Who Is The Toughest Team 2013

[rbl2010]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

This Orr injury could bring the Leafs back down to the pack. The team is playing like they are ten feet tall when he is in there. Not so sure things will be the same without him.

Hope not because for the most part of the game, it seemed that way - Scrivens knocked around...

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by rbl2010

Please note Brawls prophecy was pre-game. Leafs dominate, again.

Slow your roll there rbl...

Yeah, McLaren got the nod in the only fight.... but "dominate" ? Really? Browns isn't force the issue with Kaleta, and then was invisible while Kaleta continued to run around. Scrivens was hit more than once with no retaliation . Fraser made no noise....There were good hits back and forth. Even the midget stood up to the Goof. I'm not saying that the Sabres are as tough as / tougher than the leafs, but there certainly was no "domination".

[rbl2010]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Slow your roll there rbl...

Yeah, McLaren got the nod in the only fight.... but "dominate" ? Really? Browns isn't force the issue with Kaleta, and then was invisible while Kaleta continued to run around. Scrivens was hit more than once with no retaliation . Fraser made no noise....There were good hits back and forth. Even the midget stood up to the Goof. I'm not saying that the Sabres are as tough as / tougher than the leafs, but there certainly was no "domination".

Fair enough Jack. Dominate was a strong word for tonight (although not for the season so far), but seeing McLaren survive/beat Scott combined with a Leafs win against Buffalo, that's how it felt. I loved the midget standing up to the Goof and had he punched him out, I probably wouldn't have posted much (Leafs fan after all) but would have cracked another beer. I was responding more to mathematical equation stuff going on about the toughest team, so we're on the same page. I was very disappointed that Brown didn't drop the gloves and start throwing, but that doesn't change my overall opinion of current toughness. Scott drops Orr or McLaren, the Leafs stop playing as tough, then my opinion changes. But based on play, not hypothesis.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by rbl2010

Fair enough Jack. Dominate was a strong word for tonight (although not for the season so far), but seeing McLaren survive/beat Scott combined with a Leafs win against Buffalo, that's how it felt. I loved the midget standing up to the Goof and had he punched him out, I probably wouldn't have posted much (Leafs fan after all) but would have cracked another beer. I was responding more to mathematical equation stuff going on about the toughest team, so we're on the same page. I was very disappointed that Brown didn't drop the gloves and start throwing, but that doesn't change my overall opinion of current toughness. Scott drops Orr or McLaren, the Leafs stop playing as tough, then my opinion changes. But based on play, not hypothesis.

Fair enough! I also think that the Leafs are at the top of the ladder.

One thing ( other than the choice of the word dominate ) that I will take exception with is that it is somehow an accomplishment to beat the Sabres on the scoreboard. They are just plain bad in so many areas right now.

[rbl2010]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Fair enough! I also think that the Leafs are at the top of the ladder.

One thing ( other than the choice of the word dominate ) that I will take exception with is that it is somehow an accomplishment to beat the Sabres on the scoreboard. They are just plain bad in so many areas right now.

Perhaps now, but I spent years going Sabres/Leafs games in Buffalo. So to me it is an accomplishment to beat Buffalo on the scoreboard.

We'd start at Washington Square for wings and beer, then off to the game, to watch Rob Ray and Domi fight, and inevitably it ended with a Leafs loss. Always fun, but consistent outcome. Good fights, but the Leafs would always lose the game. Over time, Buffalo became my 2nd favourite team so I am delighted you have Scott onboard.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by rbl2010

Perhaps now, but I spent years going Sabres/Leafs games in Buffalo. So to me it is an accomplishment.

We'd start at Washington Square for wings and beer, then off to the game, to watch Rob Ray and Domi fight, and inevitably it ended with a Leafs loss. Always fun, but consistent outcome. Good fights, but the Leafs would always lose the game.

Ahhhhh.... Washington Square! That's a blast from the past! Ray and Domi... One of the best rivalries of all time IMO !

Cheers !

[Muffin_Cakes]

Originally Posted by yohan

Is it bostons fault their best fighters are their best players? I take Thornton, lucic ,chara, mcqaid , macdermid (I see him playing good minutes soon) ,horton over torontos toughness all day every day.

All power to you. I'll take the Leafs 2-0 record against John Scott vs. the Bruins 0-1 ass kicking by him plus them playing soft since.

McLaren's win over Scott pretty much solidifies that Leafs > Bruins. Only a retarded Bruins homer would think otherwise.

[rbl2010]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Ahhhhh.... Washington Square! That's a blast from the past! Ray and Domi... One of the best rivalries of all time IMO !

Cheers !

