The Top 10 Thread

[Killah_punk]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan 27

eric boulton is having a good season

Same with Matt Walker.

[Philly Fan 27]

there you go, id probably rank both of them ahead of peters and rupp. although rupps year has been pretty good, i just hate him b/c acts like he hates fighting.

[Taubi]

Yeah, Ivanans, Walker or Boulton, but not PETERS!!!
maybe Rupp at 10.

[pbag]

Originally Posted by Killah_punk

Same with Matt Walker.

Yup. He's having a good season, un-noticed.

[TaskerVsSenn]

Originally Posted by Taubi

Peters and Rupp???

Rupp has been ok I guess but no chance in hell he's top 10. Please give me some good arguments on why Peters has anything to do on a top 10 list?

[PHoward]

Originally Posted by pbag

I made up a point system, just for fun. It was hard to decide what to reward, so some important things does not show in this list, TKO'ing Brashear etc.. And some category's obviously only applies to a certain weight-class. It may also be a "bit" skewed since i used the voting on this site as source. I would love to post the complete list, but it's excel based and contains roughly 60 names. So i settled for a top 15 HW list. I may have left some names out, but i assure they wouldn't make any impact on the top 10 list anyways.

Here's the criterias i used:

Fighting up in class win 5
Fighting up in class loss -3
Fighting up in class draw 2
Fighting down in class win 4
Fighting down in class loss -10
Fighting down in class draw -1
Fighting equal class win 5
Fighting equal class draw 1
Fighting equal class loss -5
Win %, 50%= 50 points and so on.
6-10 FM's = 1
11-15 = 1,5
16-20 = 2
21-25 = 2,5

1 Colton Orr 124,5
2 Wade Belak 120,5
3 Eric Godard 109
4 Cam Janssen 102
5 Matt walker 102
6 Derek Boogaard 97
7 Georges Laraque 87
8 Donald Brashear 85,5
9 Steve MacIntyre 84
10 George Parros 76
11 Raitis Ivanans 70
12 Jody Shelley 69
13 Shawn Thornton 68
14 Chris Neil 48,5
15 Mitch Fritz 43,5

Like i said, what you feel should be rewarded is very important. It may vary from person to person.

I like the formula. Is it only for heavies? Tootoo has 5 wins, 0 losses and 4draws on the season. Every one of them against a taller opponent and Burrows is the only guy he outweighted (by only 3lbs) All that being said, should he not be rated on the above list? I'm sure there are some other little guys in the league that rank high.

This year he has really stepped up. It seems he was getting killed in 1 out of every 4 fights. This year he is owning everyone.

[pbag]

Originally Posted by PHoward

I like the formula. Is it only for heavies? Tootoo has 5 wins, 0 losses and 4draws on the season. Every one of them against a taller opponent and Burrows is the only guy he outweighted (by only 3lbs) All that being said, should he not be rated on the above list? I'm sure there are some other little guys in the league that rank high.

This year he has really stepped up. It seems he was getting killed in 1 out of every 4 fights. This year he is owning everyone.

No you can use it on MW's as well. That's why i have the "fighting up in class" category, and the fight down in class. Problem is, it's ton's of work thats why i decided only to post a top-15 HW list.

[brad houghton]

Originally Posted by pbag

I made up a point system, just for fun. It was hard to decide what to reward, so some important things does not show in this list, TKO'ing Brashear etc.. And some category's obviously only applies to a certain weight-class. It may also be a "bit" skewed since i used the voting on this site as source. I would love to post the complete list, but it's excel based and contains roughly 60 names. So i settled for a top 15 HW list. I may have left some names out, but i assure they wouldn't make any impact on the top 10 list anyways.

Here's the criterias i used:

Fighting up in class win 5
Fighting up in class loss -3
Fighting up in class draw 2
Fighting down in class win 4
Fighting down in class loss -10
Fighting down in class draw -1
Fighting equal class win 5
Fighting equal class draw 1
Fighting equal class loss -5
Win %, 50%= 50 points and so on.
6-10 FM's = 1
11-15 = 1,5
16-20 = 2
21-25 = 2,5

1 Colton Orr 124,5
2 Wade Belak 120,5
3 Eric Godard 109
4 Cam Janssen 102
5 Matt walker 102
6 Derek Boogaard 97
7 Georges Laraque 87
8 Donald Brashear 85,5
9 Steve MacIntyre 84
10 George Parros 76
11 Raitis Ivanans 70
12 Jody Shelley 69
13 Shawn Thornton 68
14 Chris Neil 48,5
15 Mitch Fritz 43,5

Like i said, what you feel should be rewarded is very important. It may vary from person to person.

interesting pbag and i agree it was probably a tone of work?

what i like is it is a math equation that takes many important factors into account and although there are still subjective elements it begins the process of standards...... i'm sure if people look at the list they might scratch there head a bit at some of the positioning of fighters but i think its a very interesting start

[Gage55]

Originally Posted by pbag

No you can use it on MW's as well. That's why i have the "fighting up in class" category, and the fight down in class. Problem is, it's ton's of work thats why i decided only to post a top-15 HW list.

Well thanks for putting it together. But the clear flaw to it is it doesnt take into consideration how bad someone wins or losses a fight.

