2011-2012 Season

[Lucy Brown]

Hate to say I told you so but....

I had my doubts after some really bad losses to the Devils,Pittsburg and Montreal in the 2nd half of the season but they always bounced back strong. They always would put together a string of wins. With the run for the Presidents trophy I really had to stand behind this team but there was always this skepticism in me about this team. You guys kept telling me I was wrong and I started to believe that it was just the pesimistic Ranger fan in me but I was right. This team IS soft and their coach IS a moron. This team is not a playoff hockey team. They are a points collector in the regular season. Callahan is a fraud of a captain. Dubinsky should have been traded. Their role players didnt show up (or werent used). The fringe players suck. Guys like Mitchell and Stephan are AHL players at best. This is an ineffective team. They cant carry the puck into the zone. They cant clear their own zone. They dont win faceoffs and cant score on the power play. Not only cant they score on the PP but they dont even know how to set up a play on the PP. How do you expect to win a series against a team displaying these poor qualities. The only reason (well there are three) that they had such a good record in the regular season was because of the shot blocking, Hank bailing them out of many potential losses and their record against the Flyers. If you think about it, if the Rangers go .500 against the Flyers they are only the 5th or 6th seed in the playoffs. This team is a piece of s%# playoff team. F'ing embarrassment this team. I just dont see how this team can turn it around against a team that has so strongly outplayed them. How do you let a guy like Neil dictate the outcome this series? I want to say lets see what kind of balls this team has in Ottawa but they already showed us last night. There is nothing underneath that skirt to fear.

[Lucy Brown]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

Faceoffs are a big reason they are in this position for sure. Jack has been going on about this since day 1. But my main scapegoat is Torts. He changed the way the team played for 82 games when he repeatedly told them to "Ignore the extra stuff". Since when is sticking up for your teammates "extra"? They met every challenge head on for 82 games and then they do a complete 180. It makes no sense at all. Some teams could play the turn the other cheek game but not this one.

Then there is the very alarming issue of Torts' fXcking asspal Mitchel. What a waste of fXcking flesh. What does he do? He turns Spezza loose for the one goal last night so defense is not his attribute. He is soft as a fXcking pillow so that is not it. He can't score. What, he could suck a good dick Torts? Is that it you fudgepacking prick? Bickel should have been playing forward from game 3 on and someone should have taken Mitchel's worthless spot.

Still, they played a pretty good game and I have no reason to think they can't win a game in Ottawa Monday.

LOL. Did you read you're own post? What the hell has this team done to give you an ounce of confidence in Ottowa Monday?

[nyrgoal]

The only ounce of hope here is that Henrik already has a SO in the first game at Ottawa this series.

Is it too hard to ask for someone to just STAND UP on this team. Take a stand and just pound one of the Sens into the ice and send a mother frigging shockwave through the Rangers bench and wake that sleeping giant.

There is no way in the world that Konopka and Neil two 4th line scrubs should be beating us. Aside from that shi* goal last night from Spezza he hasnt done anything, Aflie obviously is gone and hasnt contributed, Karlsson hasnt done squat and Mickalek (how ever you spell his gay name) hasnt put up huge numbers like his 35 goal season he had this year.

We are getting beat by Konopka and Neil. Every faceoff the Sens need one Konopka takes the draw, wins, then gets off the ice. Every shift him and Neil are out there, they are banging bodies or camped right on Henriks door step and doing everything they can to get into his head.

Someone needs to step up here bigtime other wise im going to support a guy I miss in John Davidson and im buying a blues hat.

Ps how about that crowd last night, dead as a door nail and the Rangers didnt play that bad. The crowd needed to get going here and get behind the Rangers. Hopefully someone on the Rangers is reading our posts and spreads the "cheer" to the team.

LETS GO BOYS!!!

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by Lucy Brown

LOL. Did you read you're own post? What the hell has this team done to give you an ounce of confidence in Ottowa Monday?

Yeah, my post had to do with two issues I have with Torts. Despite those issues they have been in every game this series and won a couple. So why the fXck could they not win based on my post? Have fun jumping ship when trouble comes, it shows a lot about you. Maybe they will lose, I don't know, but to act like they don't have a chance because of a couple OT losses and a one goal loss is retarded.

Everytime they faced adversity this year, they have answered. That is what they have done to give me confidence that they could win a hockey game Monday night.

[nyr2]

Originally Posted by Lucy Brown

Hate to say I told you so but....

