The Top 10 Thread

[KiddYidd]

1. BGL
2. Wade Belak
3. Donald Brashear
4. Eric Godard
5. Colton Orr
6. Derek Boogaard
7. George Parros
8. Cam Jannsen
9. Jody Shelley
10. Eric Boulton

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by KiddYidd

1. BGL
2. Wade Belak
3. Donald Brashear
4. Eric Godard
5. Colton Orr
6. Derrick Boogaard
7. George Parros
8. Cam Jannsen
9. Jody Shelley
10. Eric Boulton

Derek* lul

[KiddYidd]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Derek* lul

I knew that didn't sound right..anyway at least I didn't butcher his last name. What the hell is " lul" by the way?

[rondo]

1- Laraque- has to be beat to not be #1
2- Belak-knocking on the door
3- Godard- Solid season and also on the verge.
4- Orr- see above
5- Brashear- still very good but age is creeping in
6-Boogaard- just has not done enough to move any higher
7- Parros- solid very rarely loses badly
8- Ivanans- strong as an ox but needs to get more decesive wins
9- Boulton- having a good season and underrated on this site
10- Shelley- couple of bad losses have dropped him down to # 10

HM- Janssen, Hordichuk, Macintyre.
*Westgarth will crack the top 10 if he stays up for the rest of the season..

[Gage55]

Originally Posted by tomales2

A "little" rude? I really don't care. On this forum if you haven't spent your life posting about hockey fights, and have hundreds if not thousands of posts, you're not considered viable.
Yes, I'm relatively new to hockey being born and raised in California. But I'm learning and am able to clearly understand when bias, and worn out values, rule. I believe I said earlier, and unlike some am capable of admitting to a mistake if one was made, that when I said he wasn't yet in the top 5 I had not seen the Brashear fight. My post-"More than one fight. If he is convincing in this fight, and I haven't seen it yet!!!, I could now see him move to the top 5. But he is not a top 3 guy."
I'll do as you seemingly wish, and just leave the posting to the "experts." Thanks for the welcome.

I don't personally have alot of posts either, but I agree with your top 5 at this point. I don't see one punch elevating a guy from 5th-6th to first. Just my opinion though and I don't have 1000 posts so it may not be valid

[tomales2]

Originally Posted by Gage55

I don't personally have alot of posts either, but I agree with your top 5 at this point. I don't see one punch elevating a guy from 5th-6th to first. Just my opinion though and I don't have 1000 posts so it may not be valid

Thanks for the support. I'll just have to stick to my guns.

[brawls16]

Where was Belak for the last three years? In Toronto, and in most peoples Top10. After the whole Orr situation, many posters hear decided to throw Belak under the bus due to his shying away and spinning attack that he got attached to during his healing process. The fact that he was a Leaf made it that much enjoyable for people here to harp in about it seems.

But guess what, that WAS three years ago. You ask where Belak has been the previous three years, well he's been ontop of his game arguably better than any other fighter, taking down one big name after the next.

We've all agnoliged before that after Orr broke Belak's face, that Wade took some time off to heal and get back into the swing of things. Rightfully so, his face was smashed pretty good. It came to no surprise that after his injury he started that ducking away thing as his confidence was shattered and didn't feel like getting hit hard again, and thats when he faced McGrattan a couple times aswell as Janssen and Dingman. But again, that WAS three years ago.

I've always been a strong supporter for Brian McGrattan and I had him ahead of Belak in my Top10 until this rough patch he's going through. His best fight with Belak was their first time meeting just a couple weeks before that infamous Orr fight. It wasn't until Belak came back from being hurt when McGrattan had Belak in his pocket. I've always wanted to see a Round5 between these two with both guys healthy, and I think when McGrattan comes back next season that we'll get that chance.

Eric Boulton has lost to Belak about 5 times out of their 6 NHL fights. One little draw against Belak isn't that much to tune into seeing as Wade dominates their series. But now considering that Boulton is grabbing peoples 10th spot their lists, it just goes to show that Belak has a firm grasp on the lower end of the list and beyond.

And Cam Janssen isn't push-over either. Wade was beaten soundly by Cam on November, 18th 2006. But this was the point when Belak turned everything around. He has lost arguably only ONCE since that Nov.2006 fight, and that lone loss was just being edged out by Derek Boogaard in just the 1 of their 3 fights. Belak has since beaten Janssen the following three times since then, including the TKO just three weeks ago.

That loss to Janssen at the end of '06 is the exact moment when Belak started this incredible push towards the top. With Belak still in most posters doghouse, it's apparent that he went under the radar in his final 2+ years as a Leaf while he really starting to tear up the league.

