The Top 10 Thread

[Nightshade88]

Originally Posted by T800m101

To me Laraque's last real dominating season was in 05-06, that was the last year I'd rank him as the champ.

Who do you think is the current champ then?

[T800m101]

Originally Posted by Nightshade88

Who do you think is the current champ then?

A lot of different variables right now. One could say Orr but he has yet to beat either Brashear or Laraque, and Brashear has owned him so far. One could say McGrattan but he got beat pretty good by Orr. One could say Belak because of his last season's dominance and hasn't taken a big loss yet, just a narrow loss to Boogaard. And, one could say Brashear because he pretty much dominates everyone, however, his KO loss to Belak wasn't too long ago and he just suffered a loss to MacIntyre, who you also can throw into the pot. Boogaard is definitely another one. It's all up in the air right now, way too early to say.

[mcbrink26]

1. Laraque
2. Boogaard
3. McGrattan
4. Orr
5. Brashear
6. Boll
7. Belak
8. Parros
9. Boulton
10. Janssen

[caps87]

Originally Posted by mcbrink26

1. Laraque
2. Boogaard
3. McGrattan
4. Orr
5. Brashear
6. Boll
7. Belak
8. Parros
9. Boulton
10. Janssen

Boll and no Godard?

[Knucklechucker]

Originally Posted by mcbrink26

1. Laraque
2. Boogaard
3. McGrattan
4. Orr
5. Brashear
6. Boll
7. Belak
8. Parros
9. Boulton
10. Janssen

wtf?!

I gotta disagree with people who say if a play goes to the AHL they shouldn't be aloud to be part of a top #10. It shouldn't even affect there ranking.
But what I do agree is that lists should move around them.
Put it this way, MacIntrye beat Orr and Brashear., but now say Someone else Beats Orr and Brashear (or equal competition), we'll say Boogaard, but then Boogaard also have to beat someone ELSE who is higher then Macintyre too move ahead of Macintyre, OR score a more clear cut victory over one of the two.
I'll try and make it more clear.
S.Macintyre defeats Orr and Brashear and Draws with McGrattan.
Now, for Boogaard to even be able too move ahead of him in a list(once again, just using examples) he has to defeat Orr and Brashear AND McGrattan, or Beat Orr and Brashear, one of which is a more clear cut victory then Macintyres, (either a TKO or KO, cause he clearly beat both of them) and Draw with McGrattan.
So, since Orr and Brashear are arguably top 3 fighters, there is no equal competition, so Boogaard HAS to beat atleast one of them (and someone else who is higher then Macintyre to move ahead of him.
Bassically, beating alot of people who are lower in the rankings then someone, means you cannot move ahead of them.
So, say Boogaard goes and beats up Ivanans, Shelly, Godard and Belak. While Macintyre only gets up for another two fights and both of them are Draws (lets say with Boulton and Shelly), Boogaard does not move ahead of Macintyre.

Bassically, what im trying too say is, you have to beat the people who the other fighter beat, or beat someone who they fought too a draw/lost too, to move ahead of him. Beating lower competition doesn't mean you move ahead.
edit: forgot my list. (Other seasons do not count at ALL for me, so take this with a grain of salt)
1: Brashear
2: Orr
3: Macintyre
4: McGrattan
5: Boogaard
6: Ivanans.
7: Laraque
8: Shelley
9: Belak
10: Godard
Now that I put this on here, say Ivanans goes up and kicks Parros' and Shelleys ass, that doesn't move him any higher. The same was as if Shelly beats up Parros and Laraque (just an example), the highest Shelley can move is 7. You can't move any higher up then the highest guy you beat.
But now say Godard beats up Orr but loses too Macintyre, Godard moves too Macintyer's spot, Mactinyre moves too Orrs and Orr goes to Godard's, but since Orr beat McGrattan, McGrattan is the one who drops too Godards spot, But since McGrattan beat Parros, he goes to Parros's spot and Parros is the one who drops too Godard's spot and Orr goes to McGrattans spot. You have too take into account who everyone has beaten and lost too.
Its really a pain in the ass too explain.

[super820]

Just a question are we talking about top ten for this year?

[The Crow]

Since it's only this year, might as well toss Thorburn in the mix. He's undefeated and has beaten a guy in most of your top 10 lists

[super820]

Lots keep putting Laraque and Belak in So far not enough fights for them
And i find that Laraque in my opinion wrestles to much lets see him stand up with the tough guys not just the ones he knows he can beat

[Knucklechucker]

Originally Posted by The Crow

Since it's only this year, might as well toss Thorburn in the mix. He's undefeated and has beaten a guy in most of your top 10 lists

Common Sense, try it sometime man.

Obviously the list is only for heavyweights.

[hockey_nut69]

Belak
Laraque
Bogart
Godard
Orr
Brashear
Carkner
Chara
Shelley
Ivanans

just one mans opinion

[Knucklechucker]

Originally Posted by hockey_nut69

belak
laraque
bogart
godard
orr
brashear
carkner
chara
shelley
ivanans

just one mans opinion

bogart?!

[tomales2]

Originally Posted by Knucklechucker

bogart?!

I know, lol!! I thought he was kidding-maybe not

[Knucklechucker]

Originally Posted by tomales2

I know, lol!! I thought he was kidding-maybe not

I really, really doubt it. Look at the rest of his list.

[tomales2]

Originally Posted by Knucklechucker

I really, really doubt it. Look at the rest of his list.

Yeah, I know. But he did try to ease our pain, and lessen some of the criticism by saying "one man's opinion." Not good enough though, lol

[mikey11]

rypien
and
piatt

Never seen lose a fight