The Top 10 Thread

[TheBoogeyman]

Originally Posted by Plateworker

Right Now my Top ten would be

1. Brash
2. BGL


and the others
Orr most actice HW besides Parros and Cote and has the most wins, Losses to Belak, Brash and Gratts with a Draw against BGL and wins over Simon, Cote 2x and Parros could be top 3-5 for volume and wins.
Boogy who has been hurt but otherwise has had a ok/bad season for him Wins against King and May...wow and losses to Parros and Koci, draws against Godard and Shelley, thats not a top 3-5
Gratts another guy who does not play much but does a few good wins in Orr and Brash, loss to Cote hurts him but could be the 3 guy if you wanted.
Godard has more losses than wins and 2 of those 4 wins are against Greene and Murray...ewwww
Parros another guy who is very active but also has more losses than wins. 6 wins to 8 losses, losing to Downey, Thornton and Hordi do not bode well but does have some good wins against Koci and Boogy I guess you could slot him in at number 5 if you want.
Koci another guy with as many loses as wins with 2 of 3 wins coming from Stortini and Barch, decent card ok record
King with only 1 loss to Boogy is top 10 good wins against bottom 11-20 Hw's except Parros
Belak with 6 fights it is hard to qualify but has lost none of them and has wins over Orr, Parros and Koci
Ivanans has not lost yet....but has wins against no one. Stortini, McLeod, Rupp and Lucic all are in a different class MW's or are way smaller, with draws against real HW's in BGL, Koci and Parros. I don't even know what to make of that
Roy is an enigma he has not loss yet either but his 3 wins are against Cote, McIver and old man Luke, he has 7 draws, only reason he gets mentioned here is that some of the draws are against Brash, Simon, Koci, Peters is just horrid with 1 win and many losses
Stortini another horrible year
Hordichuck is a mystery as well 5 wins 2 losses both came against Koci and Brookbank his wins are against MW's except Stortini and Parros, and 2 draws with Shelley
Shelley is having well a Jody Shelley year...average at the very best. Winning against Cowan and......well thats it. he is 1-2-4 on the year
Downey has 4 wins against M.Walker, Parros, Boll and McLaren and draws against Fridge and Shelley
Cote with 17 fights he is very active, started out real bad and got somewhat better 6 wins and 10 losses, won against Peters 2x and the highlight of his season Gratts. Exciting guy though hope he sticks around

Boulton and Thornton have 4 wins between them in 15 fights with Boulton having 3 so they don't really count only one win against a HW in Cote.

So there are your guys competing for the top ten spots about 85% of them have had mediocre season including most of our favorites, this season is certainly a toss up

Maybe the top five could be

1. Brash
2. BGL
3. Gratts
4. Orr
5. Belak

after that is anybody's guess

A "good" win over Boogaard ...I think thats a stretch. I still cant get over people giving Parros the win in that fight.

[Plateworker]

Originally Posted by TheBoogeyman

A "good" win over Boogaard ...I think thats a stretch. I still cant get over people giving Parros the win in that fight.

It was more a meaning of him actually staying with Boogy and edging him more than anything else and for a guy like Parros that is good, not actually the fight itself

[gauros]

Originally Posted by TheBoogeyman

A "good" win over Boogaard ...I think thats a stretch. I still cant get over people giving Parros the win in that fight.

Dude its always like that. The guy that is more active when no one lands any punches gets the EDGE, therefore the W for some people. I still think EDGE is an EDGE, not W. Another axample if the Orr Parros fight. No one landed anything but Orr as more active gets the W

[flyershomer]

Originally Posted by gauros

Dude its always like that. The guy that is more active when no one lands any punches gets the EDGE, therefore the W for some people. I still think EDGE is an EDGE, not W. Another axample if the Orr Parros fight. No one landed anything but Orr as more active gets the W

you should not be given an edge or a win for more activity if you dont land anything. if i tie you up and throw but dont hit anything that gives me a win?

[shanahan1499]

Originally Posted by BStreetBullies

He lost to Jared Boll.

In the eyes of a CBJ fan of course he did.

[flyershomer]

my new top 10

1. brash-actually fights. also wins almost every fight
2. laraque-dominant but lost to brash this year. very close to the one spot
3. mcgratts- lost badly to cote but still is a monster of a fighter
4. orr- really impressive the last two years. the most dangerous punch in the league
5. king- very technical but needs to win decisively
6. parros-balance is still a problem but has big wins this year
7. belak- very good record this year but barely fights and plays
8. godard- dissappeared but still is a great fighter
9. roy- hangs with the heavies and pulls out some wins
10. hordichuk- wins over the big guys this year deserves the ten spot

boogey would be up there but hasnt played basically the whole year

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by TheBoogeyman

A "good" win over Boogaard ...I think thats a stretch. I still cant get over people giving Parros the win in that fight.