I would like to see it done with MW if you ever get the chance all though of you don't want to I understand it's alot of work.

[pbag]

Originally Posted by Gage55

Well thanks for putting it together. But the clear flaw to it is it doesnt take into consideration how bad someone wins or losses a fight.

I would like to see it done with MW if you ever get the chance all though of you don't want to I understand it's alot of work.

Absolutely, but the biggest problem with this list is actually what it's based on.. the voting. If you have any suggestions, feel fre to share, anything to make it better.

When the season ends, i will put together a proper list with intact formulas, some parts are just copy and paste. I have about 30 MW's listed, but i have not sorted out the scoring yet.

[pbag]

Originally Posted by brad houghton

interesting pbag and i agree it was probably a tone of work?

what i like is it is a math equation that takes many important factors into account and although there are still subjective elements it begins the process of standards...... i'm sure if people look at the list they might scratch there head a bit at some of the positioning of fighters but i think its a very interesting start

That was exactly what i did..

And besides that, i could always tamper with the numbers just to get what I want, he he.

[fightingfan]

Originally Posted by pbag

I made up a point system, just for fun. It was hard to decide what to reward, so some important things does not show in this list, TKO'ing Brashear etc.. And some category's obviously only applies to a certain weight-class. It may also be a "bit" skewed since i used the voting on this site as source. I would love to post the complete list, but it's excel based and contains roughly 60 names. So i settled for a top 15 HW list. I may have left some names out, but i assure they wouldn't make any impact on the top 10 list anyways.

Here's the criterias i used:

Fighting up in class win 5
Fighting up in class loss -3
Fighting up in class draw 2
Fighting down in class win 4
Fighting down in class loss -10
Fighting down in class draw -1
Fighting equal class win 5
Fighting equal class draw 1
Fighting equal class loss -5
Win %, 50%= 50 points and so on.
6-10 FM's = 1
11-15 = 1,5
16-20 = 2
21-25 = 2,5

1 Colton Orr 124,5
2 Wade Belak 120,5
3 Eric Godard 109
4 Cam Janssen 102
5 Matt walker 102
6 Derek Boogaard 97
7 Georges Laraque 87
8 Donald Brashear 85,5
9 Steve MacIntyre 84
10 George Parros 76
11 Raitis Ivanans 70
12 Jody Shelley 69
13 Shawn Thornton 68
14 Chris Neil 48,5
15 Mitch Fritz 43,5

Like i said, what you feel should be rewarded is very important. It may vary from person to person.

its cool that you put time into this but that is not that strong of a list. you should try and figure out how to put the right people in the right places by giving points where need be.

[steeldragon]

this is a tough list to make,well here goes,just so you know,i am not basing this on sheer toughness,this is based on the job they do as an enforcer for their respective teams.

#1- Eric Godard- the only sure thing
#2- Colton Orr- high percentage of exiting fights
#3-Wade Belak- handles everyone...everyone.
#4-Jody Shelley-always involved.
#5-Derek Boogaard-intimidation
#6-George Parros-always good times with george.
#7-Raitis Ivanans-rarely loses
#8-Brian Mcgratton-I know...but hes back now.
#9-Darcy Hordichuk-game for anyone,anytime.
#10-Riley Cote-likes it toe-to-toe...

-Honourable Mention_
-no george laraque cause he dosent really act like an enforcer, you gotta do more than win some fights and follow milan lucic around the ice for 5 minutes.
-andrew peters could be on my list but for the amount he plays, i choose mcgratton.
-eric boulton
-david koci
-shawn thornton
-cam jannsen
-zach stortini (he sucks at fighting,but at least he goes everyone)
-andre roy
-krys barch
-steve macintyre(needs a regular spot)

[fightingfan]

Originally Posted by steeldragon

this is a tough list to make,well here goes,just so you know,i am not basing this on sheer toughness,this is based on the job they do as an enforcer for their respective teams.

#1- Eric Godard- the only sure thing
#2- Colton Orr- high percentage of exiting fights
#3-Wade Belak- handles everyone...everyone.
#4-Jody Shelley-always involved.
#5-Derek Boogaard-intimidation
#6-George Parros-always good times with george.
#7-Raitis Ivanans-rarely loses
#8-Brian Mcgratton-I know...but hes back now.
#9-Darcy Hordichuk-game for anyone,anytime.
#10-Riley Cote-likes it toe-to-toe...

-Honourable Mention_
-no george laraque cause he dosent really act like an enforcer, you gotta do more than win some fights and follow milan lucic around the ice for 5 minutes.
-andrew peters could be on my list but for the amount he plays, i choose mcgratton.
-eric boulton
-david koci
-shawn thornton
-cam jannsen
-zach stortini (he sucks at fighting,but at least he goes everyone)
-andre roy
-krys barch
-steve macintyre(needs a regular spot)

shelley 4? mcgrattan? no brash? no bgl? nice try

[steeldragon]

how could i forget donny brash? but brash still will only be honourable mention on my list. i have never once enjoyed watching a donald brashear fight,until just the other day mr.belak changed that,with one solid left. i never appreiciated his fighting style,so...no brash on my list.