The Top 10 Thread

[Gunslinger]

My updated list(I do'nt remember the order of my last one so cut me some slack)

1)BGL(I was gonna move him down cuz' of inactivity since the injuy and move Brash up one, but Brash has'nt done much either during that time so I'll leave it for now. BGL better be back soon though if he wants to keep this spot)
2)Brash(see above)
3)Orr(Most recent Godard victory moves him up one in my books)
4)Boogeyman(Would have been 3 if not for Orr over Godard)
5)Belak(Was gonna put Godard here but Eric lost convincingly enough for me to move him down alot. Belak has also been fairly active and getting better)
6)Godard(He drops a bunch but I still think he goes no lower than this. Will probably be top 5 again soon)
7)Shelley(Does'nt deserve to be higher due to inactivity but does'nt deserve to be lower either
8)Parros(Stays right around where I had him last time,I think!)
9)Neil(Controversial pick but he's taken on all comers and fared well, especially since outside of Bass he has'nt had much back up)
10)Cote(Controversial pick #2 here since he does'nt win much but who is more active, takes on everybody and never stops fightings until the end)


Note: I would have put Hordi 10 but he has'nt fared well lately and looks to have run out of gas. If I get ripped for dropping him I understand. I also dropped Ivanans and replaced him with Neil cuz' when was the last time he did anything. To me, inactivity is like being injured, if your playing, then fight.
Anyone elses input is always welcome.

Note 2: Thornton, Peters,Boulton , just have'nt shown me enough to move them in although an arguement could be made for Peters at 9 or 10(Those two picks are gonna kill me!). Outside of BGL(who's gonna start dropping soon), injuries(long term or not) or being sent to the minors for long periods(Fritz) do'nt mean I'm gonna hold your spot.

Originally Posted by nyislesfan45

Belaks beaten Orr.

Orr has beaten Belak.

[bobberino]

1 Brash
2 BGL
3 Orr
4 Boogaard
5 Godard
6 Belak
7 Shelley
8 Parros
9 Hordi
10 Ivanans

Nothing in Stone

[fightingfan]

Originally Posted by BStreetBullies

This simy first list all season I believe. It has taken me a while to get this together, and I figure I'd wait til most fights that need to happen for this list happen, and most have, and some still go unsolved, but that's what you deal with when you make your list halfway through the season.

1) Donald Brashear
2) Georges Laraque
3) Colton Orr
4) Eric Godard
5) Wade Belak
6) Derek Boogaard
7) Jody Shelley
8) George Parros
9) Mitch Fritz
10) Michael Rupp


IMO, this is a very shaky list, that with a few more fights, would help me shape the list into something concrete.

First, I'll start off with #'s 1 and 2 Big Brash and Big BGL. BGL has fought with his groin all season, and to be honest, a draw with Shawn Thornton and an edge out from Mitch Fritz sin't really the way to make your case for #1 over a guy like Donald Brashear who has constantly been nipping at your heels. Esepcially when you have Donald being his normal consistant self. although he doesn't have the most impressive card this season, a card that inlcudes him bullying up rookie Zack Bogosian and roughing up a smaller Krys Barch. But this season he really made his mark, by reminding the league just how dangerous he can be by turning Riley Cote into a heavy bag just a few weeks back. He also edged out Jody Shelley in a doozy of a tilt, but all in all, IMO, Brash has the better season as opposed to BGL's dismal season.

This is where we get to #3, Colton Orr, which is the same exact spot I had him last season. IMO, Orr hasn't done anything to lose his spot this season. He may have been edged out by the stubborn style of Michael Rupp, but with 2 impressive wins against a revamped Eric Godard, and a bloody mess of a fight with Mitch Fritz, he has solidified his #3 spot. He hasn't had too much activity this season, and IMO, his season isn't nearly as impressive as his last, but he has done what is expected of him, and because Godard was unable to edge him out, Orr keeps his spot.

Which brings me to #4, Eric Godard. Godard, has IMO, a very impressive season. Between his standing TKO of Riley Cote in an impressive FOTY candidate bout, and his dismantling of the young up-and-comer Steve MacIntyre's face, he has done one Hell of a job, enforcing for a Pittsburgh Penguins' team, who's 2nd tier fighter might as well be Sydney Crosby. IMO, Eric has resurged in his enforcing duties, and has done well for himself, now if he could just figure out Orr, we could put him at #3.