Same brother! For all the cr_p you hear about some buffalo fans, here's a true story of class. In 1998/99 season my wife and I (who is very pregnant) are at a game where Domi and Ray go at least twice. On the trolley from the rink back to the Washington Square, a Buffalo fan gives her a seat. Meanwhile I have a Domi jersey on, and am standing right at the door, a guy in a Ray jersey with about 10 friends around him says to me: "So how safe do you feel leaning on the door after that?" So I say "not too FN good - in fact I'm kind of nervous" "I have a pregnant wife and we need to get back to Canada but I'd be happy to reschedule this at your convenience"....All of them laughed, got off at Washington Square, had beers, laughed some more and to this day I defend Buffalo fans every time someone sh_ts on them.

[brawls16]

No Orr? No problem! The Leafs will still fight Scott with their Top Enforcer injured.

But sure, Bruins are tougher...(as Thornton still hasn't fought since getting dummied by Scott.)

[Tucker_316]

To be fair there brawls, not sure if it'd be wise to fight a guy of scotts size after having suffered a concussion. It's not like Thornton has tried to fight anyone else since.

[pesadillamal]

Thornton challenged Asham last week.

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by brawls16

No Orr? No problem! The Leafs will still fight Scott with their Top Enforcer injured.

But sure, Bruins are tougher...(as Thornton still hasn't fought since getting dummied by Scott.)

Here's some math for ya that's actually a fact...

Last night the Leafs had 3 guys in their line up that can fight. The Bruins had 7 guys that can fight.

What number is bigger?

Do you need my neighbor here to help you?




The team with the most guys that can fight is the tougher team, not the team with 1 tough guy and 2 middleweights...

FACT!

[WBC8]

Bruins are nowhere close to the toughest team in the league anymore.

I've seen Hamilton and Paille elbowed in the face, Krejci boarded, my goalie run into 6 times in one game...and that's just vs the Sabres. I saw MacDermid fight the Leafs 3rd best fighter instead of stepping up in weight...

The highlight of my season fight wise vs Carkner vs Lucic. I've seen Lucic draw with Gleason...Thornton get pummeled by Scott...Campbell pummelled by Bickel and Kaleta..Bruins have played 7 games in Feb. and only fought in two of them.

They refuse to dictate anything or try to intimidate... I can't even get a ****ing McQuaid-Crombeen tilt for cryin out loud. Maybe I'm spoiled, but record aside (its hockeyfights.com so I don't give a **** about record) this Bruins squad is a major disappointment in the fight game.

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by WBC8

Bruins are nowhere close to the toughest team in the league anymore.

I've seen Hamilton and Paille elbowed in the face, Krejci boarded, my goalie run into 6 times in one game...and that's just vs the Sabres. I saw MacDermid fight the Leafs 3rd best fighter instead of stepping up in weight...

The highlight of my season fight wise vs Carkner vs Lucic. I've seen Lucic draw with Gleason...Thornton get pummeled by Scott...Campbell pummelled by Bickel and Kaleta..Bruins have played 7 games in Feb. and only fought in two of them.

They refuse to dictate anything or try to intimidate... I can't even get a ****ing McQuaid-Crombeen tilt for cryin out loud. Maybe I'm spoiled, but record aside (its hockeyfights.com so I don't give a **** about record) this Bruins squad is a major disappointment in the fight game.

Playing tough and being tough are two separate things. If Lucic doesn't fight for the rest of season, does that make his fighting ability diminish?

This isn't "who's playing the toughest today" it's "who's the toughest team in 2013".

Maybe I'm wrong, but that means which team has the most guys on the roster that can fight. As far as overall roster, it's still the Bruins.

And the reason they're not fighting much is strictly because they're winning. They've lost to ONE team this year in regulation and ONE team in overtime.

Why mess with that?

[WBC8]

Originally Posted by cookie monster

Playing tough and being tough are two separate things. If Lucic doesn't fight for the rest of season, does that make his fighting ability diminish?

This isn't "who's playing the toughest today" it's "who's the toughest team in 2013".

Maybe I'm wrong, but that means which team has the most guys on the roster that can fight. As far as overall roster, it's still the Bruins.

And the reason they're not fighting much is strictly because they're winning. They've lost to ONE team this year in regulation and ONE team in overtime.

Why mess with that?

Bruins used to play by the rule,. you beat them AND you beat them up. The Bruins used to absolutely freight train the Leafs and Sabres last year...Now this year, those two teams hit back and for the Bruins all of a sudden it's "all about the 2 points"... Bull ****. Thats called picking your spots. It's OK to beat up the Jets, Habs, Canes....but it's all about the two points now vs the tough teams? Gimme a break. "Fans" don't have a problem when Lucic is ragdolling Kaleta, but he's too valuable to fight Scott. Chara could break his hand, but it's fine when he beats up Jay Harrison or Mike Rupp.

I don't care about the perceived "toughest" roster. Show me on the ice. I'm not into resting on my laurels. Bruins had plenty of chance to act vs Buffalo, who were taking runs by the way, and they did nothing and still wound up losing the ****ing game.