Ryan Miller's revenge

[jp4202003]

carried out by John Scott of course

On January 31st Sabres at Bruins

Will Milan Lucic and John Scott fight in this game? Its a fair match-up and in my opinion Lucic has to take it for what he did to Miller.

Yes, I say that it will definitely happen man. Thoughts?

[Stevens Lindros]

Lucic should but won't, and I don't want to see another Bertuzzi incident where a guy's back is turned and you suckerpunch him then pile drive him into the ice. Lucic being forced to fight Scott from the front or at least getting punched in the face seems reasonable though if the game gets out of hand either way or Lucic touches Miller again.

[Phila26Flyers]

Well John Scott wasn't on the team last year, so I'm not sure if he will. If he wants to endear himself to his teammates, Lindy Ruff, and the fans, he will go after Lucic. I'm not counting on it though. He was brought in as a preventative measure, not a retroactive one.

[nilan30]

I think Lucic beats him

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

Well John Scott wasn't on the team last year, so I'm not sure if he will. If he wants to endear himself to his teammates, Lindy Ruff, and the fans, he will go after Lucic. I'm not counting on it though. He was brought in as a preventative measure, not a retroactive one.

Agreed.

IMO the team felt that after Gaustad went with Lucic way after the incident that it was put to rest.

Like phila said... that's all water under the bridge... if something like that happens again, well then it will be Scotts role to address it I guess.

That being said, so far this short season, they have been more active in sticking up for each other (see Stafford vs Hartnell)... in fact, that seems to be a common theme across the league. There have been several fights as a result of a questionable/big hit etc... that's good for all of us fight fans.

[Jack Schitt]

I actually watched (parts) of my first game of the season ... and the Sabres sure looked like the same uninspired group of softies that they were over the last few seasons.

I had read about all the "grit" they were going to have now. I had read how tough they were going to be to play against. I had read how they were now sticking up for each other ( as supposedly evidenced by Stafford challenging Hartnell and losing). I saw NONE of that. I had heard on sports talk radio, and read in the paper etc how they were going to avenge the loss at the hands of the Canes the night before. What I saw was Kaleta up to his old yappy, diving ways. A super soft defense that rarely hits and gets out muscled easily. An " enforcer" who is too timid. Ott get embarrassingly rag dolled... so lame in fact that I don't think a vid was even put up inYSTB as of yet....I saw pokes taken at Miller and all the perpetrator got was a stern look. I saw Ruff revert to his old ways. - rolling 3 soft lines. In short - this is the same soft ass team it was before. Nothing has changed. He'll, they even resigned a guy they had let go, and he logged almost 20 min toi. They gave Regier, the architect of these crap teams - to a contract extension. Don't believe the hype. Nothing has changed.

/rant

[shaud19]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

Well John Scott wasn't on the team last year, so I'm not sure if he will. If he wants to endear himself to his teammates, Lindy Ruff, and the fans, he will go after Lucic. I'm not counting on it though. He was brought in as a preventative measure, not a retroactive one.

I disagree. I think the whole reason Scott is a Sabre is all thanks to Lucic. There is still lingering talk about the incident, and Scott will cleap up (hopefully). Gausatd fighting Lucic was a embarrassment.

I agree with Mr. Schitt Buffalo still seems soft even after all the so called "toughness" that was added. The Bruin game will be important to see how much (or little) this time has grown.


On January 31st, 2013, there will be BLOOD

[Broons66]

Won't be any blood, unless it's Kaletas or Otts spilled. I'm certain that Lucic will do whatever he pleases, and there's nothing Scott will do about it. You have to be on the ice to be a deterrent. Scott might see 5 minutes of ice time against the B's.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by shaud19

I disagree. I think the whole reason Scott is a Sabre is all thanks to Lucic. There is still lingering talk about the incident, and Scott will cleap up (hopefully). Gausatd fighting Lucic was a embarrassment.

I agree with Mr. Schitt Buffalo still seems soft even after all the so called "toughness" that was added. The Bruin game will be important to see how much (or little) this time has grown.


On January 31st, 2013, there will be BLOOD

I think we have some mixed messages here. What I - and I can't speak for him but my impression was phila was on the same page- was saying is yes , John Scott was most definitely picked up to try and remedy the lack of toughness that was exposed by the Bruins and Lucic/ Miller in particular. That being said... IMO the Sabres have moved on from that and are trying to put that in the past. Them supposedly toughening up was to keep such things from happening in. The future, not to try and exact revenge for the past.

Seriously, they don't want to go down that road with the Bruins. Scott is a questionable commodity to me at this point- and who do they have after him? Ott? Kaleta? Stafford lmao? Unless Scott finally proves himself and beats Thornton, then Lucic, then Chara, then McQuaid, Campbell, Horton, Ference etc...

If McCormick is healthy that helps a bit- providing they were both dressed. They lost Finley on waivers, so he's not even a call up option.

