Ottawa at NY Rangers 4/14/12

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by bigjack

Is that the guy who was a healthy scratch for game 7 and is so valuable that he is gone and with the Islanders?

This isn't, and never was about how valuable Carkner the player was to the Sens. It was about how valuable what he did was to the Sens. The coach loved what Carkner did and it really gave the Sens a spark in the series. That is non-debatable now.

Textbook enforcing by Carkner, one of the few left who will actually do it. Isles will enjoy his services.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

This isn't, and never was about how valuable Carkner the player was to the Sens. It was about how valuable what he did was to the Sens. The coach loved what Carkner did and it really gave the Sens a spark in the series. That is non-debatable now.

Textbook enforcing by Carkner, one of the few left who will actually do it. Isles will enjoy his services.

I read before that Ottawa offered him a one year deal for $750,000. Boy he was really valued by Ottawa and they did all they could to keep him! They basically said don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
Ottawa's actions now have proven me 100% right naturally! I said he was a selfish dope who's play was stupid and was he rewarded with a new deal or given an offer that told him get lost!

1 year at $750,000!

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by bigjack

I read before that Ottawa offered him a one year deal for $750,000. Boy he was really valued by Ottawa and they did all they could to keep him! They basically said don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
Ottawa's actions now have proven me 100% right naturally! I said he was a selfish dope who's play was stupid and was he rewarded with a new deal or given an offer that told him get lost!

1 year at $750,000!

Simply amazing. You are one of the oldest posters on this site with a potential treasure trove of hockey knowledge, yet you can't be taken seriously at all because of complete and utter idiocy like you just posted.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

Simply amazing. You are one of the oldest posters on this site with a potential treasure trove of hockey knowledge, yet you can't be taken seriously at all because of complete and utter idiocy like you just posted.

You think being offered a one year deal at $750,000 say's that Ottawa really wanted him and needed him?

I don't and the proof is in the pudding. He is gone! If he was so valuable in Ottawa, why is he gone?

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by bigjack

You think being offered a one year deal at $750,000 say's that Ottawa really wanted him and needed him?

I don't and the proof is in the pudding. He is gone! If he was so valuable in Ottawa, why is he gone?

Everyone in New York licked Brandon Prusts balls. Everyone said he was such a great team guy. Evereyone loved Brandon Prust.

Why is he gone? Were fans, players, managers, and media just lying about Prust's qualities? I guess they must have been. I mean the proof is in the pudding right? He's gone so the Rangers must not have liked Prust at all. Based on your stupid f*cking bigjoke logic, that's got to be the case.

OR JUST F*CKING MAYBE

Like with Carkner, the economics of the game changed things and both players (who were very appreciated by their clubs) moved on.

That couldn't possibly be it, could it?

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

Everyone in New York licked Brandon Prusts balls. Everyone said he was such a great team guy. Evereyone loved Brandon Prust.

Why is he gone? Were fans, players, managers, and media just lying about Prust's qualities? I guess they must have been. I mean the proof is in the pudding right? He's gone so the Rangers must not have liked Prust at all. Based on your stupid f*cking bigjoke logic, that's got to be the case.

OR JUST F*CKING MAYBE

Like with Carkner, the economics of the game changed things and both players (who were very appreciated by their clubs) moved on.

That couldn't possibly be it, could it?

This post is ridiculous! To compare Prust who took a regular shift and was a great penalty killer and checker and played every Rangers playoff game, every 3rd period, every overtime in the playoffs with a fringe 7th defenseman is nuts!
Where was Carkner during Ottawa's most important game of the season which was game 7 of the playoffs?

In a suit eating popcorn!

That's how important that he was!

Ottawa also offered him a ONE YEAR DEAL!

Sather offered Prust 3 years at 6 million which was fair and reasonable! He was able to get 4 years at 10 million!

A ONE YEAR CONTRACT OFFER TELLS US ALOT ABOUT WHAT OTTAWA THOUGHT OF CARKNER!


I just looked and Prust played 14 minutes and 32 seconds in game 7 against Ottawa in the playoffs!
He averaged 12 minutes during the regular season and yet in game 7 Torts played him almost 3 minutes longer!

Carkner was in a suit scratching his nuts in the pressbox asking for the popcorn!

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by bigjack

This post is ridiculous! To compare Prust who took a regular shift and was a great penalty killer and checker and played every Rangers playoff game, every 3rd period, every overtime in the playoffs with a fringe 7th defenseman is nuts!
Where was Carkner during Ottawa's most important game of the season which was game 7 of the playoffs?

In a suit eating popcorn!

That's how important that he was!

Ottawa also offered him a ONE YEAR DEAL!

Sather offered Prust 3 years at 6 million which was fair and reasonable! He was able to get 4 years at 10 million!

A ONE YEAR CONTRACT OFFER TELLS US ALOT ABOUT WHAT OTTAWA THOUGHT OF CARKNER!

Sorry joke. Proof is in the pudding. Prust is gone because nobody in the Rangers organization felt he was useful. If he played all those valuable minutes for you last year, why won't he be doing it again next year?

