate him all you want, but I actually respect the guy because he did what so many guys haven't done & got away with it & rubbed it in the Canuck fans/management/players faces.

Marchand hasn't done a lot of things bordering on dirty - it's all been dirty period. The guy is a used tampon.

I honestly think that the above in bold type is the only reason why you like him so damn much...everything you rail against regarding the new NHL, Marchand epitomizes in so many ways. But I guess being a big part of a Cup winning team kind of neutralizes all that, doesn't it?

We'll have to agree to disagree on all the rest. But I would like to point out that Burrows did have a big game in game 2 of the finals including the OT winner, and set the tone of how nasty the finals was going to be with the biting incident, so he did have moments after game 7 of the Hawks series. And I do agree with Hordi, he does seem to be more purely skilled than Burrows, but I still think in the overall picture, esp where discipline is concerned, many teams would still take Burrows over Marchand at this point in time.

[Canuck22]

Originally Posted by GIANTSFAN

I disagree, I don't think Marchand has a lot of baggage. Yes, he's done a few things bordering on dirty, but he also speed bagged Sedin & held the Cup. Not many players in the league can boast about having done both in the same year. Canuckfan, you can hate him all you want, but I actually respect the guy because he did what so many guys haven't done & got away with it & rubbed it in the Canuck fans/management/players faces. The guy has a ton of skill, & every team in the NHL with the exception of the Canucks would take Marchand over Burrows in a heartbeat. Burrows scored a clutch goal vs the Hawks, but didn't do almost anything the rest of the playoffs, whereas, Marchand was dominant in a couple games in the Finals & has a ring to prove it.

Instead of being pissed off at Marchand, you should direct your anger towards the Canucks management for not having anyone to protect their players. They are ultimately to blame, & no, my most hated Canuck will remain Bieksa, king of the spotpickers, a douche bag & a joke. He has yet to challenge Clowe, who called him out. I guess he's waiting to fight Marleau again. The guy is so gutless & a clown. He deserves a severe assskickin'.

You respect a rat, you just lost credibility (did you have it in the first place?) and anything you write is usually regurgitation of the same stuff over and over again. Maybe, just maybe GF, it's time for you to take a break, you bring nothing to the discussion but hatred, it's quite sad really.

[FurnaceFace]

i love this alexandre burrows vs brad marchand comparision...

the more and more i think about it,check the stats, i have to agree with everyone on marchand being that much better than burrows.

[GIANTSFAN]

Originally Posted by Canuck22

You respect a rat, you just lost credibility (did you have it in the first place?) and anything you write is usually regurgitation of the same stuff over and over again. Maybe, just maybe GF, it's time for you to take a break, you bring nothing to the discussion but hatred, it's quite sad really.

I don't give a sh*t if you think I have or don't have credibility because you are a nobody.

Canuckfan, I told you I liked Marchand when he played in the WJC. That is when I noticed the guy. The fact that he speedbagged Sedin is just sweet. Honestly, I am so glad he rubbed it in because the Canuck players & management is sooo fukin' arrogant it was great to see. I loved it & hope he does it again & again.

[FurnaceFace]

i have to agree with you GF. there is lack of real team with our nucks. daniel got punched in the face countless times and nothing has since come of it. which tells me its ok to do that to any of our players.. and star players. i for one, am not willing to accept that a team would let that happen to a fellow teammate. and am choked that the higher ups support the current team we have. Sami salo is now out because we let shyte happen.. so who needs to get hurt before we make some changes around here. i'll take the 8th playoff spot over 1st , to have a team that respects one another, has heart and emotion an overall good balance. i've said before i'll take the 94 team over the one today everyday of the week.

[GIANTSFAN]

A Pat Quinn ('94) or Harry Neale ('82) team would NEVER let that sh*t happen to any of their players, playoffs or not. Hell, if anything, they'd be the guy doing it not allowing it because they were scared. Though Burke's teams never got to the Finals, he'd never allow that to happen to one of his players. Gillis, Vigneault have no balls. Nothing but whiners.

