The Los Angeles Kings Official 2010 - 2011 Thread

[NickDoh]

Originally Posted by lakingsfan19

Lombardi has been real quite these first two days of july. Did he direct all of his attention to Kovalchuk and screw himself out of other signings? Last reports say, Kings unsure where they stand with Kovalchuk. He is wanting 10 mil over 9 years, that's way too much. I am also hearing a lot of chatter about the Kings making an offer to Bobby Ryan if Kovalchuk doesn't happen. What are the consequences of doing that? Ryan at 5.5 mil for 5 years? Doesn't seem that bad, but giving ducks 3 first rounders????? Ouch!!!

im anti-duck so freakin' bad beyond a guy like OD whos just awesome. but at this point id take ryan on the kings! that felt wrong typing.

they need to do something.

the kings have some holes to fill that are bigger than youd think. if an offensive point producer doesnt come in; their entire point production will rely on williams-kopitar-smyth somehow staying healthy an entire season. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

then itll be young guys filling spots like frolovs and the team will be ridiculously young and inexperienced and you might as well hit reset on the whole "5 year plan" thing. i mean i expect simmonds to get even better, brown to improve upon last year, and a young guy to step up. handzus of course will continue to be the man. i just dont want smyth and williams to have to bee first liners... theyre fragile.

they HAVE to make a move BEFORE the season, no "we'll see whos available at the trade deadline".

goaltending will be solid barring a trade of one of them... which might end up being necessary as FAs disappear and obtaining an offensive player will rely on OTHER teams needs via trade.

then the D is mildly thin at this point. doughty will have to never leave the ice. i mean we got solid enough players for top two pairings but one more solid player would be nice and one more subtle name whos been around. two more guys on d basically. i know its a scary name but at this point mitchell is the best fit left in my opinion... he cant be expensive at all at this point. sign him for two years. then just have a couple guys in the system compete for 6 and 7. i fear having to see a bunch of harrold and drewiskie.

i dunno, im done staring at twitter and keeping a hawks eye on everything. i have to believe the kings will get it right, theres too much at stake. this team is poised for great things!

i should just wait for frolov to sign somewhere and switch teams

[lakingsfan19]

Originally Posted by NickDoh

i should just wait for frolov to sign somewhere and switch teams

LOL!

I think you will hang yourself if the rumors floating around the web come true. Simmonds & Bernier to Philly??? Can't happen, but Simmonds name is being mentioned the most. For Gagne.

We will have to have NickDoh on suicide watch.

[NickDoh]

Blasphemy!!!!

[NickDoh]

i think you may have called it lakingsfan19 with dean lombardi putting all his attention on ilya. and now that it appears ilya turned the kings down... dean is sitting there empty handed and with 30-40 less people to choose from because theyve signed elsewhere...

hopefully this next week is active for the kings but also doesnt result in a retarded trade.

like i said a day or two ago, i HAVE to believe theyll get it right...

[lakingsfan19]

Well the Offer is public now. This was the offer from Lombardi to Kovalchuk.

13-year offer at $6.5 million a season.

I am sure he laughed at it when it was offered. Lakingsnut hit it on the head, that's a pretty low ball offer. I guess Lombardi thought the 13 years was a good idea. I was hearing an offer around 7 mil, so it wasn't that far off. I just don't understand why Lobardi didn't make a 7-7.5 for 6-7 years? Looks like a lot of people around the NHL are starting to laugh at the offer and Kings organization. Just what we need, more players thinking the team is a Joke.

I hope Lombardi has a back up plan or maybe this was part of his big scheme that will work out for us....

[NickDoh]

damn, thats cheap from even MY view lol. i wanted under 7.5 but was expecting and comfortable with 8... dean lombardi never dissapoints... expect doughty to get offered 4.5 next year and leave lol.

[lakingsfan19]

I want to still know why the hell Modin and Halpern's name is still on the roster and Fros isn't? They are UFAs just like Fro. Also Jones is still on there as well. What the fack??

