10- Cairns/Domi tie
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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
reason for taking cairns is that if they play this year and under keenan eric will take on and beat 85% of the heavies in the league imo.
On Don Saleski, who he coached in Colorado:
"I remember taking a look at him and saying ‘Anyone who perms his hair has got to go’. So we sent him to Fort Worth."
-- Don Cherry
Poobah's Top Ten 2003-2004
"There's a time and a place for everything, and if you're gonna mosh in the pit, you're gonna have to pay the price" Billy Milano - S.O.D.
Toronto's Most Wanted Irishman
1. Eric Cairns- #1 because Brashear is too scared to fight him and can beat everyone else! Has a powerful right hand (Ask anyone he fought this year!) Just destroyed everyone! Everyone got hurt after they fought him.
2. Donald Brashear- Hasn't done much, but when he does fight, he can destroy anyone.
3. Matt Johnson- Beat Laraque, so he gets the 3 spot, great fighter, experienced, and has the potential to become champ after seeing great fighting the past couple years.
4. Georges Laraque- Can beat anyone else except the top 3 guys.
5. Scott Parker- Great fighter, overrated, but can fight and beat the best of them.
6. Wade Belak- Great fighter, and is only gettting better! Domi said he is the best right now, but I think he needs to beat the top 5 proven fighters, he has the ptoential to become top 3!
7. Andrew Peters- See above^
8. Wade Brookbank- Great fighter, has great potential, and can fight the best of the best, and can handle himself well.
9. Francis Lessard- Destroyed Perrott, and can do it to anyone else given the ice time and healthy play. Great potential!
10. Todd Fedoruk- Excellent fighter, can slug it out, takes punches, and has great potential, given the ice time and healthy play.
11. Chris Simon- Pretty good fighter, OVERRATED, but can scrap with the best of them.
12. Eric Godard- Great fighter with a lot of potential. Next year will be his breakout year, given the ice time and staying healthy.
13. Darcy Hordichuk- Potential to become top 5, just needs more ice time. Excellent and very entertaining fighter.
14. Peter Worrell- Pretty good fighter, just needs to get back to 100%, then he will go higher on the rankings.
15. Nathan Perrott- Strong fighter, great stamina, just needs more ice time.
16. Reed Low- Needs to stay healthy, and get stronger! Punching power is terrible for a guy his size!
17. Tie Domi- Whats there to say? The guy has fought everyone, but his fighting skills are getting worse year by year (Size is becoming a huge factor nowadays, and he is just too small) But he can still scrap and spin you in his cycle of punches!
18. Jody Shelley- One of my favs, just not a homer so I didn't put him higher. His fights are entertaining, but he just can't beat proven fighters, he has no big wins.
19. Krysztof Oliwa- See post above ^
20. Jesse Boulerice- Has great potential, just needs to gets tronger to handle the big boys.
Top 10 for 2003-2004 Poll
OVERALL LIST (to be counted)
Also, here's mine for 2003-2004, only concerning this season . . .
(1) Peters: Sure he was at the receiving end of one of the most brutal looking TKOs in the history of hockey, but outside of that, he had a shockingly effective year . . . had a slew of fights . . . proved to be one of the top two or three “damaging” fighters in the league, and but for a few seeming “I’m ahead on points” bail-outs, was one of the most fearless, exciting fighters out there . . .
(1) Neil: I may not be in the majority putting him this high, but he had a slew of fights, fought some pretty decent guys, played the enforcer role well enough as an undersized “heavyweight” and perhaps a lone gunman of sorts for most of the year in Ottawa, was never embarrassed, and actually handled quite a few guys I never figured he would; he showed glimpses of power, and was always exciting . . .
(3) Oliwa: Had maybe the best year he’s ever had, which is actually saying something . . . he had some big-time wins against top-line competition; but for Chris Simon (and that is certainly debatable), he would be a lock as comeback fighter of the year . . .
(4) Cairns: Yeah, he didn’t fight as much as the aforementioned guys, but when he did, seemingly more often than not, somebody was getting hurt . . . I thought he solidified himself as the most damaging fighter in the league, and may be the most feared fighter out there right now (apologies to Parker and Laraque) . . .
(5) Johnson: He had a “fine-wine” type year, and arguably his best season ever . . . he showcased devastating power (see Johnson-Peters II), and finally beat his nemesis, George Laraque . . .
(6) Shelley: Okay, okay, so he lost more than he won . . . but for Oliwa, his fight card was unmatched, and he had a few nice wins . . . he’s also pretty much the most fearless heavy in the league, and maybe its most entertaining (obviously not anymore entertaining than Vandy, Hordi, etc., but he’s closer in stature to the classic “heavyweight”) . . .
(7) Brookbank: Rookie of the Year? Maybe . . . I might go with Peters, but the difference is negligible . . . busted on the scene with his jackhammer right and reckless attitude – amazing it took him as long as it did to find a home this season . . . had some big-time wins utilizing the right hand bomb, and had very few, if any, clear losses . . .
(8) Vandenbussche: I thought Vandy had one of his best years ever . . . although Burnett seemed to have his number, he also served one up on Garrett earlier in the season . . . he continues to be one of the top two or three most fearless and exciting guys in the league, and one of the most devastating undersized heavies in the history of hockey . . .