[FurnaceFace]

tony gallagher was wondering why the canucks are hated so much... thats why ..

on a side note am i alone on lets get manny outta vancouver... minus player who seems to be getting worse since he left with his eye injury. plus what really does he bring anymore? face offs ? don't think so.

[FurnaceFace]

also someone should tell tony , team with lots of toughguys werent hated around the league.... teams hate playing them cause they new they were in for a rough night.

[canuckfan]

Maybe Cory Schneider will eventually be used to help gain some more muscle or toughness up front. It might be tough to secure a decent top 6 or even 9 forward for just a goalie, but its obvious to me Cory is one of the better backups out there and is more than ready to be a starter - he's pretty much the reason why we beat Boston and Tampa this week.

Unfortunately - Tampa may be the team most desperate for a young goalie like Schneider, but they have less toughness than the Canucks....

[FurnaceFace]

im thinking cory is the future in net for the nucks. more poise in net than lou. overall i think moving cory would be a bad move. its good lou is getting better, but so is shnids as you said.

trading picks is the nucks best move i think, or waiver wire, or guys in the A for other guys in the A. chicago wolves kinda look the same as the nucks.. loaded with little guys as matt clackson as the leading fighter. who'd id take over dale weise ...

why oh why does vancouver have guys who arent anywhere near heavyweights and call them that... jeff cowan.. dale weise... tanner glass... aaron volpatti whos next bryon bitz???

[GIANTSFAN]

They had Hordichuk, Rypien, Glass, O'Brien & Davison all on the team at one time, & I don't recall the Canucks being run out of a building or scared like they are today. Hell, they even had Bieksa, who Paul Chapman of the Province mentioned, Bieksa will fight anyone, anytime. Yeah right, this is another reason why Vancouver is hated, because of the douche bags on the radio who think what they say is gospel. It's atrocious to hear the garbage that they spew daily. Honestly, the Canucks have maybe the most homer hosts in the NHL. They remind me of Peacemaker, who builds a guy up like an allstar when they are on the Canucks, then rips them apart when they are traded or waived.

Gillis went the way of Detroit, but what he didn't know is that Detroit has gritty guys & not spotpickers, biters & whiners.

[Canuck22]

Originally Posted by GIANTSFAN

I don't give a sh*t if you think I have or don't have credibility because you are a nobody.

I'm a nobody on a hockey fight site...gosh darn, life is over. But you are a somebody on here, someone that continues to spew the same ****e over and over again without anything new. Why? Maybe you have no life? Maybe this site is your life...you certainly are something.

Even if the Canucks were to get Carkner and MacIntyre you would be on here spouting how Bieksa is a spotpicker and Burrows bites and whatever you want to regurgitate. Snore...snore...

[canuckfan]

Well, on a more positive note, congrats to Edler on getting to his first All Star game - and although it was more of an obvious choice, Hodgson going to the Young Stars game or whatever it is, thats pretty special too. CoHo very quietly putting together a very solid first season with limited minutes, looking better after every game.

Not a bad way to wrap up the road trip - kind of strange to see Oshie run to the bench for a stick on a 4/3 PP, good to see the Canucks capitalize on that. The first half of the second period was all Blues, I thought we were going to see a replay of the Panthers game or a tired team pack it in for the second half, but the Canucks slowly came on on with a good push back and got back into it - thought it was more even than the shot total showed.

Luongo let in an absolutley stinker of an ugly goal in the second too. Figured he was due for a brutal, but that was ugly! At least it didn't cost us the game. 3/4 for the road trip, not bad at all.

[canuckfan]

Well, that was certainly a crappy game - think the Canucks had 5 shots in total at the end of the second period there. I know the Ducks have played better of late, but still, it was hard to tell if the boys even had a pulse going tonight - maybe its the effect of the busy schedule, but they haven't played well at all since the Boston game, the Sedins especially. I think the Canucks play only 4 times for the rest of January, and they're at home for the next 6 - but against the top teams in the west, so some rest and more time at home couldn't come soon enough