Official 2012-2013 Thread

[rock'emsock'em]

Interesting on Rielly but good for him and good to hear if he is having an impressive camp. We will see how he does I suppose in what I assume will be limited exposure.

[grits207]

I can live with Rielly getting in a couple games but I really think they need to let him play out the season in the WHL. Keeping 18 year old dmen in the NHL is almost always bad for their development and the Leafs can't afford to f*ck up like they did with Schenn.

[I_am_Belak_2]

Originally Posted by Cat Smasher

Link

The blog from the official Leafs site had these lines:

Phil Kessel- Tyler Bozak-Joffrey Lupul
Clarke MacArthur-Mikhail Grabovski-Nikolai Kulemin
Leo Komarov-Nazem Kadri-James van Riemsdyk
Mike Brown-Jay McClement-Colton Orr

David Steckel and Matt Frattin were the extra forwards.

[leafs_fan77]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

The blog from the official Leafs site had these lines:

Phil Kessel- Tyler Bozak-Joffrey Lupul
Clarke MacArthur-Mikhail Grabovski-Nikolai Kulemin
Leo Komarov-Nazem Kadri-James van Riemsdyk
Mike Brown-Jay McClement-Colton Orr

David Steckel and Matt Frattin were the extra forwards.

Let me pray that those are the correct lines.

[grits207]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

The blog from the official Leafs site had these lines:

Phil Kessel- Tyler Bozak-Joffrey Lupul
Clarke MacArthur-Mikhail Grabovski-Nikolai Kulemin
Leo Komarov-Nazem Kadri-James van Riemsdyk
Mike Brown-Jay McClement-Colton Orr

David Steckel and Matt Frattin were the extra forwards.

I'd rather have JVR on the 2nd line than MacArthur but other than that I'd be happy with that lineup.

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Those 3rd and 4th lines don't work for me. No way does Leo Komarov play on the 3rd line over Matt Frattin. Nope. Not a chance.

Also, I don't at all like the idea of not having Dave Steckel in the lineup. The guy is money in the faceoff dot. Having your 4th line start the play with the puck is huge, especially on the road. You don't want them getting caught out there on a line mis-match, and then having other team gain puck possession and run them around. With Steckel out there it gives them a chance to win the draw and then make a quick line change. It makes a big difference because you can use the 4th line more knowing you can get them off the ice in a hurry if you need to.

I'd like to see,

Kessel - Bozak - Lupul
MacArthur - Grabo - Kulemin
Frattin - Kadri - Van Riemsdyk
Brown - Steckel - Orr

McClement - Komarov

I'm still not sure about Orr. I hope to hell he's there, but I think Komarov and McClement are going to see more action.

Come on Randy. DON'T F*CK THIS UP.

[leafs_fan77]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

I love the enthusiasm, but if you guys really think Colton Orr has a job over Matt Frattin you need to message me your heroin dealer's number.

I don't know what your love for Frattin is all about, he really hasn't done much with the big club to prove his worth. He got cut today I'm hearing, so welcome back to the team Colton.

[grits207]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

I'd like to see,

Kessel - Bozak - Lupul
MacArthur - Grabo - Kulemin
Frattin - Kadri - Van Riemsdyk
Brown - Steckel - Orr

McClement - Komarov

I'm still not sure about Orr. I hope to hell he's there, but I think Komarov and McClement are going to see more action.

I'd like to have McClement and Steckel both in the lineup but if it's one or the other I'd rather have McClement. He may not be quite as good at faceoffs but he is a lot better defensively.

I agree on Orr. Even with his improved skating he will still spend a lot of time in the press box. I'm guessing when they play against teams that don't have anybody for Orr to fight they will go with a bottom 6 along the lines of this:

Kadri - McClement - Van Riemsdyk
Brown - Steckel - Komarov

[Cat Smasher]

Frattin and Connolly and Reily sent down for final cuts, nice. Orr makes it.

[I_am_Belak_2]

Fraser and Kostka stay up too, as the 7th and 8th d-men.

I can't wait to see Komarov play. Some are saying he's like a Russian Darcy Tucker?

Randy Carlyle: "Players need to be comfortable. Orr brings protection."

[grits207]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

I can't wait to see Komarov play. Some are saying he's like a Russian Darcy Tucker?

Probably closer to Jarkko Ruutu than Darcy Tucker. He'll undoubtedly be hated on here because he's dirty and usually refuses to fight but he will at the very least make Leafs games more entertaining.

I know he's played center in the past so a line of Brown/Komarov/Orr could be a fun possibility at some point this season.

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by leafs_fan77

I don't know what your love for Frattin is all about, he really hasn't done much with the big club to prove his worth. He got cut today I'm hearing, so welcome back to the team Colton.

Awesome how you wait until after he's sent down to respond to that post. Good for you.

But wait a minute?

What has Leo Komarov done with the big club to prove his worth? In fact, what has Komarov done with the Marlies to prove his worth?

I watched Frattin score 8 goals with the Leafs last year while playing mostly on the 4th line. Then he got sent down to Marlies when the season was over and tore it up with 14 goals in 23 games. How's he done this year? 9 goals in 20 games. Only on pace for 40? Yeah he sure needs more work down there.

How about Komarov? What's he been up to this year? He's got 2 goals playing in the KHL. Well stop the f*cking press and give him a spot on the big club because clearly he's earned it.

Are you kidding me?

Frattin is a 6'4" 225 pound goal scorer with speed. He spent time in the A and has been a hell of a player. He's spent time in the NHL and didn't look out of place, even though he was out of place because he spent a lot of time on the 4th line with no offensive potential/help. Playing with Kadri and Van Riemsdyk on the 3rd line gives him hella more opportunity to put up some numbers. He's shown that he's capable, so why not let him?

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by grits207

Probably closer to Jarkko Ruutu than Darcy Tucker. He'll undoubtedly be hated on here because he's dirty and usually refuses to fight but he will at the very least make Leafs games more entertaining.

I know he's played center in the past so a line of Brown/Komarov/Orr could be a fun possibility at some point this season.

He plays a certain way in the KHL in Russia where there is essentially no physicality at all, and you think that automatically translates to the same game here in North America?

I hope I'm wrong, but I'll leave you with the name Jonas Frogren. Remember him? He was a "tank" over in Europe too. Was drawing plenty of comparisons to Dmitri Yushkevich. Then he landed on North American soil where people play the game a little differently. His physical style turned non-existent, and he was gone within a year.

[grits207]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

He plays a certain way in the KHL in Russia where there is essentially no physicality at all, and you think that automatically translates to the same game here in North America?

No, I certainly don't think it automatically translates to North America but he played the same style in the AHL and looked great. He was good defensively, chipped in with the odd goal and more importantly he threw a bunch of hits and was constantly getting under the other team's skin. Obviously there is still no guarantee he will be as effective in the NHL but if Carlyle wants an agitator he's our best bet.

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

How about Komarov? What's he been up to this year? He's got 2 goals playing in the KHL. Well stop the f*cking press and give him a spot on the big club because clearly he's earned it.

He was playing on a line with Backstrom and Ovechkin, I highly doubt he was getting to shoot the puck much.

[I_am_Belak_2]

Scrivens to start in goal tonight. Interesting.