(9) Simon: My pick for comeback fighter of the year (narrowly over Oliwa) . . . at times looked like a guy I knew in the mid-90s . . . I think he gets the comeback award simply because of where he came from – nearly 8 years of relatively little fan fare (I actually thought he always fared pretty well throughout those 8 years when he did “drop ‘em”, but nobody else really did . . .
(10) Brashear: I can’t keep this guy out of my top 10 – he’s still the best fighter in the league in my humble opinion, and but for a lack of fights, had perhaps the most solid season of anybody . . .
HM: Worrell: Peter, but for his shocking loss to Hordichuk, had one of the better second halves of any fighter IMO, and was amongst the busier fighters . . . had he been healthy, I have no doubt he would have been a top 5 guy this past season . . .
Some other guys that I thought merit some attention (somewhat in order, but they are all sort of interchangeable to some degree):
Wiemer: Not a big-time fight card, but certainly beat up a lot of people . . .
Langdon: Actually turned in a solid season . . .
Low: Stayed under the radar for the most part, but when I went back and reviewed his year, he was right up there with nearly everybody else . . .
Parker: Had a somewhat boring season, but considering the way people tend to fight him, it was actually pretty solid . . . not a Top 10 season, and certainly disappointing to anybody who had him as their pre-season No. 1 (yours truly), but he didn’t do anything to be embarrassed about . . .
Hordi: Benefited somewhat from “cheating” in a few fights, but I can cut him some slack – afterall, he is Hordi . . .
Boulerice: As an appreciator (word?) of technique, Jesse is one of my favorites to watch fight – the second coming of Ken Baumgartner . . .
Lessard: perhaps a little too inactive, and not a big fan of his tendency to jump guys, can’t really argue that the guy can throw down, in did so very well this past season . . .
Godard: He had some rough showings, but overall, was extremely solid as the second big gun on the Island . . .
Burnett: Another of the “young guns” . . . needs to work on his balance, but showed signs of brilliance . . . not sure how long he will hold on in the bigs, but who knows . . .
Vandermeer: Wow, was this guy entertaining or what . . . had some epic brawls this season, with some nice wins . . . tremendous tools – some of the best endurance fighters in the game, and if anybody saw his scrap with Grant Marshall (not exactly a pillow puncher), then you know what I mean when I say the kid’s got an iron jaw . . .
Laraque: Outside of perhaps Peter Worrell (Hordi), had the most publicized “losses” of the season – this may have actually taken away from an otherwise solid season . . . granted, he rarely fought, which, for me, keeps him far from this season’s Top 10, but when he did he was his usual dominating self . . .
Belak: Missed too much of the season to seriously contend, but had a typical solid season otherwise . . .
Peat: Another guy who didn’t fight nearly enough for anybody’s liking, but when he does, he’s easily amongst the top 10 talented fighters in the game . . .
Last edited by Merlin401; 08-17-2004 at 09:29 AM. Reason: added your overall list in there so i wouldn't be confused :)
Overall Top 10
Top 10 - Post 2003-2004 Season
1. Andrew Peters (Awesome rookie campaign with some impressive wins, a few bad losses, and a few unecessary turtles, but overall had one of he best rookie runs in a long time)
2. Eric Cairns (Still devastating, wasn't as active as I would have liked, but not many were willing to tangle with the giant)
3. Matt Johnson (Best fighting season yet IMO, had some solid wins, most noteably being against Laraque, had a good rivalry with Brookbank, should continue his positive ways next year)
4. Scott Parker (Had a decent year IMO, fought Shelley a handful of times winning all IMO, showed he still possesses one of the best rights in the game, not as active as us fans want, but doesn't have many willing dance partners)
5. Chris Simon (Witnessed the Simon of old, haven't seen that mean left in years, had some solid wins, was involved in the fight of the year IMO against McNeil, should be just as active next year being the #1 guy in Calgary)
6. Wade Brookbank (Was on pace to perhaps match or beat Laus' FM record for one season, made an immediate impact with a solid KO of Oliwa, slowly learning, had a lot of solid wins, only one clear loss against Shelley IMO, should be someone to watch for years to come)
7. Jody Shelley (Active as usual, suffered some losses against Brookbank and Parker, but was game in all battles, always willing to tango, good season overall)
8. Kristof Oliwa (How can you not put a guy that fights so frequently in this year's top 10, had some good bouts, was very entertaining, didn't always come out on top, but was losing his mits often)
9. Donald Brashear (Had some beatings against decent and not so decent fighters, schooled the young Godard, displaying his bear-like strength, didn't fight as much, but still can beat anyone)
10. Peter Worrell (Had a decent year, was plagued with injury at the start of the season, despite the loss to hordi, had a good card and is still a beast)
In the words of Don Cherry - "Odjick shouldn't have got a suspension. He should've got a medal"
Last edited by Merlin401; 11-12-2004 at 08:31 PM.
Hey im new here but I love hockey fights heres my top 10.
1.Domi-(like a pit bull small but tought iv never seen him lose a fight)
2.Brashear-(i think hes loosing his touch but hes one of my favourits)
3.Carins-(all around great fighter)
4.Parker-(great season with sharks)
5.Johnson-(scray, big monster good record)
6.Peters-(good rookie season)
9.Brookbank-(few but impresive fights)
10.Oliwa-(fighting major leader)
1.BRASHEAR-Still the best
3.CAIRNS-Seen him fight over her against our guy,Mel Angelstad .Great fight hard to call.
7.BELAK-Another player who has joined our league.Won easy in his first fight.