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The order is just my opinion, but as for the players in bold.... are you serious?
Those guys in bold all are better fighters than Krys Barch.
Barch probably is the worst fighter of the HW class.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:39 PM
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The order is just my opinion, but as for the players in bold.... are you serious?
Really? Krys Barch at 4? I love the guys willingness and I think he's a decent fighter but he's nowhere near the top 5.

As for Rupp, anyone who thinks a guy who fights the Colton Orrs, Eric Godards, Matt Carkners, John Erskines, and Wade Belaks of the league is anything less than a HW needs to seriously pull their head of their ass. A few years back, like his NJ days, yeah I could see arguing that his card wasn't good enough to be a HW but since then he's not only been more willing, he's done a lot better for himself and put up victories against some top tier guys. No way in hell he's not a HW.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:56 PM
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See my point? Some of them didn't really fight this year that much and some ppl won't consider 2 or 3 of them as a HW. That's why to me for this new NHL, HW and LHW should be in the same category. That way it'll be tough to make it to top 10. Also you out Scott on #5? How? He fought only 5 times and none of them against those top 13 you listed. That's my point.
Fair point, fair point.

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Most people in this thread have considered Thorburn a low tier HW. Also your top 10 list is terrible.
Here's the only time Thorburn has done anything remotely HW-worthy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01ZdPaJOdE

As for my top 10 list being terrible, since you'd clearly put Rupp on your top 10, your opinion in that regard means nothing to me.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:07 PM
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Those guys in bold all are better fighters than Krys Barch.
Barch probably is the worst fighter of the HW class.
Barch vs. Parros

Barch vs. Rosehill

Not to mention, Barch fights the best on a regular basis, the guys you mentioned do not. Barch will fight anyone.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:10 PM
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Really? Krys Barch at 4? I love the guys willingness and I think he's a decent fighter but he's nowhere near the top 5.

As for Rupp, anyone who thinks a guy who fights the Colton Orrs, Eric Godards, Matt Carkners, John Erskines, and Wade Belaks of the league is anything less than a HW needs to seriously pull their head of their ass. A few years back, like his NJ days, yeah I could see arguing that his card wasn't good enough to be a HW but since then he's not only been more willing, he's done a lot better for himself and put up victories against some top tier guys. No way in hell he's not a HW.
What part of top 10 this year do you not understand?

Also, this pissed me off, Rupp thinks he's an all-star apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRk1InwRxM

Rupp's stats

Shelley's stats
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:35 AM
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What part of top 10 this year do you not understand?

Also, this pissed me off, Rupp thinks he's an all-star apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRk1InwRxM

Rupp's stats

Shelley's stats
There is no also about it. You are still so bitter about what Rupp said that you can't help but make a mockery of a top ten. I was wondering if Rupp was involved in the top 10 for this year and after seeing the names a hater came up with to exclude him.

Boll? 16 fights, 4-8-4 record. Wins against Thorburn, Jackman, Brookbank, and Montador.

Shelley?????? 5 fights. 0-1-4 record. Wins against nobody.

Carkner? 3 fights. 2-1 record. Wins against Adam Hall and Mark Stuart. He is out of the equation with that joke of a year.

Rupp. 11 fights, not counting the Kopecky incident. 5-3-3 record. Wins against Boulton, Bollig, MacDermid, Janssen, and Thornton.

Are you for real? Rupp has one less win than Shelley, Boll, and Carkner combined. He has more wins over heavyweights than those three combined, considering that those three have no wins against heavyweights. Rupp had trouble with Thorburn one night. That sucks but the only loss he had other than that night was to Parros. Hatred can be blinding at times.

Meanwhile Lucic is nowhere to be seen on your list. He is 6-0 and even if his only wins worth noting are against Carkner, Sestito, and Prust that is still plenty compared to the guys you listed.
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he is def a heavy weight.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:11 PM
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Rupp is a HW (started putting together a good card in his last year in NJ and expanded on it once he got to Pittsburgh), but don't confuse him with someone his a feared HW. Rupp can beat a good fighter, but he'll never destroy one.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:23 PM
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Mike Rupp isn't the typical top 10 enforcer, but he's far from being the worst heavyweight either.

For some reasons, he normally does well against reputable fighters like Shawn Thornton, Eric Boulton and such fighters, but he'll get beaten twice in the same night by a feared superheavyweight fighter like Chris Thorburn...

But I still take him on my team anyday before guys like Krys Barch, Kevin Westgarth, Paul Bissonnette or Jay Rosehill...

I wouldn't mind having Rupper and Staubitz on the same team. It'd be a 1-2 punch.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:02 PM
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Michael Rupp is easily Top10, this season. As is Krys Barch.
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Michael Rupp is easily Top10, this season. As is Krys Barch.
this speaks to the sad state of the top 10
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:01 AM
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There's several guys with better fight cards to put in front of him. Jared Boll, Jody Shelley, and Krys Barch are all HW's. In fact, they fight more HW's than Rupp. He's #11 or 12 imo.

lol...and you wonder why not a single person on here takes you seriously...please go get yourself some knowledge then come back and play with the big boys...clueless
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:03 PM
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this speaks to the sad state of the top 10
That's obvious.

No Derek Boogaard, Colton Orr, Steve MacIntyre, Eric Godard and Trevor Gillies sure have diminished the Top10's value. But that also doesn't take away from what the remaining fighters have done.

In Michael Rupp's case, he's beat Eric Boulton twice, Shawn Thornton and Cam Janssen while drawing Biz Nasty and Janssen in a second go. That's really impressive. His only blemishes are a loss to Parros and two fights against Thorburn which weren't good fights anyhow.

While Krys Barch has beaten George Parros, Cam Janssen, Brandon Prust, Jay Rosehill and Ryan Clowe while drawing with Shawn Thornton, Jody Shelley, Aaron Asham and Jim Vandermeer.

Those results from both shouldn't go un-noticed of not under valued.

I see posters throwing out names like Shelley, Carkner and Hordihuck in their Top10's, but they're fightcards don't come close to Rupp and Barch's this season, not even close.

The Top10 isn't what it use to be, but that doesn't mean other fighters don't deserve their spot on the list, no matter that the state of the NHL is today.
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What the hell is up with Carkner? does he even play?
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What the hell is up with Carkner? does he even play?
Not really. It's terrible but honestly Neil and Konopka are both usually very willing so they can take on most teams.
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