Standing strong at #5, is Wade Belak, who has had a bit of a comeback this season. From the sounds and read of it, wade has had trouble finding willing dance partners, which basically had the man packing from the Florida Panthers to the Nashville Predators. He has done well for himself over in Nashville, the main reason why I have Wade bouncing in at #5 is because of his Derek Boogaard-heavy fight card. he has 3 bouts with the BoogeyMan, taking home 2 wins from their encounters. IMO, he has the ability to be top 3, but he needs more bouts and needs to show a bit more consistancy, there is some rumblings that little big guy Cam Janssen gave him a run for his money and edged him out back in December. But nonetheless, with a little more activity, we could see what the great albino can really do.

Coming in at #6 for me is Derek Boogaard. Boogey started out a bit strong with three bouts against big man Wade Belak, losing two of them. But then he showed us that the majority of big men still fear the BoogeyMan and his big hammer, sending guys like Andre Roy and Jody Shelley to the ice, and reconstructing helmets around the league. IMO, Boogey is normally a top 3 guy, but he just hasn't scored enough bouts this season, and now there are rumblings of him dissipating to the IR list once again. With a bit more activity, Boogey is up there at #3, but whether he isn't finding enough willing partners, or just isn't forcing the issue enough, he just doesn't crack the top 3 for me this season, which IMO, is where he belongs.

Then at #7, we have Jody Shelley, who has had himself a Hell of a year, coming in at a definiteive #7, when last season he was a fringe #10 guy. He had himself a convincing win against Riley Cote early on, enforced well in a bloodbath of a game against fringe HW Greg De Vries twice in one game, not to mention one hell of a battle with Super HW Donald Brashear. He has recently come back down to earth with a loss to big man Derek Boogaard, but in my eyes, he is one damn valuable enforcer, as he is doing a Hell of a job with the San Jose Sharks, and he is being appreciated as well.

At #8, I have George Parros, a place where the Stache has comfortable found himself in the past 2 seasons. He has much improved balance and has potential to climb the ladder. He had a slight edge/draw against big Donald Brashear, a win against Riley Cote (jeez, it seems like I' saying that a lot), and a nice TKO Win against Darcy Hordichuk.

At #9, I have up-and-comer Mitch Fritz, who has a huge AHL name, and is beginning to make a name for himself up in the N. He has gone with some monsters up in the big leagues, including a bit of an edge against world-renowned champ Georges Laraque. He has been up and down all season, but IMO, he can be known as an NHL HW for the time being, he gets the call enough, and has registered enough bouts up here to hit the top 10. he has gone with the biggestt of the baddest since his call ups to the N, and he has faired pretty well IMO, and in this season's dissipated top 10 due to injuries and send downs, I believe Mitch has earned his spot at #9.

At #10, and I assure you it pains me to do this, but I have Michael Rupp. And my reasoning? You just can't argue with his card, with wins against Riley Cote, Shawn Thornton and Colton Orr, he grabs the #10 spot, hopefully when guys recover, and the big boys get their playing time, rupp will get pushed out, but for now, he is your #10 HW, I'm sorry guys.

Fall-outs:

Brian McGrattan has fallen off the grid with his lack of playing time out in Arizona, and now his current dependency problems, hopefully the big guy gets his life back on track, and hopefully back into the NHL HW scene.

D.J. King, who is usually a top 3 type HW guy, just can't make the list this season with his season-ending injury. Good luck to him coming back in full-health.

Andre Roy, who is somewhat of #10 fringe HW seems to have disappeared out in Calgary, and his shoulder problems didn't help one bit, but he is becoming more active, and could be back in the top 10 by the end of the season.

Andrew Peters, who looked to regain that umph that he needed for the top 10, seems to have misplaced it again, as he falls out, and hugs his way to the bottom of the bunch.

Riley Cote, who could bang on the door of #10 from time-to-time lost his consideration after being obliterated by Donald Brashear. He has quite an impressive card, with some huuge names on them, but he has been edged out time and time, even by the biggest of guys, but with the way he goes at it, one punch goes a different way in a few of his bouts, like the one with Eric Godard, Steve MacIntyre and Mitch Fritz, then he is easily a top ten. But with the way his season is going, it'll b tough for him to climb back up.

Shawn Thornton, after an impressive bout with Champ Georges Laraque, he has pretty much disappeared, and hasn't really done much enforcing. Jeez, you would think with the falling out of a few guys this season, both Thronton and Cote would make their names a main-stay in the top 10, but the chips just haven't fallen that way this season.

Raitis Ivanans, same complaint as many. With all the fallouts, this guy hasn't set a claim yet, just poor poor activity, with disappointing bouts against Cory Sarich, Matt Walker and Jared Boll. What's the deal with this kid, is he wearing the cuffs?

