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Old 06-26-2012, 10:26 PM
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Asham turns down fights? Thats laughable FattPatt....
Surprisingly videos of Asham appearing to decline a fight are hard to come by on Youtube.... However I can tell you I have seen him decline Shawn Thornton so take that for what it's worth. Over the last 2 years to only have 14 fights just isn't too impressive to me considering that's his main role.

Colton Orr practically had to take his gloves off for him here.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:30 PM
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Thornton on the other hand has NEVER turned down a fight, and a HW like Asham should be ashamed for being reluctant to go with Orr.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:52 PM
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Thornton and Prust were able to collect 20 fights in one season Asham has 14 fights in 2 seasons......just saying.

And before somebody brings up that Asham didn't play in every game either season.....well Konopka was able to muster 18 fights in 55 games this year.

So yeah I would take Thornton, Konopka or Prust over Asham.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:40 AM
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Thornton and Prust were able to collect 20 fights in one season Asham has 14 fights in 2 seasons......just saying.

And before somebody brings up that Asham didn't play in every game either season.....well Konopka was able to muster 18 fights in 55 games this year.

So yeah I would take Thornton, Konopka or Prust over Asham.
asham played his best when he played for the flyers. in 2 yrs he had 31 fights for us. he is also a middleweight and by no means in h3lll should he be fighting orr or thornton, but he does it anyway cuz hes a great team guy
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:16 AM
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I just throw up at the thought of a guy Like Harry Z being in the lineup.. We lost JVR, and probably Jagr, so we are gonna need a winger.. In a perfect world, they would allow Sestito, or bring a guy like Tye Mcginn have a shot.. Even a Ben Holmstrom.. Please for the love of god, not a Harry Z.. we have enough small, quick finessse players
We lost JVR, not Sestito. You don't replace JVR with Prust, you replace him with Nash.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:34 AM
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Prust is overrated, and has been seen he joined the NYR with their media hype. No one really gave a crap about this guy when he was in Calgary or Phoenix, he was just another average middleweight.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:38 AM
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I don't really see room for either of those guys in the lineup, but I'd go with Prust if I had to pick one. Prust fits the mold a bit better, and IMO is the easy choice over Moen or Asham. I'm a huge Asham fan and he had a great few seasons in Philly, but he just does not seem like the same player. Moen has really fallen off the map, but as RC said he may just need a change of scenery. That being said, I really can't see them carrying Rinaldo/Sestito/Shelley/Prust. I have a feeling Sestito can evolve into a solid player. I am not talking a star type player at all, but a guy who can contribute well on a 3rd 4th line type role. I can seeing him being way more of an asset than Rinaldo.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:18 PM
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Surprisingly videos of Asham appearing to decline a fight are hard to come by on Youtube.... However I can tell you I have seen him decline Shawn Thornton so take that for what it's worth. Over the last 2 years to only have 14 fights just isn't too impressive to me considering that's his main role.

Colton Orr practically had to take his gloves off for him here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMwalzLQlNo
i bet he turned down Thorton. So what is that one fight? The reason Asham has low fight totals are because one hes getting old, and he never really goes looking for fights unless someone takes liberties with his teammates.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:22 PM
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We lost JVR, not Sestito. You don't replace JVR with Prust, you replace him with Nash.
lol not hardly. you can replace his 11 goals with just about anyone bro. JVR hardly played last yr and we did just fine without him. So we could sign a prust for PK purposes and a faceoffs guy. The toughness is a bonus. Id prefer to trade for chris neil lmao but in no way in hell that happens
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We lost JVR, not Sestito. You don't replace JVR with Prust, you replace him with Nash.
Comparing JVR to Nash?...or saying you've got a spot go get Nash. Either way Nash is not gonna help this team. They don't need Rick Nash. They need a D man who will rip your fucking head off and hand it to you. They need a forward that can win face offs more than 45% of the time. Nash isn't coming here and he wouldn't fit in if he did. Blow your cap space on a guy like Weber...then get the best PK man in the league right now in Prust.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:09 AM
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lol not hardly. you can replace his 11 goals with just about anyone bro. JVR hardly played last yr and we did just fine without him. So we could sign a prust for PK purposes and a faceoffs guy. The toughness is a bonus. Id prefer to trade for chris neil lmao but in no way in hell that happens
Prust and his 5 goals are not an asset that the Flyers need, he's not even worth the money the Rags are offering.

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Comparing JVR to Nash?...or saying you've got a spot go get Nash. Either way Nash is not gonna help this team. They don't need Rick Nash. They need a D man who will rip your fucking head off and hand it to you. They need a forward that can win face offs more than 45% of the time. Nash isn't coming here and he wouldn't fit in if he did. Blow your cap space on a guy like Weber...then get the best PK man in the league right now in Prust.
Weber will not be a Flyer anytime soon which is why Homer traded for Schenn and Prust is nowhere near the best PK in the league, the best PK on the Rangers was Lundquist. Prust skates like he is running in quicksand, couldn't score into an empty net, and his fights are boring wrestling matches.

Nash would be a beast of a player on this team and take some of the defensive heat away from Giroux.The Flyers lost speed and size when they traded away Carter and JVR, Nash would fill that hole nicely.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:07 AM
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then get the best PK man in the league right now in Prust.
Lol, that's funny.

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Prust skates like he is running in quicksand, couldn't score into an empty net, and his fights are boring wrestling matches.
Agreed, he's an overrated pillow puncher.
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Prust may never hurt anyone but he rarely takes a bad loss either. He doesnt have the most exciting fights but its not like he just grabs on and hugs (ala Stortini) he just has a very technical dirty-boxing type of style. That said, i'd take the Asham of old over him any day, but that player may no longer exist and any added toughness is ok by me.
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Prust and his 5 goals are not an asset that the Flyers need, he's not even worth the money the Rags are offering.



Weber will not be a Flyer anytime soon which is why Homer traded for Schenn and Prust is nowhere near the best PK in the league, the best PK on the Rangers was Lundquist. Prust skates like he is running in quicksand, couldn't score into an empty net, and his fights are boring wrestling matches.

Nash would be a beast of a player on this team and take some of the defensive heat away from Giroux.The Flyers lost speed and size when they traded away Carter and JVR, Nash would fill that hole nicely.
Yer easier to read than a 2 dollar porn mag , Hockey Doc. If the Flyers got Prust you'd be kissing his ass in a month.

Rick Nash is over-rated.

Another topic: Bernier has asked for a trade out of LA....thoughts on him as a backup? I'd take him.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:28 PM
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Everyone has declined a fight at some point in their career, including Thornton, Asham and everyone else.
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