The Top 10 Thread

[OneilltheGiant]

Originally Posted by McDonald19

1. Derek Boogaard
2. Steve MacIntyre
3. Trevor Gillies
4. Colton Orr
5. Matt Carkner
6. Eric Godard
7. John Scott
8. Deryk Engelland
9. Eric Boulton
10. George Parros

Good list..

[Juha82]

Originally Posted by OneilltheGiant

Good list..

Not good.
Where is Thornton?
MaCintyre second?
Carkner 5.??
Gillies 3.??
Gillies's right rank is somewhere 7-9.
Parros name shoulndt even mention in/with Top10.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by Juha82

Thornton should be ahead of Gillies and Scott.
Engelland have to be higher, ahead of Gillies, Scott and Godard.
Godard is disappointment this season.
Carkner is number one.

Disagree with almost everything you've written here, Juha.

Gillies edged Thornton in their only scrap, thus he should be above Thorts. Gillies' current season (and last season, but who's counting) FC put him ahead of both Engelland (who lost to Bissonnette) and Scott (who hasn't proven himself yet) as well. We do agree that Godard has had a disappointing season, but that's about it.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by McDonald19

1. Derek Boogaard
2. Steve MacIntyre
3. Trevor Gillies
4. Colton Orr
5. Matt Carkner
6. Eric Godard
7. John Scott
8. Deryk Engelland
9. Eric Boulton
10. George Parros

Good list, buddy.

With Boogaard down, Orr's slide, Big Mac's lack of fights, Godard's broken orbital, Scott's undistinguished FC, Gillies' restricted ice time, Thornton's recent defeats, Shelley's sudden resurgence, etc., just about every Top-10 position is debatable or up for grabs.

I think Boogie, Big Mac and Carkner are Top-3, give or take. Gillies (who beat Carkner last year, but hasn't yet scrapped with him this season) is anywhere from #6 to #4. Shelley, Orr, Godard, Thorts, Bissonnette and Scott are also Top-10 material as well, but their specific order shifts and changes pretty regularly. I don't think I'd have Big George P breaking my Top 10 on account of one TKO over Orr, but hey, your mileage may vary. Gotta love the number of scraps he's had this year.

[Sapunka16]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

I think Boogie, Big Mac and Carkner are Top-3, give or take.

I think this is the top 3 now, in some order. If Carkner and Mac fight on 2/12, we could get a better idea of what order. If Carkner wins or the fight is a draw, I think he would have to be undisputed champ.

[Juha82]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Disagree with almost everything you've written here, Juha.

Gillies edged Thornton in their only scrap, thus he should be above Thorts. Gillies' current season (and last season, but who's counting) FC put him ahead of both Engelland (who lost to Bissonnette) and Scott (who hasn't proven himself yet) as well. We do agree that Godard has had a disappointing season, but that's about it.

Thornton didnt got edged by Gillies as the fight was draw simply.
Thornton did pretty well against guys like Godard, Boogaard and Shelley this season and some other guys more.
Gillies has losses more though, clear loss to Boogaard for example cant now remember his other scraps but Thornton has done overall better job(no losses).
Engelland is a guy who won Colton Orr twice!!!! those are key-victories, big ones!!!!!!!
I dont even remember that Engelland has fought against Scott this season but i will go checking again guys fights.

[Juha82]

Gillies biggest victory is over rusty D.J.King.
Thornton have many very good shows this season, not at all weak shows.

1.Carkner(hurted Boogaard and Godard and beated narrowly Thornton)
2.Boogaard(got hurted by a punch but still Top2 for sure!!!)
3.Orr(SOLID job by this guy like always)
4.Thornton(many fights under and strong shows REALLY)
5.MaCintyre(little fights under, KO-win over Ivanans but thats it)
6.Engelland(2 big wins over C.Orr)
7.T.Gillies(edged King, solid job by this man but cant be higher)
8.Scott(not best card, thats why heis low, could be higher if would fight with best guys)
9.Godard(disappointment)
10.Boulton(solid job by this veteran!)

i understand someone critizes that Thorntons rank though because he hasnt many big victories, draws with Boogaard, Godard, Gillies, Shelley and Boulton.
Narrow wins over Boulton and Hordichuk.
Clear win over Rosehill.
Narrow losses to Shelley and Carkner.
But overall pretty solid,strong job by him.
Worthy draws with Boogaard, Godard and Gillies.
Good win over Boulton.
Rosehill isnt bad fighter because he caused a lot of problems to Godard who couldnt beat him but the fight was DRAW.

MaCintyre didnt beat Colton Orr.
I dont count Pre-season fights!!!

Gillies got edged by Godard by the way and Thornton fought a draw with Godard(also Thornton fought a draw with Boogaard, someone called it edge Thornton and Gillies got pounded clearly by Boogaard).