NOT BRINGING PRUST BACK TELLS US A LOT ABOUT WHAT NEW YORK THOUGHT ABOUT PRUST.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

Sorry joke. Proof is in the pudding. Prust is gone because nobody in the Rangers organization felt he was useful. If he played all those valuable minutes for you last year, why won't he be doing it again next year?

NOT BRINGING PRUST BACK TELLS US A LOT ABOUT WHAT NEW YORK THOUGHT ABOUT PRUST.

No use commenting with this ignorant and ridiculous statement! Prust was offered 3 years by Sather at a great raise! He made $800,000 last year and was gonna get brought up to $2,000,000 a year! That is more than Boyle received last year when he scored 21 goals and 35 points as Prust's linemate!
Stop with your bullsh*t!
From the fans to the coaches and Sather all love Prust but can't justify paying him 2.5 million a year when a guy like Stepan makes $800,000 and scored 51 points last year!
Torts and Prust spoke last night for a while and each loves the other!
Prust wrote about that today and said Sather is great also but he can't turn down 10 million dollars!


Prust quote:



Prust, 28, who made $800,000 last season, said he got an offer from Montreal he couldn’t refuse.

“I talked to Torts (John Tortorella) today. . . I know we both like each other, and we both wanted to come back, but in the end, the (Rangers) just weren’t really there or anywhere close to where Montreal was,” Prust said via conference call from his hometown of London, Ontario.

3 years and 6 million up from $800,000 is fair and prudent!

4 years and 10 million is ridiculous but I can't blame Prust! That is 4 million more dollars!

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by bigjack

no use commenting with this ignorant and ridiculous statement! Prust was offered 3 years by sather at a great raise! He made $800,000 last year and was gonna get brought up to $2,000,000 a year! That is more than boyle received last year when he scored 21 goals and 35 points as prust's linemate!
Stop with your bullsh*t!
From the fans to the coaches and sather all love prust but can't justify paying him 2.5 million a year when a guy like stepan makes $800,000 and scored 51 points last year!
Torts and prust spoke last night for a while and each loves the other!
Prust wrote about that today and said sather is great also but he can't turn down 10 million dollars!

Not bringing Prust back tells us a lot about what New York thought about Prust.

[bigjack]

It's called having a budget and a Cap and having a young team with many raises soon to come to young excellent talent!
Intelligent hockey fans get that and understand it! They took two polls in NY papers and overwhelmingly everyone loves Prust but agreed with Sather that 10 million over 4 years was excessive!
I haven't read or heard one player, coach, or upper management say one bad word about Prust and everyone wanted him back!

To say otherwise is stupid and ignorant!

Case Closed!

Prust confirmed that in his quote obviously!

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by bigjack

it's called having a budget and a cap and having a young team with many raises soon to come to young excellent talent!
Intelligent hockey fans get that and understand it! They took two polls in ny papers and overwhelmingly everyone loves prust but agreed with sather that 10 million over 4 years was excessive!
I haven't read or heard one player, coach, or upper management say one bad word about prust and everyone wanted him back!

To say otherwise is stupid and ignorant!

Case closed!

Prust confirmed that in his quote obviously!

Not bringing Prust back tells us a lot about what new york thought about Prust.

Case closed!

[pesadillamal]

Come on Jack. This was about an incident, not overall value to a team. Carkner not being welcomed back doesn't mean anything. What he did that game was obviously well appreciated by his team and coach, not to mention many fans of many teams, including some Rangers fans.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

Not bringing Prust back tells us a lot about what new york thought about Prust.

Checkmate.

Why does this bother you so much, BJ?

[Gtrain15]

Originally Posted by bigjack

It's called having a budget and a Cap and having a young team with many raises soon to come to young excellent talent!
Intelligent hockey fans get that and understand it! They took two polls in NY papers and overwhelmingly everyone loves Prust but agreed with Sather that 10 million over 4 years was excessive!
I haven't read or heard one player, coach, or upper management say one bad word about Prust and everyone wanted him back!

To say otherwise is stupid and ignorant!

Case Closed!

Prust confirmed that in his quote obviously!

Agreed,people can say what they want about his punching power,but he was always a willing combatant.He was a huge utility, excellent PK and lead the league in shortys one year. 2.5mil a year?He deserves every penny if they re signed him

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

Come on Jack. This was about an incident, not overall value to a team. Carkner not being welcomed back doesn't mean anything. What he did that game was obviously well appreciated by his team and coach, not to mention many fans of many teams, including some Rangers fans.

You tell me where the Rangers and NY didn't want Prust back? There is alot of young Rangers talent who will be getting raises in the next year to two and in order to keep all those players, Sather needs to budget where he can and save to afford to keep the younger players! Any intelligent hockey fan knows that! He offered Prust a very fair and generous raise and Prust was able to get alot more. With 99% of the athletes, it's all about the money!
Guys like Brodeur to his credit wasn't about the money and was more about winning and sharing the budget so his team could keep as many of the core as was possible to continue to win!
Most times we see athletes take the best offer and then realize that opps I am making more money but playing with sh*t!
It's ridiculous for BO to make some claim that Prust is gone because NY didn't want him!
That is just stupid!