So as I said above, there are still some more fights that need to happen to help us all pan out our lists, it will most likely come down to the end of the season. But it has been a good year for fighting, it seems like everybody is doing it these days, it's the new crack, but barring injuries, my list should definitely experience a nice shake up within the next few months as divisional rivalries begin to heat up.

this is prolly the best list so far IMO

[crushconn]

Brashear
Laraque
Boogard
Fritz
Orr has the answer for a couple of heavies
Chara if he did it more, top 3
Godard - "GOD"-still up and coming
Belak - steady as always, needs to avoid Boogard
Shelley
Cote for guts and entertainment quality

[Rob666]

Originally Posted by crushconn

Brashear
Laraque
Boogard
Fritz
Orr has the answer for a couple of heavies
Chara if he did it more, top 3
Godard - "GOD"-still up and coming
Belak - steady as always, needs to avoid Boogard
Shelley
Cote for guts and entertainment quality

Why does he need to avoid Boogaard? He has fought him 3 times this season and has beaten him twice. Have you seen all 3 fights?

[JeanLaRose]

BSB, the only issue I see with your list is that you can't really consider turning Cote into a punching bag as anything special. Most HW's do that. I still have a hard time taking the belt away from BGL until someone fully unseats him. Brashear is definately the contender but all the points people make about BGL not deserving the belt are just as valid on Brashear.. they both fight a style many don't enjoy, they both lose fights they really shouldn't, they're both black... what more do you want?

All I'm saying is, I know he's had a bad season thus far but until someone fully shows me that he's not the best there is and "THE" guy to beat, BGL is still the champ in my eyes.

Thats taking nothing away from Brashear, I think he's freaking awesome but in a 10 fight series I'd have to give BGL an edge.. even this season. The guy has just been too dominant the last 5 years or so not to.

[royjonesjr]

1. Brashear
2. Laraque
3. Orr
4. Boogaard
5. Godard
6. Belak
7. Ivanans
8. Shelley
9. Rupp
10. Parros

[shaud19]

Originally Posted by royjonesjr

1. Brashear
2. Laraque
3. Orr
4. Boogaard
5. Godard
6. Belak
7. Ivanans
8. Shelley
9. Rupp
10. Parros

Don't get me wrong, BGL, is a great fighter when he's healthy, he hasn't been in a fight since the Peter's bout... high top 10...

[BStreetBullies]

Originally Posted by JeanLaRose

BSB, the only issue I see with your list is that you can't really consider turning Cote into a punching bag as anything special. Most HW's do that. I still have a hard time taking the belt away from BGL until someone fully unseats him. Brashear is definately the contender but all the points people make about BGL not deserving the belt are just as valid on Brashear.. they both fight a style many don't enjoy, they both lose fights they really shouldn't, they're both black... what more do you want?

All I'm saying is, I know he's had a bad season thus far but until someone fully shows me that he's not the best there is and "THE" guy to beat, BGL is still the champ in my eyes.

Thats taking nothing away from Brashear, I think he's freaking awesome but in a 10 fight series I'd have to give BGL an edge.. even this season. The guy has just been too dominant the last 5 years or so not to.

I'm not exactly handing the belt over to Brashear just because he beat Cote. IMO, Brash handed out the biggest beating of the season, he has also fought with a bit more consistency and has yet to lose. While BGL has done nothing but disappoint this whole season, first by barely scoring a draw with Shawn Thornton and then by being edged out by Mitch Fritz, his only decisive victory was over a very overmatched Josh Gratton. I usually start both of these guys out at zero every season, with maybe a bit of a head start to BGL because of his history, but IMO, Brash has easily earned the most points between the two, but there is plenty of time left, so we'll see.

[fightingfan]

bgl should not even be on the list if we go by this year. he does not have a win over anyone big. plus he has been injured most of the year. brash is deff number one for the year.

[Gunslinger]

Originally Posted by fightingfan

bgl should not even be on the list if we go by this year. he does not have a win over anyone big. plus he has been injured most of the year. brash is deff number one for the year.

If BGL does'nt get back soon he certainly does'nt deserve the #1 spot most of us still have him in. He may drop more than 1 spot if Brash, Orr, etc keep fighting and he is out.

[Rob666]

Originally Posted by fightingfan

bgl should not even be on the list if we go by this year. he does not have a win over anyone big. plus he has been injured most of the year. brash is deff number one for the year.

So make your own top-10 list.

[Rugged]

Originally Posted by fightingfan

brash is deff number one for the year.

Have you actually looked at his fight card for this year? I didn't think so.

[Knucklechucker]

Neither Brash or BGL deserve the number 1spot.