That was a pretty bad fight.

I did not consider this a win;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJm1b26gDk&eurl=http://hockeyfights.com/fights/38914[/youtube]

[BStreetBullies]

Originally Posted by shanahan1499

In the eyes of a CBJ fan of course he did.

I don't like the CBJs, especially after they rid themselves of Shelley. But in my eyes, Boll got the best of him. He is doing well considering his rep, but pretty much all ten guys in the top ten would take 7 out of ten from him...

[skacore]

Originally Posted by BStreetBullies

I don't like the CBJs, especially after they rid themselves of Shelley. But in my eyes, Boll got the best of him. He is doing well considering his rep, but pretty much all ten guys in the top ten would take 7 out of ten from him...

well the majority of posters on here and dropyourgloves.com thought Downey got the best of Boll.. personally I felt it was a draw but Downey really took over the fight at the end to prove the superior fighter.. but anyways, not a loss regardless

I figured Aaron Downey would be mentioned in someones list eventually... my thoughts on him are that he doesn't deserve a spot right now and most likely won't for the remainder of the season. But he has been really impressive this year, if he snags another couple wins over guys he really shouldn't (say Ivanans, Shelley for example) then I think he may have a legit shot at 10 as no one else seems to have the consistency to hold it

[gauros]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

That was a pretty bad fight.

I did not consider this a win;

pesadillamal if you dont consider this one as an edge then what did you call the Orr Parros fight, as to me this two fights look the same.

[gauros]

Originally Posted by flyershomer

you should not be given an edge or a win for more activity if you dont land anything. if i tie you up and throw but dont hit anything that gives me a win?

Dude a lot people call it like that. Now if people are giving Orr the W for activity, as they have 70%, then i will give Parros the W for activity in the Boogaard fight.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by gauros

pesadillamal if you dont consider this one as an edge then what did you call the Orr Parros fight, as to me this two fights look the same.

I don't think they are the same. Koci landed about 3/4 solid punches in that fight against Parros and Parros landed a couple back. I gave it a draw simply because of Parros throwing more, I think Koci outlanded him.

The Orr - Parros scrap had the same or less punches land for the agressor (Orr) and easily less for the guy on the defensive (Parros). I don't think much landed either way but I didn't like Parros' effort here. Like I said in the thread, I will give Colton the win but a draw works if anyone wants to go there.

EDIT: Also, Parros is the aggressor in the first fight, Orr in the second. Parros goes down while Koci is throwing punches. You cannot say that about Orr in the second fight.

[BStreetBullies]

Originally Posted by skacore

well the majority of posters on here and dropyourgloves.com thought Downey got the best of Boll.. personally I felt it was a draw but Downey really took over the fight at the end to prove the superior fighter.. but anyways, not a loss regardless

I figured Aaron Downey would be mentioned in someones list eventually... my thoughts on him are that he doesn't deserve a spot right now and most likely won't for the remainder of the season. But he has been really impressive this year, if he snags another couple wins over guys he really shouldn't (say Ivanans, Shelley for example) then I think he may have a legit shot at 10 as no one else seems to have the consistency to hold it

I will give you that, he has had an impressive year. He has hung in there with the real HWs, and his only wins come against Kyle McClaren, Jared Boll (not sure if I agree), Matt Walker, and one really impressive one against George Parros.

It is an impressive year for him, but it's just not top ten-worthy. I don't think he can become top ten-worty with the Wings, they just have him handcuffed too much, he is basically not allowed to take on the HWs unless provided with a good reason. He has 8 fights on the season, which is also low, especially considering the high numbers we hae around the league.

[thepro987]

Aaron downey is underrated though, i'll give u that

[TheBoogeyman]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

That was a pretty bad fight.

I did not consider this a win;

I considered that a win for Koci, he landed the better punches and had a very strong finish.

The Parros fight is the only one I bitch about. Parros may have been a little more active, but no one landed anything in the fight, it was basically some punches thrown and Boogaard slipping twice. I can give an edge for someone being more active, but they better at least last one punch during the fight, Parros didnt

Edit-After rewatching the fight several times I dont believe Parros was more active, they threw just about an equal amount of punches not counting the jersey jabs. I think people gave Parros the edge because Boogaard slipped twice in that fight.

[YOUTUBE]http://youtube.com/watch?v=DSFzEC9eYKg[/YOUTUBE]