Vent Thread

[HardHitt3n]

Originally Posted by thekidd21

why slater? hes fought twice in the AHL, thats it.

better team guy, better player. Handles himself better with gloves off. rinaldo is a better checker, but i wouldt still take slater

[thekidd21]

Originally Posted by HardHitt3n

better team guy, better player. Handles himself better with gloves off. rinaldo is a better checker, but i wouldt still take slater

and u found all this out about slater in the few games hes played for the phantoms?

[HardHitt3n]

Originally Posted by thekidd21

and u found all this out about slater in the few games hes played for the phantoms?

my ? to you is why do you love rinaldo so much outside of the checking? I like rinaldo i just think we have better suited players for that role thats all

[Phillyfan11]

The Kidd...Rinaldo even went as far as insinuating on the Flyers website that he's giving up fighting. He's so worried about his image. That's 2 guys careers getting destroyed in Philly bc of Lavi/idiot fans whining about playing with energy. (Other being Carcillo bc he did the same exact thing).

Zac said, basically in order for him to be in the show he had to cut fighting out completely. Seems obvious to me. In fact, if you watched any Phantoms hockey this year, he never ONCE defended a teammate for a hit. I don't recall him doing that last year at all either. It's all about Zac out there. They're down 2-0 to the Pens and he's not even looking for Tanner Glass or Craig Adams...you've gotta be kidding me. Who's the Flyer looking to fire the team up? Simmonds challenging a much much tougher Engelland.

Until Zac proves he hasn't forgotten what's gotten him to the show and stops worrying about his "image" as a goon (which is not bad at all) then I've lost faith in him.


Ian Slater has only fought twice as a Phantom but the one fight, he tunes a guy up trying to spark his team off an opening faceoff, and the second he gets beat by one of the toughest fighters in the AHL defending a teammate. Something Zac seems to not be interested in doing. I like Zac but at this point, Darrol Powe offers just as much as him and more unless Zac sheds his mits. What happend to the "fighting, hitting, and scoring, that's hockey." Zac Rinaldo???

Gimme Sestito at this point any do over Zac until the kid wakes up.

[thekidd21]

Originally Posted by HardHitt3n

my ? to you is why do you love rinaldo so much outside of the checking? I like rinaldo i just think we have better suited players for that role thats all

i like him because hes exciting, the flyers havnt had someone this exciting for awhile now. every shift u never kno if hes gonna have a highlight real hit. and he doesnt win many fights but thier always exciting.

[Phillyfan11]

Originally Posted by thekidd21

i like him because hes exciting, the flyers havnt had someone this exciting for awhile now. every shift u never kno if hes gonna have a highlight real hit. and he doesnt win many fights but thier always exciting.

He's done fighting. He'll probably scrap 5 times a season max from here on out. Expounding, there is one Phantoms fight where his teammate gets hit dirty and he is right there and doesn't do a thing about it. So a teammate skates out of his way to go with the guy.

He got tuned up by Keith freaking Aulie who should not even have sniffed a draw against even Rinaldo in a fight. Why? Zac was trying to not fight and it earned him an embarassing loss.

[thekidd21]

Originally Posted by Phillyfan11

He's done fighting. He'll probably scrap 5 times a season max from here on out. Expounding, there is one Phantoms fight where his teammate gets hit dirty and he is right there and doesn't do a thing about it. So a teammate skates out of his way to go with the guy.

He got tuned up by Keith freaking Aulie who should not even have sniffed a draw against even Rinaldo in a fight. Why? Zac was trying to not fight and it earned him an embarassing loss.

if he doesnt do anything this year then im right there with u, but i think he will be just the same as last year, maybe not as crazy because of how Lavi coaches to be babies, but i still think he will put on a show. I guess we will have to see.

[BullyFan]

We're only 2 games in, I don't think there's any reason to "vent" yet.

Saturdays game was close, today's we got robbed of 2 goals. Bryz has looked good although the D has been leaving him out to dry. Grossman hasn't looked good(not sure if he was playing during the lockout), L. Schenn has showed some aggression and has made some good defensive plays.

The 3rd and 4th lines could use some tweaking. Shelley/Sestito should be in and I will lose my shit if Harry Z is brought up over McGinn to replace Rinaldo.

Laughton has looked good, but I'd send him back to junior. Not because of bad play, just because I Hate bringing 18 year olds and asking them to play a checking role and giving them little ice time.

[TwentyOneKords]

The puzzlement I am feeling is regarding Fedotenko. Wtf does he bring to the team? If you are going to bring in a vet player that won't be counted on for scoring he should be a leader/grinder type.

Please understand I am not a Euro basher by any stretch but very few Euros can fill the role I have indicated. This team is already chock full of young guys and Euros and leadership is far more valuable to us right now as can be evidenced by the first 2 games.

I have zero doubts that a call-up could achieve whatever meager point totals Rusty can put up at half (or less) of his salary and bring some grit as well. This signing baffled me when it happened and moreso now after watching the team.

If it was 5+ years ago then ok I absolutely understand it and support it, but now I have no clue what Homer sees in him.

[D Y B FLYERS]

At this point I gotta agree with BullyFan, though if we go another game or two without a win I'll be right here with you HH. A few things I'd like to comment on after the first two games, and most of which were evident after the first game.

-Bryz has looked good. The Penguins game I'd argue that none of the goals were his fault. Obviously minus the empty netter there were only two. Yesterday against Buffalo he was accountable for four of them, but he actually looked good again. Where is the defense? Try clearing the area infront of him.