We better not of offered Kovi that low ball deal and then resign Modin and Halpern And Jones

[NickDoh]

its just plain absurd at this point. i keep waking up every morning expecting something to have happened. i hope they do SOMETHING this week, anything really. just so i can get some satisfaction. im off to michigan for two weeks come monday and wont be around a computer really, itd be nice to have a piece of news before then!

[lakingsfan19]

I am going back to my thinking ways of Hammond being a Joke. He only lets you post things that won't make him look like a jack azz. The Kings organization breaks stories to everyone else besides him. His information is normally hours if not days old. I posted on his site about Millard saying Kovalchuk will sign in LA. 20 mins later, my post is no where to be found and he now has this... I am aware of the reports... BLAh Blah Blah... He is a joke.....

[NickDoh]

yeah, there wasnt really "news" after the trade deadline and the kings run to the playoffs and frolov was playing decent... so i think we all forgot/forgave his delayed news and frolov bashing. only now with this free agency BS are we being made aware of his faults again.

who knows really whats going on one way or another (the4thperiod is calling the rumor 'inaccurate' right now) but he really just tries to stay out of it and post things late. and he apparently has NO sources within the kings lol. i think heidi androl could get info quicker than him if she wanted.

its clear kings fans want somewhere to talk, itd be nice if it was a little more useful.

in regard to hammond: he leaves a lot to be desired as a fan
in regard to the current rumors: fingers crossed!

[lakingsfan19]

Well looking at the Kings roster, there are a lot of moves that need to be done.

First of all we should remove Halpern's name from the roster and shouldn't even think about resigning that piece of trash to an extension. Then we should send a message to the Bolts and say thanks for the trash you sent us last year, but at least you took worthless Purcell off our hands.

Next, Modien needs to remove as well. The thought of him getting a extension makes me sick as well. I don't want his old as$ taking up a roster spot that Clifford could have.

Jones, needs to be as far away from the Kings as possible!!! Not much more to say, Dean would be pretty stupid if he resigns him.

Defense:
So were does that leave us? We have 2 "D" spots that are open and you figure they would carry 1 extra D-man on the roster. So who is the 3 that will make the team? ALEC MARTINEZ is not the answer!!! I would say Davis Drewiske is going to be #6 or 7. I still see the Kings needing to get a #5 defenseman either by trade or free angency. For the other guy that will split time with Drewisiki, it will be between Colten Teubert, Jake Muzzin, or Viatcheslav Voynov.

Forwards:
We have lots of spots open. Dean will still get someone via trade or free angency. He might bring in two. I still think Clifford will make the team this year, the organization loves him. Not too sure if Schenn will make it this season, but most likley next year. Westgarth will be up for the enforcer. Clune is coming back. The only question is??? Who is Dean going to deal for or sign in free angency. This Kovalchuk stuff is ridiculous, but Lombardi has to be carefull with his decision, it can decide the fate of the Kings future.

Goalies..
Quick and Bernier. Enough said. Anything else would be stupid. Ersberg should be gone or sent down. I have faith that Lombardi isn't stupid and understands that if Bernier was up last year to share the load with Quick, we might have won that first round.

Either way, Kovalchuk or no Kovalchuk, Dean has some work to do.

Thoughts from other King fans????

Edit: Modien and Halpern have been removed!!!! Now just waiting on Jones!

[lakingsfan19]

Kings kovalchuk update...

Petros and Money reporting 15 years/80 million for Kovalchuk deal getting close...

Helene is also reporting

nothing--repeat nothing--is finalized yet btween kings and kovalchuk, club official says. still issues to be settled, apparently (more) over bonus/salary in 2012-13 season and maybe over no trade/no movement clauses and how deep into the deal a clause would kick in.

http://twitter.com/helenenothelen

And Hammond isn't reporting anything.. Whats new?

[lakingsfan19]

Kings GM Dean Lombardi talks about missing out on Ilya Kovalchuk

An interview by reporter Jonathan Davis with Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi following the news Ilya Kovalchuk had signed a 17-year, $102-million deal with the New Jersey Devils Monday, July 19.

Jonathan Davis: When did you find out that Kovalchuk had signed with the Devils?
Dean Lombardi: Jay Grossman called me around 8 a.m. this morning.

