The Top 10 Thread

[Hagstrom]

Ya, Rypien should definitely be in the mix somewhere.

[brawls16]

Originally Posted by Knucklechucker

Bassically, what im trying too say is, you have to beat the people who the other fighter beat, or beat someone who they fought too a draw/lost too, to move ahead of him. Beating lower competition doesn't mean you move ahead.
edit: forgot my list. (Other seasons do not count at ALL for me, so take this with a grain of salt)
1: Brashear
2: Orr
3: Macintyre
4: McGrattan
5: Boogaard
6: Ivanans.
7: Laraque
8: Parros
9: Shelley
10: Godard

I don't like salt.

I know you're not about continued rankings season to season, but to leave Wade Belak out of your list and have punching bags like Parros and Ivanans in his place is just wrong.

I know your excuse will be 'he needs to fight more'. But there's absolutley no way to justify Parros and Ivanans ahead of last years Champion.

Belak has only two losses since fighting Cam Janssen in November of 2006, both of those defeats coming at the hands of Derek Boogaard, one of those losses wasn't even really a loss, just a crappy fight that people have Derek the edge for 'controlling the fight' as oppose to actually beating him. His win/loss record is the best around by far.

Ivanans on the other hand has only 2 wins since April of last year, both against Jody Shelley. Is that really deserving of being mentioned more than the CHAMPION? You have him at number 6? Outside of Shelley and Parros, he hasn't even beat Top10 fighters. Brashear, Orr, Boogaard, Laraque, Godard, McGrattan, etc....he doesn't have 1 single win against these guys. On the other hand, Belak has the best record against these guys combind more than any other fighter. Ivanans is a horrible choice even when just counting this season. What has he done? He had a solid draw with McGrattan and that's it. Belak, the defending Champion, also has a solid draw against McGrattan this year. Yet the guy that KO's Brashear, beat Laraque, Orr, Boogaard isn't even on your list???

And shall I even get started with Parros? SURE!

The human punching bag is having argualby his WORST season in the NHL. Only the 1 lone victory on the year, and it was a crappy fight against a rookie? Come on Knucklechucker, surely you can put Belak ahead of these two clowns. You're only argument for having both Parros and Ivanans on your list is they have more fights. So what?

They're a combined 2 wins and 15 draw/losses this year. Wow. And you have one of them at number 6? In comparison, in Belak's last 17 fights, he's got 11 wins and just two losses, again, both against Boogaard. Time to go back to the drawing board my friend.

You still put the former Champion Laraque on your list, who is 1-1-1 this year. Well the defending Champion Belak is also 1-1-1 this year, and you leave him out over Parros and Ivanans?

Sorry dude, the rest of your list is A-Ok, and even though you claim that your list is this year only, it's not right omitting the Champ and instead having garbage guys in there as #6 without even winning.

You said this 4 days ago to Valeri....

Originally Posted by Knucklechucker

Who has he beaten? I don't even think the dude should be at number 4, he's beaten Wade Belak, George Parros and David Koci.
Out of those 3, Belak is arguably the only legit top 10, and he hasn't been very active/good this year. So why does Boogaard get number 1? Why does he even get number 4? He hasn't been impressive at all.
Big Mac may not be in the NHL right now, but his card is way better then Boogaards this year, he had a GREAT fight with McG, and Beat both Orr and Brashear pretty cleanly (Hm Orr and Brashear? two top 5 guys, arguably top 3's this year.)
I don't agree that Mac should be #1, but having Boogaard even mentioned as a number 1 ahead of Macintyre is completely retarded.

Belak is the only legit Top10 guy when talking about Parros, Belak and Koci? Yet you have Parros in your Top10 and not Wade Belak?

You're very confusing, I'll give you that.

But I will concede to this, Belak will continue to be inactive until January. Apart from being a scratch nearly every game, his schedule just isn't suited to having him fight alot. Look at his division. Chicago, Columbus, and Detroit don't even carry a heavyweight. Cam Janssen in St.Louis is the only real threat to Belak, and he's a middleweight at that. Wade doesn't play against a Top10 fighter until Jan.5th against McGrattan. So for the next couple weeks or so, I guess my point will go un-heard and people will continue to over-look Belak this year due to his inactivity, given it isn't his fault or his choice, it's just the way the season is playing out thus far.

Belak is still Top10, if not #1. A very quiet season so far, but you have to beat the Champ to be the Champ, wasn't that Laraque and Brashears argument for YEARS?

Ivanans at 6?.....to use your word......RETARDED!!

[T800m101]

Brawls, I agree with most of what you say but Ivanans is NOT a punching bag by any means.

[Knucklechucker]

Originally Posted by brawls16

I don't like salt.

I know you're not about continued rankings season to season, but to leave Wade Belak out of your list and have punching bags like Parros and Ivanans in his place is just wrong.

I know your excuse will be 'he needs to fight more'. But there's absolutley no way to justify Parros and Ivanans ahead of last years Champion.