-The defense has been atrocious. Grossman has looked flat. The Flyers have a couple big boys back there, and they play like their 5'9". Coburn has looked a bit better, but for two towering guys you'd think they'd use their size to their advantage. Coburn has been this way his whole career. He'll show flashes of being a beast back there, but that's about it. Luckily for him his game has grown to where he can be beneficial without have that nasty streak. Luke Schenn has played with some energy, but one guy back there playing with some emotion isn't enough.

-The offense has been nearly as bad, and productively has been even worse. This high powered offense has 3 goals in 2 games. That isn't going to cut it. Simmonds, Giroux and Hartnell have been about the only bright spots so far. Read and Wellwood I think are doing okay, but need to play with a little more hop in their step. As for everyone else? Geesh where do I even begin. Rinaldo needs to get his head out of his ass. If he thinks he is going to continue to hold a roster spot without hitting and fighting, he needs a reality check. Fedotenko has been the obvious goof out there. He looks like he's just gliding around, out for a Sunday afternoon skate on the pond. WAKE UP! Somebody else would glady take his spot if he is just going to go through the motions out there.

-Overall, these guys look flat. Should it have been expected? Maybe/probably, however, other teams have come out flying (Pens). Have the Flyers really looked bad? In my opinion, no. They played just as well as Pittsburgh in the 2nd and 3rd periods, but those first two goals were costly. Teams need time to get into a groove and to gel, and while we all wish it would happen ASAP, sometimes it just doesn't happen. The shortened season has obviously magnified the procress, and is getting as all frustrated twice as quickly as it normally would. The Flyers need a spark. Shelley or Sestito need to be in the linuep. Throw some hits, drop the mits, and get the guys going. I think Sestito provides a bit more energy than what Shelley would, but Thursday against the Rangers in Philly is the perfect game for both of those guys to be in the lineup.

Just my .02 so far.

[HardHitt3n]

We are an awful team. I dont expect anything this yr, but it be nice if we was in some games. 1-11 onn the pp this yr lol and we give up goals left and right

[bupz91]

It's only 3 games in, but I'll give my thoughts right now.
A. I saw nothing from McGinn, at all in his first game. Didn't expect much, but I didn't hear his name after the first period.
B. I'm not a huge fan of Giroux as a captain, 2 minors in 5 minutes in the 3rd? I know we are down, but I don't see that as a great leading example.
C. WE NEED SOME TOUGHNESS, Jesus, get Sestito in there for R.Fed, god please do something
D. Bryz has been good with people in front of him, with no D, he looks bad obviously.
E. Laughton has looked good in parts, I would keep him up for sure over Wellscrub and R.Fed.
F. Simmonds and Hartnell both have the right idea, the fact that neither of them has scored on the PP is just bad luck.
G. The defense has GOT to get better, it is horrible how many 2-1's and 1-0's breaks we have been giving up.
H. I love what Simmonds and Schenn did at the end of the game. Hopefully Briere coming back helps a little.

[HardHitt3n]

Originally Posted by bupz91

It's only 3 games in, but I'll give my thoughts right now.
A. I saw nothing from McGinn, at all in his first game. Didn't expect much, but I didn't hear his name after the first period.
B. I'm not a huge fan of Giroux as a captain, 2 minors in 5 minutes in the 3rd? I know we are down, but I don't see that as a great leading example.
C. WE NEED SOME TOUGHNESS, Jesus, get Sestito in there for R.Fed, god please do something
D. Bryz has been good with people in front of him, with no D, he looks bad obviously.
E. Laughton has looked good in parts, I would keep him up for sure over Wellscrub and R.Fed.
F. Simmonds and Hartnell both have the right idea, the fact that neither of them has scored on the PP is just bad luck.
G. The defense has GOT to get better, it is horrible how many 2-1's and 1-0's breaks we have been giving up.
H. I love what Simmonds and Schenn did at the end of the game. Hopefully Briere coming back helps a little.

i saw alot from mcginn tonight. definately threw the body around and was def a presence in front of the net. I wish we could keep him up over rinaldo

[bupz91]

Originally Posted by HardHitt3n

i saw alot from mcginn tonight. definately threw the body around and was def a presence in front of the net. I wish we could keep him up over rinaldo

I didn't see him hit much, I didn't even hear them mention him after they said he was up for Rinaldo. It might have just been because his line didn't play that well though.

[BullyFan]

Originally Posted by bupz91

It's only 3 games in, but I'll give my thoughts right now.
A. I saw nothing from McGinn, at all in his first game. Didn't expect much, but I didn't hear his name after the first period.
B. I'm not a huge fan of Giroux as a captain, 2 minors in 5 minutes in the 3rd? I know we are down, but I don't see that as a great leading example.
C. WE NEED SOME TOUGHNESS, Jesus, get Sestito in there for R.Fed, god please do something
D. Bryz has been good with people in front of him, with no D, he looks bad obviously.
E. Laughton has looked good in parts, I would keep him up for sure over Wellscrub and R.Fed.
F. Simmonds and Hartnell both have the right idea, the fact that neither of them has scored on the PP is just bad luck.
G. The defense has GOT to get better, it is horrible how many 2-1's and 1-0's breaks we have been giving up.
H. I love what Simmonds and Schenn did at the end of the game. Hopefully Briere coming back helps a little.

I'll agree that Laughton has looked good, but I wouldn't leave him in to fill the role of a 4th liner. I think he has the potential to be a Mike Richards type player, but he won't develop if he stays in Philly this year and plays bottom 4 minutes.

I thought McGinn looked pretty good in his first game, I would keep him up over Wellwood.

Fedotenko should be waived. He really brings nothing to the team.