JD: What was your reaction?
DL: I was dissapointed having gone through the process. There is so much that one goes through these days in having to put together a deal like this. This was a process that started 15 days ago. A lot of hard work. I have no regrets. It was worth the time and effort.

JD: Was it going to take $100 million to sign Kovalchuk?
DL: That was the number that was out there since Day 1. We didn't want to go there. We were trying to figure out how close we could get. We were in the $80 million territory. We put together a contract that would see him play 'til he was 40. We looked at guys like Luc (Robitaille), Yzerman, Messier and took a look at how old they were when they were still productive. We felt 40 was pretty accurate. We didn't want a contract that would go beyond his "true" playing years.

JD: Is losing out on Kovalchuk a "setback" for this organization?
DL: This was the first time I felt we as an organization were ready to bring on a player of this caliber. We as an organization are at the point where I hoped we would be entering this season. Would a player like this potentially bring us to the next level? Yes. So if you want to call it a setback, I understand, but I am comfortable where we are and where we are going. This team has superstars in the making in Doughty and Kopitar. Yes, Kovalchuk could help to elevate their game, but I also believe that both these guys are ready to take their game to a new level.

JD: Are you concerned about any backlash from the fans for not making this deal happen?
DL: I had more fans telling me not to do this deal. There was concern that he wasn't the right fit, especially for the money.

JD: With all the time devoted to Kovalchuk and not being sure on what potential dollars would be involved did you miss out on filling other needs via free agency?
DL: Not really. The only guy that I would have liked to have signed was that blueliner who went to Pittsburgh (Paul Martin).

JD: You have said to me in the past that you would like to improve at the center position and you still need help on the left wing. Is it time to play, "Let's make a deal"?
DL: I will always explore the trade options. The one thing I will say is that I am most impressed with the progress of Brayden Schenn and Andrei Loktionov. They both have the potential to be second line centers. They may not be ready quite yet, but they will push the vets in camp this year.

JD: With Kovalchuk out of the picture, does that mean Alexander Frolov could be back in the picture?
DL: (laughs) Good question! Let me put it this way. We will look at all of our options. He has a better chance than he did 15 days ago. We just have to see.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...Kovalchuk.html

[NickDoh]

Originally Posted by NickDoh

i should just wait for frolov to sign somewhere and switch teams

the rangers it is!

haha...

well the negative:

• i guarantee frolov has DOUBLE the points ponikarovsky gets in 2010-2011
• ivanans will be a top 10 heavy next season
• its looking like we'll be relying on the richardsons and parses of the world to double up on already decent seasons
• simmonds will have to emerge as a top winger
• the d might have holes

BUT theres still time for moves. i just hope they dont focus too much on the big star. there just isnt anybody available versus people worth losing. nobody wants smyth or williams. and stoll serves a purpose. i want a damn higher end stay at home dman. i think thats the most worthwhile "big" move. goaltending will be SICK next year, just have to limit shots. the goofy rag tag offense we have (with another ponikarovsky level addition) will be good enough to win games 3-1.

so in a perfect world, i want them to get the dman, get another depth forward. let murray shuffle lines for half a season with mediocre results. fire his ass, new coach ignites the team and they make the playoffs off great play by one of the tenders and fizzle early... then ****ING SIGN SOMEBODY BIG VIA FREE AGENCYGFUISHGILKJgmold;sjghosl;,bg...

are we really already saying 2011-2012?

[lakingsfan19]

We might be in a bit of trouble. Barry is reporting Greene has to have surgery and will be out 3-4 months. Another d-man bites the dust. Reports say the Kings are trying to get Kaberle, but Burke wants too much. Kings willing to give Moller not Schenn (I hope that part is true).

Another report says there is interest in Bieksa, but his cost might be real high.

Another name coming up is Andy Sutton.

They need to do something if Greene is out for the first month of the season.

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More news.... Westgarth is also hurt. He just had surgery on his hand and will be out the start of the season as well.

Barry also seems to think the Kings are trying to get Carcillo away from the Flyers again. I don't understand why the Kings would be trying to get Carcillo, when we have two players just like him in the system (Clifford and Clune).

Anyways, a bit of more bad news for kings fans to say the least...