Possible Fights: Detroit vs Pittsburgh

[SnowballIsChamp]

Originally Posted by PsuNate1977

And he got beat pretty easily both times..

Please tell us how there fight in the A went since you know.

and Carkner lossed about all of his fights against Heavyweights and lossed quite a few to Middleweights and Light-Heavys as well. Despite having a very good card Carkner wasn't anything special. You posted a link to his card on DYG's Now go back and look at all of his losses and think who out of them could beat Downey.

Not to mention Roberts pretty much got lucky against Carkner as well as he fell down.

[SnowballIsChamp]

Originally Posted by Rugged

You're wrong. Crosby was the difference tonight, not Roberts. Put down the crack pipe.

You mean his tip in on a open net was what changed the game? Just shut up your obviously 14 or 15.

[Rugged]

Originally Posted by SnowballIsChamp

You mean his tip in on a open net was what changed the game? Just shut up your obviously 14 or 15.

You're obviously retarded and hockey-ignorant. Stop posting, dumbass.

[SnowballIsChamp]

Originally Posted by Rugged

You're obviously retarded and hockey-ignorant. Stop posting, dumbass.

Solid reply buddy.

[Rugged]

Originally Posted by SnowballIsChamp

Solid reply buddy.

Ditto.

If you have no idea what you're talking about then just save your post for another thread/topic. You stated that "Roberts was the difference maker..." and you are wrong. The Penguins won, mostly, because of Sidney Crosby's play, not Gary Roberts'.

You're obviously just another Crosby hater, to which I say, "kiss my ass."

[SnowballIsChamp]

Originally Posted by Rugged

Ditto.

If you have no idea what you're talking about then just save your post for another thread/topic. You stated that "Roberts was the difference maker..." and you are wrong. The Penguins won, mostly, because of Sidney Crosby's play, not Gary Roberts'.

You're obviously just another Crosby hater, to which I say, "kiss my ass."

Do some research you clown. I'm one of the few people here who actually like Crosby and think he is the best player in the league on this site outside of the Penguin homers.

Your just some dip**** who doesn't even watch the games just sits back and reads your "Teen People" while you wait for the TV to get loud and find out who scores. Crosby scoring twice last night and you jump to the conclusion that he is the reason they won instead of actually thinking about how those goal scoring plays got started.

Fact is despite Crosby's two goals he was still a non-factor most of the game and had about 4-5 turnovers meanwhile guys like Orpik & Roberts had a all around strong game. Malkin played a better game last night as well.

Now I will wait until you finally get around to replying during your computer class tommorrow.

[PsuNate1977]

Originally Posted by SnowballIsChamp

Please tell us how there fight in the A went since you know.

and Carkner lossed about all of his fights against Heavyweights and lossed quite a few to Middleweights and Light-Heavys as well. Despite having a very good card Carkner wasn't anything special. You posted a link to his card on DYG's Now go back and look at all of his losses and think who out of them could beat Downey.

Not to mention Roberts pretty much got lucky against Carkner as well as he fell down.

This statement shows you know nothing about Hockey.. The guy had tow to toe fights against Probert, Byers, McSorley, Brown Just to name a few... Carkner was one of the most underarted fighters ever. Get a tape and learn.

He had wins over Gillies (Maybe the best ever), Martinson, Curran, Byers, May, Ray.

All those guys would kill Downey, add the fact he had solid draws with Tocchet, Churla, Plett, Neely, Kocur, once again all these guys kill Downey.

Who also can forget the fight he had with Troy Crowder at the Spectrum the year Crowder was killing Flyers.

Get some tapes, knowledge, and post back.

[PsuNate1977]

Originally Posted by SnowballIsChamp

Please tell us how there fight in the A went since you know.
down.

Downey got killed like he did to BGL in the NHL? Downey sucks.. He has lived off one lucky punch and has done nothing after that.

Loved when Brashear cleaned his clock.

[fightfanfanatic]

don't even bother snowball those two have to be the biggest and probabley oldest losers around and like to post about twenty times a day, mostly about how tough laraque is and how great the penguins are. P.S don't get into it with rugged or he might rat you out to the higher ups cause he's one of those yappers that talks sh!t and tries to get you to punch in your computer cause he know's he'll never have to be face to face with ya.

