Who Is The Toughest Team 2013

[slashtrey]

Originally Posted by king of culver

against chicago you will see what i am talking about two strides forward no steps back against the kings blackhawks get wacked

The Kings are lucky they don't play in the Eastern Conference. They would get physically destroyed every single night. They're a weak team in terms of toughness.

[brymaster1]

Originally Posted by slashtrey

The Kings are lucky they don't play in the Eastern Conference. They would get physically destroyed every single night. They're a weak team in terms of toughness.

They don't play in the east though, so it doesn't make much sense being one of two teams playing a true enforcer. Other than Gratts, there really is nobody in the west with a heavyweight. Sadly, in the west, the Kings are as tough if not tougher than the majority of the teams. During the kings televised practice Dean talked about the trade of Westy and he legit seemed disappointed. Good thing center ice is free this year, I'll be watching a lot of eastern conference games.

[slashtrey]

Still, if the Kings wanted they could dress a tough lineup, forcing all of their opponents to follow suit or get thrashed in the hitting and fighting departments. It's a chain reaction.

[brymaster1]

Originally Posted by slashtrey

Still, if the Kings wanted they could dress a tough lineup, forcing all of their opponents to follow suit or get thrashed in the hitting and fighting departments. It's a chain reaction.

I think they will probably be near the leaders in the west with hits. Brown is always top 2-3 in the league, and Greene was one of the top hitters for Dmen last year. Throw in Nolan who Nolan, stewart, Richards and Clifford who can all throw the body pretty damn well and there you go. But like you said, fighting, well fighting is a different story.

[Phila26Flyers]

The Kings are soft, no matter how anyone justifies it.

The fact that this part of the conversation started by comparing the Kings and Bruins toughness is hilarious.

The Kings are more on the Vancouver Canucks end of things.

[brymaster1]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

The Kings are soft, no matter how anyone justifies it.

The fact that this part of the conversation started by comparing the Kings and Bruins toughness is hilarious.

The Kings are more on the Vancouver Canucks end of things.

Lets be fair, the person who compared them to the Bruins probably didn't know about the Kings until he watched their road to the Stanley Cup documentary.

And that is just a little bit insulting, I'll take Clifford, Nolan, and maybe Stewart(if he plays like he said he was going to), over who Weise and and the guy who got dropped by kostopoulos(Bieksa), and the guy who ran from Clifford last year(Ballard)? the only one who would be able to do much is Vandy, and I don't see him playing much in the NHL. Compared to the east yeah the Kings are a pretty weak team, but the west is a completely different story.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by brymaster1

Lets be fair, the person who compared them to the Bruins probably didn't know about the Kings until he watched their road to the Stanley Cup documentary.

And that is just a little bit insulting, I'll take Clifford, Nolan, and maybe Stewart(if he plays like he said he was going to), over who Weise and and the guy who got dropped by kostopoulos(Bieksa), and the guy who ran from Clifford last year(Ballard)? the only one who would be able to do much is Vandy, and I don't see him playing much in the NHL. Compared to the east yeah the Kings are a pretty weak team, but the west is a completely different story.

I'm just giving king of english a hard time. No one is Vancouver soft.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

I'm just giving king of english a hard time. No one is Vancouver soft.

They did pick up Vandy though!

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

They did pick up Vandy though!

Would have been relevant after the last lockout.

[steg1989]

I hate when people classify toughest team, by running a list of players that fight...does anyone watch how certain teams play anymore? Bruins/Flyers/Rangers will be my examples...neither team takes anyone's **** and each player on those teams has each others backs. Those are tough teams... Dare I go a step further and just state that those are THE ONLY tough teams?

[slashtrey]

Originally Posted by steg1989

I hate when people classify toughest team, by running a list of players that fight...does anyone watch how certain teams play anymore? Bruins/Flyers/Rangers will be my examples...neither team takes anyone's **** and each player on those teams has each others backs. Those are tough teams... Dare I go a step further and just state that those are THE ONLY tough teams?

Watch for the Islanders to put themselves on that list with some tough play.

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by steg1989

I hate when people classify toughest team, by running a list of players that fight...does anyone watch how certain teams play anymore? Bruins/Flyers/Rangers will be my examples...neither team takes anyone's **** and each player on those teams has each others backs. Those are tough teams... Dare I go a step further and just state that those are THE ONLY tough teams?

The Bruins don't take anyone ****?

How about Randy Jones, Matt Hunwick, Derek Engelland, Jody Shelly, Tom Sestito and Aaron Rome?

They did take care of that heavyweight Matt Cooke, but what about all the other concussions that went unpunished?

They beat up the Sutherbys and Burrushes of the world, but Jody Shelly didn't even get a harsh word when he almost killed Adam McQuaid.

To quote my good friend Big Jack...."very telling".

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by cookie monster

The Bruins don't take anyone ****?

How about Randy Jones, Matt Hunwick, Derek Engelland, Jody Shelly, Tom Sestito and Aaron Rome?

They did take care of that heavyweight Matt Cooke, but what about all the other concussions that went unpunished?

They beat up the Sutherbys and Burrushes of the world, but Jody Shelly didn't even get a harsh word when he almost killed Adam McQuaid.

To quote my good friend Big Jack...."very telling".

They fought Shelley and Sestito. And they haven't had a game against Rome since the Cup playoffs.

Your exaggeration is very telling!

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

They fought Shelley and Sestito. And they haven't had a game against Rome since the Cup playoffs.

Your exaggeration is very telling!

Lucic fought Sestito BEFORE he laid out Hornton (a fight instigated by Sestito) and no Bruin so much as looked at him that whole game after the hit.

No Bruin went near Shelly after he hit McQuaid. He's has fought Thornton a few times (not as revenge, but as a typical "staged fight") and fought Chara after Shelly started with him off a face off.

What about Jones, Hunwick and Engelland?...I'll give the Bruins a pass on Rome, but history shows that the Bruins would've just "let the league handle it“ anyways.

Your revisionist history is very telling...

Fun fact...Milan "killer" Lucic was on the ice for the Cooke on Savard hit, the Sestito on Horton hit, the Engelland on Savard hit and the Rome on Horton hit and did NOTHING each time.

But if Ryan Miller or Tim Wallace gets out of line, LOOCH well take care of business.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by cookie monster

Lucic fought Sestito BEFORE he laid out Hornton (a fight instigated by Sestito) and no Bruin so much as looked at him that whole game after the hit.

No Bruin went near Shelly after he hit McQuaid. He's has fought Thornton a few times (not as revenge, but as a typical "staged fight") and fought Chara after Shelly started with him off a face off.

What about Jones, Hunwick and Engelland?...I'll give the Bruins a pass on Rome, but history shows that the Bruins would've just "let the league handle it“ anyways.

Your revisionist history is very telling...

Fun fact...Milan "killer" Lucic was on the ice for the Cooke on Savard hit, the Sestito on Horton hit, the Engelland on Savard hit and the Rome on Horton hit and did NOTHING each time.

But if Ryan Miller or Tim Wallace gets out of line, LOOCH well take care of business.

Generally, I see what your saying....they haven't been the best on the spot, I wish they had done more.

However, I thought Sestito either left the game after he hit Horton or barely played after the fact...I'd still like to see retribution but the hit didn't look that bad to me honestly.

I can't give you an explanation on Jones and Hunwick, they didn't give a **** about Savard? They could have easily despised of them but chose not too. Jones hit on Bergeron didn't look that bad to me...seemed like a freak accident.

Anyways, I can't stand another drawn out argument in this thread...so I'm not going to bother. Plus typing on a phone can get tedious.