This is where he's been, in the hunt the entire time. Brashear was beaten and bloodied by Wade in the past three years. Wade drew out Laraque in a pretty good tussle just last April. He has beaten the very man that broke his will for a while, Colton Orr in two of their past three scraps, even arguably unbeaten by Orr in their 2 fights since the broken nose. He beat out Andrew Peters, he beat out George Parros, and he beat out David Koci bigtime. This being the third year since his huge turn around, he's now added two wins against Boogaard to his resume, a TKO win with Brashear and wins against Hordichuk and Cote.

The past three years is exactly my point. It's taken people this long to realize what he's been doing, fighting the top guys and winning out the vast majority of the time. Belak is already Top3 and in most peoples books it seems now, #1 on the season.

I'm not ripping Eric Godard at all as he's in my Top5.

But he hasn't beaten Brashear in their two fights and he only earned a draw in his only meaningful fight with Laraque. Many would also argue he hasn't beaten Boogaard twice. He has that huge TKO win of course, but their other two fights were a loss and a draw. Like I said before, Godard just puts on too many duds inbetween his wins to be considered a 1,2,3 guy. His past three fights alone against Cote, Laraque and Koci speak for themselves as they've been three consecutive dissapointments.

Godard is great, I love the guy and hope he's with Toronto next season. But he's not #2 infront of either Brashear, Laraque or Belak which was my point that last post. He's does have a close battle with Orr and Boogaard for 3,4 and 5 though with and with Laraque slowing things down, more opportunity to climb.

Beating the two giant rookies is great and exactly the outcome a Top veteran enfrocer should do, but that doesn't catipult him near the top while considering he's lost to nearly all the Top veteran enforcer the past 2+ years in the mean time.

[fightingfan]

new top ten after what happened....

1. belak- knocked the champ out and was top three so he takes it
2. brash- great untill belak
3. bgl- good when healthy
4. godard- strong year slipping a little
5. orr- strong year bad point was godard
6. boogey- alright seems invisible for the most part
7. shelley- strong beginning
8. open
9. open
10. open

belak is one. he knocked out the champ. i dont like belak and im still saying this. if it were cote to knock out brash he would not be champ because he isnt even a contender of the title. last three spots are open for anyone

[Gage55]

Don't count the season as over yet. Still 10-15 games left. I see it unfluencing alot of decisions.

[pbag]

I made up a point system, just for fun. It was hard to decide what to reward, so some important things does not show in this list, TKO'ing Brashear etc.. And some category's obviously only applies to a certain weight-class. It may also be a "bit" skewed since i used the voting on this site as source. I would love to post the complete list, but it's excel based and contains roughly 60 names. So i settled for a top 15 HW list. I may have left some names out, but i assure they wouldn't make any impact on the top 10 list anyways.

Here's the criterias i used:

Fighting up in class win 5
Fighting up in class loss -3
Fighting up in class draw 2
Fighting down in class win 4
Fighting down in class loss -10
Fighting down in class draw -1
Fighting equal class win 5
Fighting equal class draw 1
Fighting equal class loss -5
Win %, 50%= 50 points and so on.
6-10 FM's = 1
11-15 = 1,5
16-20 = 2
21-25 = 2,5

1 Colton Orr 124,5
2 Wade Belak 120,5
3 Eric Godard 109
4 Cam Janssen 102
5 Matt walker 102
6 Derek Boogaard 97
7 Georges Laraque 87
8 Donald Brashear 85,5
9 Steve MacIntyre 84
10 George Parros 76
11 Raitis Ivanans 70
12 Jody Shelley 69
13 Shawn Thornton 68
14 Chris Neil 48,5
15 Mitch Fritz 43,5

Like i said, what you feel should be rewarded is very important. It may vary from person to person.

[shaud19]

Looking at your list, the system seem good, but time consuming...

[McLovin]

1. Wade Belak
2. Georges Laraque
3. Eric Godard
4. Donald Brashear
5. Colton Orr
6. Derek Boogaard
7. Jody Shelley
8. Andrew Peters
9. George Parros
10. Michael Rupp

[Taubi]

Peters and Rupp???

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Taubi

Peters and Rupp???

Who else would be there?

Shawn Thornton? too many losses, to to many easy opponents.
Riley Cote? Punching Bag.
Steve MacIntyre? too inactive, KO'd
Mitch Fritz? Not active enough.
Darcy Hordichuk? poop
Cam Janssen? Too many losses, inconsistent
Chris Neil? poop
Wade Brookbank? Inconsistent
Raitis Ivanans? Could be on the list, if you want.
David Koci? Could be on the list, if you want.

[Philly Fan 27]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Who else would be there?

Shawn Thornton? too many losses, to to many easy opponents.
Riley Cote? Punching Bag.
Steve MacIntyre? too inactive, KO'd
Mitch Fritz? Not active enough.
Darcy Hordichuk? poop
Cam Janssen? Too many losses, inconsistent
Chris Neil? poop
Wade Brookbank? Inconsistent
Raitis Ivanans? Could be on the list, if you want.
David Koci? Could be on the list, if you want.

eric boulton is having a good season