[SnowballIsChamp]

Originally Posted by PsuNate1977

Downey got killed like he did to BGL in the NHL? Downey sucks.. He has lived off one lucky punch and has done nothing after that.

Loved when Brashear cleaned his clock.

Oh good description. lol ur an idiot who obviously didn't even see the fight.

[SnowballIsChamp]

Originally Posted by PsuNate1977

This statement shows you know nothing about Hockey.. The guy had tow to toe fights against Probert, Byers, McSorley, Brown Just to name a few... Carkner was one of the most underarted fighters ever. Get a tape and learn.

He had wins over Gillies (Maybe the best ever), Martinson, Curran, Byers, May, Ray.

All those guys would kill Downey, add the fact he had solid draws with Tocchet, Churla, Plett, Neely, Kocur, once again all these guys kill Downey.

Who also can forget the fight he had with Troy Crowder at the Spectrum the year Crowder was killing Flyers.

Get some tapes, knowledge, and post back.

Man, you really need to practice what you preach. If you watched the tapes or maybe did any research outside of going to DYG.

Gillies (Maybe the best ever) - He fought and got Edged by a 5 year out of prime Gillies. I think Gillies was in his last season as well.
Martinson - See Curran
Curran - Seriously? Curran sucked.
Byers - Byers and Downey would be a good fight and Carkner still lossed more then he won against Byers. Byers was a gamer but he was no heavyweight contender.
May - I know your talking about Alan May because Brad May destroyed and picked Carkner apart in there fights.
Ray - Ray was a horrible fighter his first couple seasons and everyone knows that. He go beat in almost every fight. Beating Ray in 91-92 is no feat at all. And actually having a Win against Ray anytime in his career is no feat.
Tocchet - Carkner actually did well.
Churla - Solid Draw??? Churla started throwing and then Carkner took Churla down. Then when Carkner was a Wing Churla had to jump him twice. Carkner wanted nothing to do with Churla who challenged him several times over the years the fact you brought Churla into this thread while defending Carkner shows your cards.
Plett - Come on...think about how dumb that sounds. Wasn't this Plett's last season. He just like Gillies is just a great name on a young guys card. Thats like saying because Jody Shelley beat Probert in 2001 that he can be considered a great.
Neely - Neely was nothing special with the gloves off. Downey could have taken him. Not to mention Carkner only got the one punch in as Neely was destroying him the rest of the fight.
Kocur - Kocur won every fight but one which was a Draw only because Carkner got the jump and the fight lasted like 5 seconds.

You really have no clue on any of these fights do you?



Now lets get on the whole Carkner losses thing. Off the top of my head (and I have seen most of his fights as he was a Wing.)

Garry Roberts
Joel Otto
Jeff Beukeboom
Kevin Hatcher
Jeff Odgers
Kevin McClelland
and I remember him losing to Basil McRae as well. A old Basil McRae.

Now hop on DYG's and find some more fights of his.

Lets see:
http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/Fan...&Report=Player

You really have any right to speak on doing research. But let me guess...you have all the tapes in the World your just to "busy" bull****ting on this board to actually reveiw the fights. 2 reviews for Carkner yet you act like you know all those Wins off the top of your head.

[SnowballIsChamp]

Originally Posted by fightfanfanatic

don't even bother snowball those two have to be the biggest and probabley oldest losers around and like to post about twenty times a day, mostly about how tough laraque is and how great the penguins are. P.S don't get into it with rugged or he might rat you out to the higher ups cause he's one of those yappers that talks sh!t and tries to get you to punch in your computer cause he know's he'll never have to be face to face with ya.

The season is almost over and I have nothing better to do. I know its a waste just by the fact these guys think Laraque is the toughest guy in the world and that Downey would actually not fight him.(cause Downey is always the guy to back down) Silly Penguin fans.

[PsuNate1977]

Originally Posted by SnowballIsChamp

Please tell us how there fight in the A went since you know.

and Carkner lossed about all of his fights against Heavyweights and lossed quite a few to Middleweights and Light-Heavys as well. Despite having a very good card Carkner wasn't anything special. You posted a link to his card on DYG's Now go back and look at all of his losses and think who out of them could beat Downey.