Belak has only two losses since fighting Cam Janssen in November of 2006, both of those defeats coming at the hands of Derek Boogaard, one of those losses wasn't even really a loss, just a crappy fight that people have Derek the edge for 'controlling the fight' as oppose to actually beating him. His win/loss record is the best around by far.

Ivanans on the other hand has only 2 wins since April of last year, both against Jody Shelley. Is that really deserving of being mentioned more than the CHAMPION? You have him at number 6? Outside of Shelley and Parros, he hasn't even beat Top10 fighters. Brashear, Orr, Boogaard, Laraque, Godard, McGrattan, etc....he doesn't have 1 single win against these guys. On the other hand, Belak has the best record against these guys combind more than any other fighter. Ivanans is a horrible choice even when just counting this season. What has he done? He had a solid draw with McGrattan and that's it. Belak, the defending Champion, also has a solid draw against McGrattan this year. Yet the guy that KO's Brashear, beat Laraque, Orr, Boogaard isn't even on your list???

And shall I even get started with Parros? SURE!

The human punching bag is having argualby his WORST season in the NHL. Only the 1 lone victory on the year, and it was a crappy fight against a rookie? Come on Knucklechucker, surely you can put Belak ahead of these two clowns. You're only argument for having both Parros and Ivanans on your list is they have more fights. So what?

They're a combined 2 wins and 15 draw/losses this year. Wow. And you have one of them at number 6? In comparison, in Belak's last 17 fights, he's got 11 wins and just two losses, again, both against Boogaard. Time to go back to the drawing board my friend.

You still put the former Champion Laraque on your list, who is 1-1-1 this year. Well the defending Champion Belak is also 1-1-1 this year, and you leave him out over Parros and Ivanans?

Sorry dude, the rest of your list is A-Ok, and even though you claim that your list is this year only, it's not right omitting the Champ and instead having garbage guys in there as #6 without even winning.

You said this 4 days ago to Valeri....

Belak is the only legit Top10 guy when talking about Parros, Belak and Koci? Yet you have Parros in your Top10 and not Wade Belak?

You're very confusing, I'll give you that.

But I will concede to this, Belak will continue to be inactive until January. Apart from being a scratch nearly every game, his schedule just isn't suited to having him fight alot. Look at his division. Chicago, Columbus, and Detroit don't even carry a heavyweight. Cam Janssen in St.Louis is the only real threat to Belak, and he's a middleweight at that. Wade doesn't play against a Top10 fighter until Jan.5th against McGrattan. So for the next couple weeks or so, I guess my point will go un-heard and people will continue to over-look Belak this year due to his inactivity, given it isn't his fault or his choice, it's just the way the season is playing out thus far.

Belak is still Top10, if not #1. A very quiet season so far, but you have to beat the Champ to be the Champ, wasn't that Laraque and Brashears argument for YEARS?

Ivanans at 6?.....to use your word......RETARDED!!

Belak is the only top 10 from LAST year (sorry, i'm not being clear)
and once again, I've only used this season fight cards, who below Ivanans deserves too be higher then him?


plus, Brawls. I really really want too have Belak on there, but look at all your arguments, they all
Plus, if your going by season to season, Belak shouldn't have been the champ last year. So its kind of a double standard, as Laraque was the champion, but using LAST season Belak was at the number 1, but this season is why i have him so low, if he decides he wants to be awesome again, i'll move him up.
edit: wait a second, i don't have Belak on there at all? oops o.O
edit 2nd: I took George Parros off the list, as i had not seen his fight card entirely, a big loss to John Scott and a ****ty loss to Carkner does not get you in the top 10, excuse my mistake.
1: Brashear
2: Orr
3: Macintyre
4: McGrattan
5: Boogaard
6: Ivanans.
7: Laraque
8: Shelley
9: Belak
10: Godard
there is my revised list.

[letsgo92]

Originally Posted by letsgo92

1# Brashear was the first name that came to my mind
2# Orr
3# Boogaard
4# Laraque
5# Thornton
6# Shelley
7# May
8# Janssen
9# McLeod
10#Jackman

that's what i got

Ok I've makeing a change to my list

[quote=letsgo92;1845105]1# Brashear was the first name that came to my mind
2# Orr
3# Boogaard
4# Laraque
5# Thornton
6# Shelley
7# May
8# Janssen
9# McLeod
10#Rypien

[ryansteele12]

Originally Posted by Merlin401

Here's Hockeyfight.com's continually evolving top 10 list. Make sure you keep it updated, as only the most recent lists comprise the official top 10!

* Everyone list your top 10, and I'll compile the votes like the AP does
* The current top 10 will be displayed in this post
* REPOST your top ten whenever it changes (DO NOT EDIT), and I'll re-compile the votes whenever I can so it is always the updated opinion of the board.


