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Donald Brashear
George Laraque
Steve MacIntyre
Derek Boogaard
Brian McGrattan
D.J King
Colton Orr
Wade Belak
Jody Shelley
Eric Godard

I was looking back at my prediction on this thread at the start of the year and only 3 of the guys I predicted then never made it on my final top 10 list. McGrattan and King because both were out for different reason's this season, and MacIntyre because he never got a good enough chance to prove himself.. The rest all made it though in different positions and Parros, Ivanans and Fritz were the three I did not predict to make the top ten that I included at the end of the year....

The final list looked like this..

Wade Belak
Donald Brashear
George Laraque
Eric Godard
Colton Orr
Derek Boogaard
Mitch Fritz
Raitis Ivanans
Jody Shelley
George Parros

Next season If we have a fit Brian McGrattan, D.J King and Steve McIntyre who fight regularly then I think all three will make my list.. It will be interesting to see if guys like MacIntyre and Fritz are used next year or if they drop down to the AHL.. Also interesting to see if any of the AHL guys this year get called up.. I would like to see how Yablonski would fair in the NHL next year if given the chance....

I'm hoping also the Flyers sign a top 10 enforcer next year... my pick would be Boogaard
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This Thread is for the actullay Season, not a Thread for the 10 best Fighter for anyone.

my top ten list for the season:
Belak
Brashear
Godard
Orr
Boogaard
Laraque
Parros
Shelly
Ivanans
Asham
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:31 AM
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This Thread is for the actullay Season, not a Thread for the 10 best Fighter for anyone.

my top ten list for the season:
Belak
Brashear
Godard
Orr
Boogaard
Laraque
Parros
Shelly
Ivanans
Asham
Why Laraque so low and why have Asham on a top 10.. ? .. I know it your opinion but would like to hear why you picked Asham above guys like Fritz,Rupp,Janssen.. I'm a Flyers fan and like Asham but i think he's not even the toughest guy on the Flyers team, Cote and Gratton I would both rate higher...
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:35 AM
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1 Donald Brashear
2 Belak
3 Godard
4 BGL
5 Colton Orr
6 Derek Boogaard
7 Jody Shelley
8 George Parros
9 Raitis Ivanans
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Why Laraque so low and why have Asham on a top 10.. ? .. I know it your opinion but would like to hear why you picked Asham above guys like Fritz,Rupp,Janssen.. I'm a Flyers fan and like Asham but i think he's not even the toughest guy on the Flyers team, Cote and Gratton I would both rate higher...
I put Asham in my top 10 also only because he had a great year.

If the top 10 list is about who would beat who then my list would change quite a bit.

Asham did really well this year and no, he's not going to beat any of the super heavyweights but that's not the point, it's who had the best season if I understand it correctly.

These lists are so subjective anyway, it can be how you interpret it. Some might think it's who is the best fighter, who had the best year, pound for pound fighter, who would beat who, etc etc.

Compared to some of the other guys you mentioned like Cam, Rupp, etc, I think Asham had a better year and did more for his team. Cote might be tougher than Asham, I won't make that judgement but he's certainly not a better fighter and had a much worse year. Grattan, for the time he was up did ok but nothing to write home about. The Flyers could lose both those guys, sign a top 10 heavy and be set as far as fighting goes in 3 weight classes with Carcillo, Asham, and ......Booger? That would be a scary threesome but the bonus is Carcillo and Asham can play the game, Cote is useless and Grattan is pretty useless also.

Again, just my opinion and I am a Flyers fan also.
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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OK, so are we basing the list off of the individual's performance during the most recent season, or judging the careers of those currently in the NHL - becuase I can't see how anyone would still justify BGL as #1 after this last year. In any regard, here is my Top 10 based on this past season:

1. Wade Belak 8-2-1: Quality over quantity, dropped Brash and worked Boogey
2. Colton Orr 12-4-2: Some inconsistent losses, but a solid year
3. Eric Godard 11-5-5: Showed weakness, but is still a giant killer
4. Derek Boogaard 6-2-1: Fairly inactive*, but quality opposition
5. Donald Brashear 6-3-2: Pretty weak opponents, dropped by Belak
6. Michael Rupp 9-5-2: Very solid year, won over Orr
7. Georges Laraque 6-2-1: Very lackluster year, not a lot of quality opposition, def not champ material
8. Jody Shelley 6-6-4: Started strong, finished weak
9. George Parros 9-7-7: Very proactive, bad losses to Hordi and Storts
10. Eric Boulton 5-5-4-2: OK year, loss to Brash and Rupp (x2)

*Boogaard was not nearly as active this year, but that may be attributable to the fact that he had a tear in his right shoulder since November, so I'll give him a break. That and he fought more quality opponents than both Brash and BGL - Yes, I am a homer, and I am not affraid to admit it.
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OK, so are we basing the list off of the individual's performance during the most recent season, or judging the careers of those currently in the NHL - becuase I can't see how anyone would still justify BGL as #1 after this last year. In any regard, here is my Top 10 based on this past season:

1. Wade Belak 8-2-1: Quality over quantity, dropped Brash and worked Boogey
2. Colton Orr 12-4-2: Some inconsistent losses, but a solid year
3. Eric Godard 11-5-5: Showed weakness, but is still a giant killer
4. Derek Boogaard 6-2-1: Fairly inactive*, but quality opposition
5. Donald Brashear 6-3-2: Pretty weak opponents, dropped by Belak
6. Michael Rupp 9-5-2: Very solid year, won over Orr
7. Georges Laraque 6-2-1: Very lackluster year, not a lot of quality opposition, def not champ material
8. Jody Shelley 6-6-4: Started strong, finished weak
9. George Parros 9-7-7: Very proactive, bad losses to Hordi and Storts
10. Eric Boulton 5-5-4-2: OK year, loss to Brash and Rupp (x2)

*Boogaard was not nearly as active this year, but that may be attributable to the fact that he had a tear in his right shoulder since November, so I'll give him a break. That and he fought more quality opponents than both Brash and BGL - Yes, I am a homer, and I am not affraid to admit it.
How about Ivanans who had a 8-1-6 record.
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How about Ivanans who had a 8-1-6 record.
I should have given him a better look. He just tends to fly under the radar and you don't hear much about him (at least I don't). I think, in retrospect, I would swap him for Boulton. For some reason Boulton just stuck in my head this year, so I gave him the nod. Ivanans should probably sneek in at #8 on my list - bumping Shelley to #9, Parros to #10, and Boulton off the list.

Thanks for making my list a bit more credible.
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Old 05-08-2009, 05:53 PM
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I should have given him a better look. He just tends to fly under the radar and you don't hear much about him (at least I don't). I think, in retrospect, I would swap him for Boulton. For some reason Boulton just stuck in my head this year, so I gave him the nod. Ivanans should probably sneek in at #8 on my list - bumping Shelley to #9, Parros to #10, and Boulton off the list.

Thanks for making my list a bit more credible.
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2. Roster spot.
3. Time, being an alleged top-10 HW in many posters minds.
4. Fabric, the Chinese girl who stiched up his sweater could have sold her body on the streets of Beijing to any American tourist for double the $, half the time.
5. The Earth, his farts probably tears the Ozon layer apart more than the Tjernobyl accident. Send him back to Murmansk.

For entertainment, check out clydefrog's post's. As far as fighting, Stortini seems like a good option for the moment.
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Ivanans may not be the most exciting fighter to watch but he knows how to win fights and is a top ten tough guy in my opinion.. In 3 seasons in the NHL he has not lost that many fights while fighting regularly every season against a lot of the top guys...
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Ivanans may not be the most exciting fighter to watch but he knows how to win fights and is a top ten tough guy in my opinion.. In 3 seasons in the NHL he has not lost that many fights while fighting regularly every season against a lot of the top guys...
He's a BGL without the wins.

Who needs that kind of thing?
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OK, so are we basing the list off of the individual's performance during the most recent season, or judging the careers of those currently in the NHL - becuase I can't see how anyone would still justify BGL as #1 after this last year. In any regard, here is my Top 10 based on this past season:

1. Wade Belak 8-2-1: Quality over quantity, dropped Brash and worked Boogey
2. Colton Orr 12-4-2: Some inconsistent losses, but a solid year
3. Eric Godard 11-5-5: Showed weakness, but is still a giant killer
4. Derek Boogaard 6-2-1: Fairly inactive*, but quality opposition
5. Donald Brashear 6-3-2: Pretty weak opponents, dropped by Belak
6. Michael Rupp 9-5-2: Very solid year, won over Orr
7. Georges Laraque 6-2-1: Very lackluster year, not a lot of quality opposition, def not champ material
8. Jody Shelley 6-6-4: Started strong, finished weak
9. George Parros 9-7-7: Very proactive, bad losses to Hordi and Storts
10. Eric Boulton 5-5-4-2: OK year, loss to Brash and Rupp (x2)

*Boogaard was not nearly as active this year, but that may be attributable to the fact that he had a tear in his right shoulder since November, so I'll give him a break. That and he fought more quality opponents than both Brash and BGL - Yes, I am a homer, and I am not affraid to admit it.
rupp at 6???
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rupp at 6???
I know, it doesn't seem right; but I based it off of the records from the past season as well as the quality of opponents faced. When it came down to it, Rupp had a pretty good year - he had some notable victories (a win over Orr) and faced mainly top-tier competition, all the while maintaining a respectable win-loss record. BGL fans may cry foul, but I don't think anyone can debate the fact that Rupp had the better year (this year).
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I know, it doesn't seem right; but I based it off of the records from the past season as well as the quality of opponents faced. When it came down to it, Rupp had a pretty good year - he had some notable victories (a win over Orr) and faced mainly top-tier competition, all the while maintaining a respectable win-loss record. BGL fans may cry foul, but I don't think anyone can debate the fact that Rupp had the better year (this year).
lmao rupp at 6? BGL didnt have a great season but he had a better season then rupp with a better card then rupp aswell.. and laraque was injured for 90% of the season
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