One guy critized my list, where i ranked Thornton ahead of Gillies but actually he was wrong.
See the facts man.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by Juha82

Thornton didnt got edged by Gillies as the fight was draw simply.
Thornton did pretty well against guys like Godard, Boogaard and Shelley this season and some other guys more.
Gillies has losses more though, clear loss to Boogaard for example cant now remember his other scraps but Thornton has done overall better job(no losses).
Engelland is a guy who won Colton Orr twice!!!! those are key-victories, big ones!!!!!!!
I dont even remember that Engelland has fought against Scott this season but i will go checking again guys fights.

Thornton has no losses? Thornton has losses to Gillies, Carkner and Shelley. That's 3 losses. Gillies has 2 losses, so your statement that ""Gillies has more losses" is wrong. Deal with it.

You may not agree with the FC votes, and they may not be the most accurate system, but they're the best we've got here for settling disputes like this. I don't think Gillies lost to Godard, and you don't think Thornton lost to Gillies, but apparently a lot more people here think otherwise. Believe what you want, but the FCs are here to settle the disputes.

So here's what it comes down to: If you think Orr's at the top of his game and having an impressive season, as you apparently do, then you're going to rate guys like Engelland and Parros, who TKO'd Orr, much higher than I would rate them. If, you think Orr's not at the top of his game and is having a crappy season, as I do, then you're not going to rate guys like Engelland and Parros that high on your list, and I don't.

No, Engelland hasn't fought Scott this season, but Engelland has fought and lost to Bissonnette, whom Gillies pounded earlier this season. That may mean nothing to you, but it indicates something to me.

[Juha82]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Thornton has no losses? Thornton has losses to Gillies, Carkner and Shelley. That's 3 losses. Gillies has 2 losses, so your statement that ""Gillies has more losses" is wrong. Deal with it.

You may not agree with the FC votes, and they may not be the most accurate system, but they're the best we've got here for settling disputes like this. I don't think Gillies lost to Godard, and you don't think Thornton lost to Gillies, but apparently a lot more people here think otherwise. Believe what you want, but the FCs are here to settle the disputes.

So here's what it comes down to: If you think Orr's at the top of his game and having an impressive season, as you apparently do, then you're going to rate guys like Engelland and Parros, who TKO'd Orr, much higher than I would rate them. If, you think Orr's not at the top of his game and is having a crappy season, as I do, then you're not going to rate guys like Engelland and Parros that high on your list, and I don't.

No, Engelland hasn't fought Scott this season, but Engelland has fought and lost to Bissonnette, whom Gillies pounded earlier this season. That may mean nothing to you, but it indicates something to me.

Gillies victories arent big ones, against Boll, Brookband...victory over Bissonnette is nice one and victory over King is good one but King is rusty like we all guys knows it fact.
Thorntons victories are as well good ones, over Hordi and Boulton and Rosehill(who is tough dude).
Someone has called Thornton vs Boogaard edge Thornton but i see it draw.
Thornton vs Godard=DRaw as well and Thornton vs Gillies=DRaw.

Parros TKO'd Orr but Parros has still many lame shows this season, not Top10 guy in my book.
Orr has good shows(win over Carkner, King twice, Neil and Boulton, few weaker shows against Parros and Engelland).
he didnt losses to MaCintyre.
Got edged by Boogaard, not bad show by him.
Orr is Elite TOp3-5 guy this season, HANDS DOWN and realize the clear calm fact sorry.

[Juha82]

A JOKE by me;
I did a showboat after winning this "battle" against 29th_Candidate

Joke joke, only joke dont take seriously that comment.

[Cat Smasher]

Originally Posted by guru71

Orr is a joke.

Oh T800, you're not fooling anyone, tsk tsk.

[Cat Smasher]

Originally Posted by Shockadelica

1. Donald Brashear
2. Georges Laraque
3. Rob Schremp
4. Todd Fedoruk
5. Wade Belak
7. Matt Johnson
9. Scott Stevens
10. Riley Cote

H.M Andrew Peters and Karl Malone

What?

[ThrowdownSJ408]

although thorton started off strong i feel his stock his going lower down the list.

[jayc948]

1. Derek Boogaard
2. Steve MacIntyre
3. Matt Carkner
4. Deryk Engelland
5. Colton Orr
6. Eric Godard
7. Shawn Thornton
8. Eric Boulton
9. Trevor Gillies
10. George Parros

[Killah_punk]

Originally Posted by jayc948

1. Derek Boogaard
2. Steve MacIntyre
3. Matt Carkner
4. Deryk Engelland
5. Colton Orr
6. Eric Godard
7. Shawn Thornton
8. Eric Boulton
9. Trevor Gillies
10. George Parros

Decent list here, i would maybe move Godard down thou. Hopefully Engelland and Gilles both play Tuesday night and have a dance to help settle some positioning prior to the All Star break.