Current HF Top 10 (10/08/09)

Total Voters: 487
Votes Counted: Most Recent 60

Rank: Name (1st place votes).......Total Points
1. Wade Belak, NSH (30)......................511
2. Donald Brashear, WAS (12)...............483
3. Georges Laraque, MTL (14)...............465
4. Eric Godard, PIT (4)........................440
5. Colton Orr, NYR .............................416
6. Derek Boogaard, MIN ......................293
7. Jody Shelley, SJ ............................146
8. George Parros, ANA ........................138
9. Raitis Ivanans, LA...........................124
10. Cam Janssen, STL...........................49

ALSO RECEIVING VOTES: MacIntyre (28), Rupp (26), Cote (19), Boulton (19), D.J. King (17), M. Walker (16), Clarkson (13), Sh. Thornton (12), Hordichuk (12), Asham (11), Chara (7), Lucic (7), Peters (3), Boll (3), Neil (3), John Scott (2), Stortini (1), McGrattan (7), Barch (1), Carcillo (1), Koci (1), Bissonnette (1)

Not In the NHL but Still Receiving Votes: Fritz (22), J. Gratton (3),

Past Top 10 Lists (Back to 1975)

Visit this thread:
Lineage of the Heavyweight Champ & Top Ten Lists '75-'09

1.Georges Laraque
2.Wade Belak
3.Colton Orr
4.George Parros
5.Eric Godard
6.Donald Brashear
7.Derek Boogaard
8.Brandon Prust
9.Zach Stortini
10.Riley Cote

[Taubi]

Originally Posted by ryansteele12

1.Georges Laraque
2.Wade Belak
3.Colton Orr
4.George Parros
5.Eric Godard
6.Donald Brashear
7.Derek Boogaard
8.Brandon Prust
9.Zach Stortini
10.Riley Cote

1a,1b,1c Belak, Brashear, Laraque (still the best)
2 Boogaard
3 Godard
4 Orr
5 MacIntyre
6 Janssen
7-10-X I don´t know!? Maybe Shelley, Parros, Ivanans, Rupp, Carkner, Bissonette, Scott, Fritz, Cote, Rypien, Asham, Carcillo, Boulton, Stortini, Prust, Iginla, Chara, Souray, M.Richards.....

[Boogeyman2383]

Originally Posted by ryansteele12

1.Georges Laraque
2.Wade Belak
3.Colton Orr
4.George Parros
5.Eric Godard
6.Donald Brashear
7.Derek Boogaard
8.Brandon Prust
9.Zach Stortini
10.Riley Cote

How the Hell is Parros at #4?
He got KO'd by John Scott, and beaten by Derek Boogaard, Matt Carkner, Raitis Ivanans, and Brian McGrattan

[Boogeyman2383]

Originally Posted by hockey_nut69

Belak
Laraque
Bogart
Godard
Orr
Brashear
Carkner
Chara
Shelley
Ivanans

just one mans opinion

Just another hater...

[letsgo92]

Originally Posted by hockey_nut69

Belak
Laraque
Bogart
Godard
Orr
Brashear
Carkner
Chara
Shelley
Ivanans

just one mans opinion

not a bad list but chara really if you to go with a bruin go with Thornton

[Valeri]

just can't believe people keep on putting Boogaard on 4th, 6th 7th place...
ridiculous!

[R.Middleton]

Just stopping by before the night ends.

1. Georges Laraque
2. Donald Brashear
3. Derek Boogaard
4. Wade Belak
5. Colton Orr
6. Eric Godard
7. Brian McGrattan
8. Raitis Ivanans
9. Jody Shelley
10. Eric Boulton

Keys names not in there that should be in there: D.J. King and Steve MacIntyre

[rondo]

Originally Posted by R.Middleton

Just stopping by before the night ends.

1. Georges Laraque
2. Donald Brashear
3. Derek Boogaard
4. Wade Belak
5. Colton Orr
6. Eric Godard
7. Brian McGrattan
8. Raitis Ivanans
9. Jody Shelley
10. Eric Boulton

Keys names not in there that should be in there: D.J. King and Steve MacIntyre

Thanks for stopping by and making a real top 10 list. Some of the lists above look like some juvenile deliquients got a hold of a computer for a half hour and went nutz.............

[Nightshade88]

End of the week Top Ten (My weeks end on Sunday)

1. Donald Brashear
2. Colton Orr
3. Derek Boogaard
4. John Scott
5. Steve Macintyre
6. Brian Mcgrattan
7. Matt Carkner
8. Shawn Thornton
9. Raitis Ivanans
10. Eric Boulton

I reset my rankings every week and dont believe in preseason rankings. So Wade Belak Georges Laraque, and Eric Godard have not been impressive enough to be top 10 worthy yet.

[letsgo92]

Originally Posted by Nightshade88

End of the week Top Ten (My weeks end on Sunday)

1. Donald Brashear
2. Colton Orr
3. Derek Boogaard
4. John Scott
5. Steve Macintyre
6. Brian Mcgrattan
7. Matt Carkner
8. Shawn Thornton
9. Raitis Ivanans
10. Eric Boulton

I reset my rankings every week and dont believe in preseason rankings. So Wade Belak Georges Laraque, and Eric Godard have not been impressive enough to be top 10 worthy yet.

Great list