Face it... Scott is the only hope they have, and he's unproven, unconfrontational, uninspired, and getting dropped by body shots. The fact that a few people had this team as one of the toughest is laughable.


/ 2nd rant

[Sugden Flu]

After watching Looch drop Carkner and Orr put down Scott with a body punch I welcome this fight. Scott is big & mean, but in my opinion, Lucic is the superior technical fighter. He's not exactly a small guy either. If Scott thinks Lucic didn't notice how susceptible he is to the kidney shot he's in for a surprise. That might be good game for him to break out the flack jacket.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by Broons66

Won't be any blood, unless it's Kaletas or Otts spilled. I'm certain that Lucic will do whatever he pleases, and there's nothing Scott will do about it. You have to be on the ice to be a deterrent. Scott might see 5 minutes of ice time against the B's.

If an enforcer is willing, ice time means ****. You can do what needs to be done in 30 seconds, you don't need 18 minutes. The question now is, is Scott willing and able? That is a huge question mark for me.
I'm not gonna lie. The Bruins are badass. They have a lot of weapons and keep coming at you. The only way I see that stopping in this case would be if Scott dropped Thornton, them Looch. The rest would fall in line after that IMO . The flaw in that plan is I don't think he can do it.

[shaud19]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

I think we have some mixed messages here. What I - and I can't speak for him but my impression was phila was on the same page- was saying is yes , John Scott was most definitely picked up to try and remedy the lack of toughness that was exposed by the Bruins and Lucic/ Miller in particular. That being said... IMO the Sabres have moved on from that and are trying to put that in the past. Them supposedly toughening up was to keep such things from happening in. The future, not to try and exact revenge for the past.

Seriously, they don't want to go down that road with the Bruins. Scott is a questionable commodity to me at this point- and who do they have after him? Ott? Kaleta? Stafford lmao? Unless Scott finally proves himself and beats Thornton, then Lucic, then Chara, then McQuaid, Campbell, Horton, Ference etc...

If McCormick is healthy that helps a bit- providing they were both dressed. They lost Finley on waivers, so he's not even a call up option.

Face it... Scott is the only hope they have, and he's unproven, unconfrontational, uninspired, and getting dropped by body shots. The fact that a few people had this team as one of the toughest is laughable.


/ 2nd rant

Very true! From reading other posts it seems clear Scott fights because he has to, not for the heck of it... gentle giant. Anyways, I can only hope Scott gets motivated to fight the Bruins. Scott can endear himself to the fans if he shows some meanness by pummeling Lucic. I think I've been boosting Scoot too much. Sabre fans want a bad ass guy who doesn't take schitt and sticks up for teammates, there is potential for that here. As I said January 31 is a crucial game.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by shaud19

Very true! From reading other posts it seems clear Scott fights because he has to, not for the heck of it... gentle giant. Anyways, I can only hope Scott gets motivated to fight the Bruins. Scott can endear himself to the fans if he shows some meanness by pummeling Lucic. I think I've been boosting Scoot too much. Sabre fans want a bad ass guy who doesn't take schitt and sticks up for teammates, there is potential for that here. As I said January 31 is a crucial game.

Pummeling Lucic is easy to talk about... not so easy to do in real life! Plus, he'd have to deal with Thornton first, and I'm not even sure he could get that done either!


Is that game in Boston?

Should be interesting anyway. I won't watch a game until then. What I saw last night after all the hype sickened me. Same old same old.

[cookie monster]

My prediction?

It's not John Scott that gets revenge, but Steve Ott. The first chance that guy gets, he's taking a run at Tuukka Rask and then hiding behind the ref with his "who me?" face.

Ott has only played a few games against the Bruins the past few years, and each time he has run guys, hit low and agitated then to the point of distraction. He drives the Bruins nuts. Then he will beat up Greg Campbell again.

I think if Scott's on the ice, Thornton goes after him before anything gets to Lucic. Let's not forget, Scott said about Thornton ...

“He’s Mr. Tough Guy and he’s trying to challenge Pisani. If I’m in the lineup, he’s more than welcome to come chirp at me. I’ll kick the [bleep] out of him.”

Something tells me Shawn Thornton isn't going to forget that comment...

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

If an enforcer is willing, ice time means ****. You can do what needs to be done in 30 seconds, you don't need 18 minutes. The question now is, is Scott willing and able? That is a huge question mark for me.
I'm not gonna lie. The Bruins are badass. They have a lot of weapons and keep coming at you. The only way I see that stopping in this case would be if Scott dropped Thornton, them Looch. The rest would fall in line after that IMO . The flaw in that plan is I don't think he can do it.

Well, it will be entertaining to see Scott see ice time against Boston's first line. Or maybe he catches Lucic between a line change. I still see Scott has more of a "nuclear missile", than a productive 4th line player. Boston's 4th line on the other hand sees quality minutes even in close games. So we will see.