I had my doubts after some really bad losses to the Devils,Pittsburg and Montreal in the 2nd half of the season but they always bounced back strong. They always would put together a string of wins. With the run for the Presidents trophy I really had to stand behind this team but there was always this skepticism in me about this team. You guys kept telling me I was wrong and I started to believe that it was just the pesimistic Ranger fan in me but I was right. This team IS soft and their coach IS a moron. This team is not a playoff hockey team. They are a points collector in the regular season. Callahan is a fraud of a captain. Dubinsky should have been traded. Their role players didnt show up (or werent used). The fringe players suck. Guys like Mitchell and Stephan are AHL players at best. This is an ineffective team. They cant carry the puck into the zone. They cant clear their own zone. They dont win faceoffs and cant score on the power play. Not only cant they score on the PP but they dont even know how to set up a play on the PP. How do you expect to win a series against a team displaying these poor qualities. The only reason (well there are three) that they had such a good record in the regular season was because of the shot blocking, Hank bailing them out of many potential losses and their record against the Flyers. If you think about it, if the Rangers go .500 against the Flyers they are only the 5th or 6th seed in the playoffs. This team is a piece of s%# playoff team. F'ing embarrassment this team. I just dont see how this team can turn it around against a team that has so strongly outplayed them. How do you let a guy like Neil dictate the outcome this series? I want to say lets see what kind of balls this team has in Ottawa but they already showed us last night. There is nothing underneath that skirt to fear.

I'm going to have to assume that this is just misdirected anger...if not how can you say this? He has been the only guy to step up all season and he has done what he can in the playoffs, trying to be physical and trying to stick up for teammates. He's not a sniper and he's not an enforcer...nor is he a center, I don't know what more the guy can do.

Funny for all the bashing Richards took this season, everyone is getting on Stepan and Mitchell and not him. Gaborik has been invisible as well. I'm not saying that either of them have played terrible, but they certainly aren't getting anything done either. Mitchell, Stepan, and even Dubinsky certainly didn't carry the team in the regular season, what makes anyone think they would this post season?

The problems are deeper than one or two guys...I could sit here and pick apart every bad play Girardi had last night too, but he's not the sole reason they lost either. It was a team mentality that got them 51 wins and it's the lack of that team game that has them looking stupid in the playoffs.

[pesadillamal]

Who said anything about Mitchell carrying the team? The team is a sum of all parts and since Mitchell does absolutely nothing so his spot could be used to help the team be more gritty if a different player was called up or Bickel put at forward. Torts loves this guy for no reason and that was my only point. I didn't know you couldn't say something bad about someone without that meaning you think the player should carry the team. How about cover Spezza and not turn him loose? The guy brings nothing.

[Lucy Brown]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

Yeah, my post had to do with two issues I have with Torts. Despite those issues they have been in every game this series and won a couple. So why the fXck could they not win based on my post? Have fun jumping ship when trouble comes, it shows a lot about you. Maybe they will lose, I don't know, but to act like they don't have a chance because of a couple OT losses and a one goal loss is retarded.

Everytime they faced adversity this year, they have answered. That is what they have done to give me confidence that they could win a hockey game Monday night.

I'm not jumping ship. There are issues present in this team that I have been talking about since the begining of the 2nd half of this season. Culminating in a pathetic effort on the last day of the season with a horrible loss against the Caps with the Presidents trophy on the line. Even with the the two games they won I have a problem with. The two goals they gave up in game 1 to make a blow out become somewhat of a close game and only scoring one goal in the shut out win. They have only scored 3 goals in the last 3 games and only 5 in the last 4 games while giving up 8. Thats a 1.25 goals for. That sucks and is not enough to win a playoff series even with the a top goalie and good defense.

[Lucy Brown]

Originally Posted by nyr2

I'm going to have to assume that this is just misdirected anger...if not how can you say this? He has been the only guy to step up all season and he has done what he can in the playoffs, trying to be physical and trying to stick up for teammates. He's not a sniper and he's not an enforcer...nor is he a center, I don't know what more the guy can do.

Funny for all the bashing Richards took this season, everyone is getting on Stepan and Mitchell and not him. Gaborik has been invisible as well. I'm not saying that either of them have played terrible, but they certainly aren't getting anything done either. Mitchell, Stepan, and even Dubinsky certainly didn't carry the team in the regular season, what makes anyone think they would this post season?

The problems are deeper than one or two guys...I could sit here and pick apart every bad play Girardi had last night too, but he's not the sole reason they lost either. It was a team mentality that got them 51 wins and it's the lack of that team game that has them looking stupid in the playoffs.

Dont get me wrong. I like Cally but he is no Messier. He hasnt played like he can in the last few games. He has not rallied this team.