Not to mention Roberts pretty much got lucky against Carkner as well as he fell down.

Originally Posted by SnowballIsChamp

Man, you really need to practice what you preach. If you watched the tapes or maybe did any research outside of going to DYG.

Gillies (Maybe the best ever) - He fought and got Edged by a 5 year out of prime Gillies. I think Gillies was in his last season as well.
Martinson - See Curran
Curran - Seriously? Curran sucked.
Byers - Byers and Downey would be a good fight and Carkner still lossed more then he won against Byers. Byers was a gamer but he was no heavyweight contender.
May - I know your talking about Alan May because Brad May destroyed and picked Carkner apart in there fights.
Ray - Ray was a horrible fighter his first couple seasons and everyone knows that. He go beat in almost every fight. Beating Ray in 91-92 is no feat at all. And actually having a Win against Ray anytime in his career is no feat.
Tocchet - Carkner actually did well.
Churla - Solid Draw??? Churla started throwing and then Carkner took Churla down. Then when Carkner was a Wing Churla had to jump him twice. Carkner wanted nothing to do with Churla who challenged him several times over the years the fact you brought Churla into this thread while defending Carkner shows your cards.
Plett - Come on...think about how dumb that sounds. Wasn't this Plett's last season. He just like Gillies is just a great name on a young guys card. Thats like saying because Jody Shelley beat Probert in 2001 that he can be considered a great.
Neely - Neely was nothing special with the gloves off. Downey could have taken him. Not to mention Carkner only got the one punch in as Neely was destroying him the rest of the fight.
Kocur - Kocur won every fight but one which was a Draw only because Carkner got the jump and the fight lasted like 5 seconds.

You really have no clue on any of these fights do you?



Now lets get on the whole Carkner losses thing. Off the top of my head (and I have seen most of his fights as he was a Wing.)

Garry Roberts
Joel Otto
Jeff Beukeboom
Kevin Hatcher
Jeff Odgers
Kevin McClelland
and I remember him losing to Basil McRae as well. A old Basil McRae.

Now hop on DYG's and find some more fights of his.

Lets see:
http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/Fan...&Report=Player

You really have any right to speak on doing research. But let me guess...you have all the tapes in the World your just to "busy" bull****ting on this board to actually reveiw the fights. 2 reviews for Carkner yet you act like you know all those Wins off the top of your head.

Curran sucked? Thats news to me. The guy was one of the better fighters, you probably remember the wash down Maple Leaf.

Gillies was still a heavy hitter when Carkner decsioned him at the Garde. A few years earlier, Wins over Wilson, McSorley, Probert.

Byers and Downey being a graet fight? LMAO! This is where you get in trouble. Put a poll up, I am sure most would agree Byers uppercuts would kill Downey and be too much, like they were for Berube.

Neely nothing special? Seriously get some tapes and get a clue.. The guy was one of the best top line fighters ever. instead of ripping him, respect him.

Downey sucks, answer my question now. Do you think Downey beat Laraque in their Chicago fight? LOL

[PsuNate1977]

Originally Posted by SnowballIsChamp

Oh good description. lol ur an idiot who obviously didn't even see the fight.

And your a Downey homer who thinks he is top 109 cause he beat Parros. Since when did Parros become the measuring stick on weather a guy is a good fighter or not, he isn't even top 10.

Keep going for straws. You will get a clue someday. Troll.

[UKRedWing]

Originally Posted by PsuNate1977

And your a Downey homer who thinks he is top 109 cause he beat Parros. Since when did Parros become the measuring stick on weather a guy is a good fighter or not, he isn't even top 10.

Keep going for straws. You will get a clue someday. Troll.

I dont want to get drawn into this irrelevant argument...

BUT I just want to say a few words of defence for Downey. Yes he did have several post-lockout years of getting his ass handed to him, but this year he has taken on Parros (win), Shelley (draw) and Fedoruk (draw) 2 of which TKO'd him in the past so if you were to look at how good Downey is NOW then people need to start realising hes a much improved fighter.

What has this got to do with Pens v Wings anyway? Downeys not even going to get a game...