The Top 10 Thread

[Philo Beddoe]

there is nothing more i'd like to see than godard really take it to brash. however, i just don't see it happening.i guess we will hopefully find out sunday night

[brawls16]

Wade Belak is pushing for a Top3 finish this year, and he has quite the March schedule ahead of him to further prove himself as one of the best.

10th - Donald Brashear
12th - Colton Orr
14th - Todd Fedoruk
16th - Raitas Ivanans
18th - George Parros
19th - Jody Shelley
24th - George Parros
26th - Jody Shelley
28th - Raitis Ivanans

Parros, Ivanans and Shelley.....in 6 games he faces those 3 guys twice.

[tomales2]

Originally Posted by brawls16

Wade Belak is pushing for a Top3 finish this year, and he has quite the March schedule ahead of him to further prove himself as one of the best.

10th - Donald Brashear
12th - Colton Orr
14th - Todd Fedoruk
16th - Raitas Ivanans
18th - George Parros
19th - Jody Shelley
24th - George Parros
26th - Jody Shelley
28th - Raitis Ivanans

Parros, Ivanans and Shelley.....in 6 games he faces those 3 guys twice.

That is a tough schedule, isn't it? I can understand your allegiance to Belak as I'm the same way with Shelley. But I just don't feel, at least at this point, that he's even a top 5 guy. He's definitely an excellent scrapper, and has been for a long time. But look at his fight log this year. With the exception of Boogaard, who he matches up quite well with, he hasn't fought any other top ten guys. It's just not that impressive.
Except for his possible bouts with Shelley, I do hope he does well as I tend to favor older fighters, long proven.
P.S: He may have to fight Westgarth, bad news for everyone except Kings' fans, as Ivanans is injured I believe

[Killah_punk]

Originally Posted by brawls16

Wade Belak is pushing for a Top3 finish this year, and he has quite the March schedule ahead of him to further prove himself as one of the best.

14th - Todd Fedoruk

The fridge aint going to fight Belak, he barely even fights anymore. I will agree thou Belak is having a solid season it would be nice to see him a bit more active thou.

[fightingfan]

Originally Posted by tomales2

That is a tough schedule, isn't it? I can understand your allegiance to Belak as I'm the same way with Shelley. But I just don't feel, at least at this point, that he's even a top 5 guy. He's definitely an excellent scrapper, and has been for a long time. But look at his fight log this year. With the exception of Boogaard, who he matches up quite well with, he hasn't fought any other top ten guys. It's just not that impressive.
Except for his possible bouts with Shelley, I do hope he does well as I tend to favor older fighters, long proven.
P.S: He may have to fight Westgarth, bad news for everyone except Kings' fans, as Ivanans is injured I believe

belak is deff top five this year. especially when we are having this weak season of top guys

[The Don]

I was hating on Belak earlier this season but damn has he been great. He has to be in the top three at this point with two wins over Boogaard and a TKO win over Brashear.

[rondo]

Originally Posted by rondo

Why are you going off topic? You want to put Orr in the upper echelon and not Godard, right but you have no good explanation as to why. Theres no scientific explanation as to why. Other than the fact that Godard has closed the gap. Just go on a rant and make yourself sound silly (scientific BS) but you gave proved that before. If you forgot, I'll help to remind you. Remember this fall when you got all bent out of shape when I said your boy Andre Roy would have his hands full and have a very difficult season because he is not a top ten HW and the west fighters would expose this. You said I have underrated Roy and he will prove it this year. Well whos laughing now.

Right now I would take Godard over the 37 year old Brashear. They have played a few times this season and not even close to a fight. I am not saying Brash has ducked him but Laraque found Godard and so have all the others. Brash is a all time top guy but personally I would take EG in a series right now.

Well I guess that last paragraph doesn't look so silly now does it. It wasn't Godard but I can see Brash is slowing a bit....

[Boom Boom Belak]

If Belak's knockout over Brashear doesn't make Wade top 3 I don't know what does.