I havent bashed Richards only because I forgot to. Thanks for nothing Brad. Another star player that fades to black once they arrive in New York.

Gaborik. Well thanks for not showing up for the playoffs. Where is the guy that scored all those goals in the regular season?

Girardi? There is a reason why he was not drafted.

Mitchell and Stephan must have something on Torts. I see no other reason why they would be allowed to play.

[nyr2]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

Who said anything about Mitchell carrying the team? The team is a sum of all parts and since Mitchell does absolutely nothing so his spot could be used to help the team be more gritty if a different player was called up or Bickel put at forward. Torts loves this guy for no reason and that was my only point. I didn't know you couldn't say something bad about someone without that meaning you think the player should carry the team. How about cover Spezza and not turn him loose? The guy brings nothing.

You may have missed my "carry the team" point or perhaps I wasn't clear in what I was saying. My point was, Mitchell and Stepan were the same players during the season as they are now...and yes, Mitchell took a lot of sh!t on here so I'm not saying like bashing him is out of the blue...it just seemed to me that by some people here, more has been mentioned about the uselessness of these two as opposed to the disappearance of the others who actually were the ones carrying the team during the season.

I definitely think he fXcked up on the Spezza goal, but McDonagh let the puck threw his legs, Girardi was off in outer space, and Lundqvist let the puck slip through. I think my main point here is that just like Mitchell and Stepan weren't the catalysts to a 51 win season, they also aren't the reason that the team is about to be playing golf mid-week.

Originally Posted by Lucy Brown

Dont get me wrong. I like Cally but he is no Messier. He hasnt played like he can in the last few games. He has not rallied this team.

I havent bashed Richards only because I forgot to. Thanks for nothing Brad. Another star player that fades to black once they arrive in New York.

Gaborik. Well thanks for not showing up for the playoffs. Where is the guy that scored all those goals in the regular season?

Girardi? There is a reason why he was not drafted.

Mitchell and Stephan must have something on Torts. I see no other reason why they would be allowed to play.

Ok...you're right, Callahan is no Messier, then again not many were. Lidstrom aside, there really are no "old school" type Captains left in the league.

Other than that, good points.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by nyr2

You may have missed my "carry the team" point or perhaps I wasn't clear in what I was saying. My point was, Mitchell and Stepan were the same players during the season as they are now...and yes, Mitchell took a lot of sh!t on here so I'm not saying like bashing him is out of the blue...it just seemed to me that by some people here, more has been mentioned about the uselessness of these two as opposed to the disappearance of the others who actually were the ones carrying the team during the season.

I definitely think he fXcked up on the Spezza goal, but McDonagh let the puck threw his legs, Girardi was off in outer space, and Lundqvist let the puck slip through. I think my main point here is that just like Mitchell and Stepan weren't the catalysts to a 51 win season, they also aren't the reason that the team is about to be playing golf mid-week.

Good point. I was just mentioning two things I didn't like about Torts' approach and Mitchell happens to be one of them. I just can't stand seeing him anymore. I don't mean to put blame on him but I blame Torts because I feel someone else could bring more.

And you are also right that it wasn't Mitchell's fault alone on the goal. Girardi could have come over and Henry could have made a save. McDonagh looked fine to me on the play. The thing is if Mitchell stays with Spezza there is clearly no problem.

I actually like Stepan but I am not going to defend him right now.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by Lucy Brown

I'm not jumping ship. There are issues present in this team that I have been talking about since the begining of the 2nd half of this season. Culminating in a pathetic effort on the last day of the season with a horrible loss against the Caps with the Presidents trophy on the line. Even with the the two games they won I have a problem with. The two goals they gave up in game 1 to make a blow out become somewhat of a close game and only scoring one goal in the shut out win. They have only scored 3 goals in the last 3 games and only 5 in the last 4 games while giving up 8. Thats a 1.25 goals for. That sucks and is not enough to win a playoff series even with the a top goalie and good defense.

I understand being a little bitter right now but to question me for thinking they could possibly win a hockey game Monday is a little much. They could have won any game and they could have lost any except for game 1. What will piss me off the most is if they go out like suckers. They best come to play at the very least, and I actually have a lot of confidence that they will do that.

[nyr2]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

Good point. I was just mentioning two things I didn't like about Torts' approach and Mitchell happens to be one of them. I just can't stand seeing him anymore. I don't mean to put blame on him but I blame Torts because I feel someone else could bring more.

And you are also right that it wasn't Mitchell's fault alone on the goal. Girardi could have come over and Henry could have made a save. McDonagh looked fine to me on the play. The thing is if Mitchell stays with Spezza there is clearly no problem.

I actually like Stepan but I am not going to defend him right now.

Ok I understand that side of it too...as was mentioned earlier on I think even a guy like Newbury, while not offensively gifted, would have added some spark and physical play.

And yeah, it's hard to defend many guys right now...I think Stepan can be useful but he's just not cutting it right now.

[Lucy Brown]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

I understand being a little bitter right now but to question me for thinking they could possibly win a hockey game Monday is a little much. They could have won any game and they could have lost any except for game 1. What will piss me off the most is if they go out like suckers. They best come to play at the very least, and I actually have a lot of confidence that they will do that.

Well anything could happen, sure. Just like the Pens scoring 10 goals in Philly. I'm being very pessimistic admittedly and should be more optimistic about the Rangers chances of wining tomorrow night seeing as they had over 100 points in the regular season. However I cant be confident becasue they havent really done anything to really give me any confidence. Sure they could have won every game but they didnt. Only 3 goals in the last 3 games concerns me. Not a good time for the scoring to go into a dry spell. Hopefully the odds are that they will explode tomorrow and score 5 or 6 goals. I would like nothing better than to eat every word I've posted on here. I guess will find out in about 24 hrs.

[bigjack]

This sums it up:

From Larry Brooks of the NY Post:

"The Rangers have not scored an even-strength goal in 135:17. They have scored two goals at even-strength in the last 259:30, both scored by Boyle. Ridiculous."


Over the last 2 playoffs, Lundqvist is 3-7 with a 2.02 GAA and a .932 save%. This year he is 2-3 with a 1.78 gaa and a .945 save%.

It's disgraceful when your best player by far is left naked and unprotected and the team scores no fuc*en goals to help him. You would think that the Rangers would so appreciate that he carries the team on his back with all the pressure that they would protect him, knock the opposition on their asses for him, crosscheck guys out of the crease for him, fight for him whatever and we just don't see the respect and committment to help and protect this guy!
You are stopping almost 95% of your shots and are one game away from elimination!
That is so disgraceful and is anyone gonna in a smart manner step up to Neil or hit the Senators best players like we have been hit!

Lastly is I have been very complimentary to Tortorella for his willingness to take young players and develop them and build a core of homegrown Rangers and a team committed to blocking shots and all that but in the playoffs they have been outhit and that is all on him and also he's never done a thing to fix the PP and lack of winning faceoffs!
All year we have all said the PP and draws are gonna come back to hurt us in a big spot and we have all been proven to be right.
They have to take that blasting the puck in sh*t where the puck goes around the net and boards right to a Senator who gets the puck right back out of the zone and shove it! Instead of blasting the puck in around the boards, dump the puck in softly in a corner ( and always in Karlsson's corner) and get in there and forecheck and hit! Why can I see it and the Rangers coaches can't. They blast the puck in with no plan and it goes right to a Senator on the boards who is waiting for it and out the puck comes whether on the PP or at even strength.
Dump it in softly into a corner where you can pin the Senators goddammit and make them pay with hard hits.
Lastly is if you can't score cleanly then you have to score dirty! Jam that SOB Senator goalie and his crease and park a fuc*en tent in there like the Flyers did to the Rangers in game 7 of the 1974 playoffs (the Rolfe/Schultz) game and score dirty goals like they did on Giacomin!
What the fuc* is going on?
You slow a team down by hitting them and you beat a hot goalie by crowding him and blocking his vision!
What are we missing here?
Lastly is DelZotto and Stepan have sucked this series, just sucked and been gutless!
Hey Torts, lets get the Rangers to play some nasty but clean hockey tonight and act desperate and stand up for one another and protect Lundqvist! If you don't, you can join the Penguins on the golfcourse!

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by Lucy Brown

Well anything could happen, sure. Just like the Pens scoring 10 goals in Philly. I'm being very pessimistic admittedly and should be more optimistic about the Rangers chances of wining tomorrow night seeing as they had over 100 points in the regular season. However I cant be confident becasue they havent really done anything to really give me any confidence. Sure they could have won every game but they didnt. Only 3 goals in the last 3 games concerns me. Not a good time for the scoring to go into a dry spell. Hopefully the odds are that they will explode tomorrow and score 5 or 6 goals. I would like nothing better than to eat every word I've posted on here. I guess will find out in about 24 hrs.

I do understand how you feel. If they lose then there are some players I am going to have to bash to let out some growing frustration. Until then I will remain optimistic that they could man up and pull it out. If they pull this out then it will actually be better for them going forward but it's hard to think that wat right now.