[tomales2]

Originally Posted by Boom Boom Belak

If Belak's knockout over Brashear doesn't make Wade top 3 I don't know what does.

More than one fight. If he is convincing in this fight, and I haven't seen it yet, I could now see him move to the top 5. But he is not a top 3 guy.

[rondo]

The top ten thread is going to get a good wourout the next couple of days I am going to sleep on it tonite. You know the 24 hour thing and then try and put it together. I had Belak 6th in my last one. This tko over a top guy has got to move him up but how much. His card lacks a bit of quality. Cote, Rupp, Jannsen, Hordichuk, Stortini all pretty solid but not one is in my top 10. sayin that he beat all of them........

[Boom Boom Belak]

Originally Posted by tomales2

More than one fight. If he is convincing in this fight, and I haven't seen it yet, I could now see him move to the top 5. But he is not a top 3 guy.

in the past two years he has wins over orr, boogaard, brashear, parros, Draw with Laraque. That's pretty impressive.

[stinkeru]

Originally Posted by Boom Boom Belak

in the past two years he has wins over orr, boogaard, brashear, parros, Draw with Laraque. That's pretty impressive.

And then look at his losses. It's academic since this is a ranking thread for THIS year, and not living in the past

[Boom Boom Belak]

Originally Posted by stinkeru

And then look at his losses. It's academic since this is a ranking thread for THIS year, and not living in the past

He's lost once this year.

[tomales2]

Originally Posted by Boom Boom Belak

He's lost once this year.

Actually, since you were speaking of multiple years I think he (stinky) was including those years with the losses. He's lost twice this year, and it wasn't technically a draw with Laraque though realistically one could say it was. The loss to Sutton, especially, last year was suspect.
Let's not argue about it. He's having a great year. You believe he's top 3, I say top 5 now. We just disagree

[brawls16]

Originally Posted by tomales2

That is a tough schedule, isn't it? I can understand your allegiance to Belak as I'm the same way with Shelley. But I just don't feel, at least at this point, that he's even a top 5 guy. He's definitely an excellent scrapper, and has been for a long time. But look at his fight log this year. With the exception of Boogaard, who he matches up quite well with, he hasn't fought any other top ten guys. It's just not that impressive.
Except for his possible bouts with Shelley, I do hope he does well as I tend to favor older fighters, long proven.
P.S: He may have to fight Westgarth, bad news for everyone except Kings' fans, as Ivanans is injured I believe

Wow, not too sure where to start on this one.

First of all, going into this year who the hell thought anyone can beat Derek Boogaard, TWICE? That's something we've only seen from Georges Laraque, and Belak has fought Laraque SIX times over the years with roughly 6 draws. Who the hell has fought Laraque 6 times and NOT come out of it beaten and battered? Belak has easily the best record against BGL, other than of course Donald Brashear.

And as for the Champion Donald Brashear, well nobody has ever stood up to Donny like Belak has. He easily has the best record against the Champion out of anyone. TWICE in a row he's beaten the Champion. He bloodied him up the last time and now dropped his ass this time!

In the past 3 seasons against Brashear, Laraque and Boogaard, Belak has 4 wins 3 draws and only 1 loss against those three. By far the best results ever for anybody that has even come close to fighting those three.

Your use of words like 'not impressive' is a joke. I'm sorry Tomales, but you just aren't seeing things clearly.

Two wins over Cam Janssen this year including a TKO just 28 days ago still doesn't do it for you? How about his wins over Eric Godard, Jody Shelley, Riley Cote, George Parros, Darcy Hordichuk, Andrew Peters, Eric Boulton, David Koci, etc...

And then there's Belaks great 4-fight series against Colton Orr which currently stands at a draw.

To say Belak doesn't fight Top10 guys and even going as far as saying he's not even Top5 does only 1 thing I'm afraid, and that's prove that you're an idiot.

BTW, remember Belaks two fights with the All-Time King, Bob Probert?

Get your head on straight man, Belak holds the best record against THE BEST fighters in the NHL.