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Old 10-13-2009, 04:23 PM
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Don't let you fool by the avatar anyways...I'm no homer at all, actually I predict the Bruins to fall flat on their faces this season...dreaming of the Cup is not good IMO.

Just look at what season they had last year...I doubt Thomas can repeat a Vezina Trophy season and Chara a Norris Trophy season. They overachieved last year and IMO they are not as good as most fans in Boston might think.

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dude most of the fans on this site love asham and lucic. I like lucic alot myself. i do think asham would win a few over him with some draws and lucic a few wins. the only way to honestly settle this is hope asham and lucic fight next wk when they meet up. something i know id want to see and most everyone else would want to see
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:37 PM
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Asham would beat him silly then Lucic's hands would hurt too bad after that and his gloves in cement.

1-0-0 Smashem......
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:03 PM
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Lucic takes Asham in the series. Asham is a good fighter and has the ability to upset any fighter in the NHL as he has good power in his punches and throws quickly and is very aggressive. But Lucic is just a wall, huge upper body and I see him standing his ground and exchanging with Asham and Asham getting knocked off balance or dropped at least once in the majority of the fights.

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Old 10-13-2009, 07:06 PM
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Crow - No offense to you and Sukoshi, but it's 'n, not n'. This bothers me. A lot.

Oh, and Lucic would own Asham in a ten-fight series.
I copied suko's style. It's his fault.

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Light heavyweights acting as the teams heavyweight? Good enough fighters to take on the other teams heavies. Just because they are the #1 guy on their respective teams, does not mean they are "heavyweights". What happens if a team has a #1 guy (superb fighter) who is 5' 9" ? Is he a heavyweight?
If they fight almost all heavyweights, and are the best fighter on the eam, it's safe to say they're heavies.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:02 PM
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I'm a little surprised at how many think this series would be really close. Don't get me wrong, I like Asham a lot, but he wouldn't be in great shape here. His rep is largely built (and rightfully so) on beating most middles, and doing well against Chris Neil and Cam Janssen, but if you notice there is a similarity there. All of those guys are around his size. He doesn't fare quite as well with the bigger guys with longer reach. I'm thinking this would be somewhere in the 4-2-4 range, maybe 5-1-4. Something like that. The good news is I have a strong feeling we will see this fight this year. Next Thursday perhaps?
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:20 PM
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No way Asham, 5'10", 196lbs can hang with a power forward who stands at 6'3'' and 205 lbs. Looch has too much power behind him

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Old 10-14-2009, 03:50 PM
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No way Asham, 5'10", 196lbs can hang with a power forward who stands at 6'3'' and 205 lbs. Looch has too much power behind him

Lucic: 7-1-2
The height and weights on this site are f*cked. Lucic is closer to 6'4 220 and that was his rookie season weigh in. Most people bill him closer to 230 now.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:50 PM
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I'm a little surprised at how many think this series would be really close. Don't get me wrong, I like Asham a lot, but he wouldn't be in great shape here. His rep is largely built (and rightfully so) on beating most middles, and doing well against Chris Neil and Cam Janssen, but if you notice there is a similarity there. All of those guys are around his size. He doesn't fare quite as well with the bigger guys with longer reach. I'm thinking this would be somewhere in the 4-2-4 range, maybe 5-1-4. Something like that. The good news is I have a strong feeling we will see this fight this year. Next Thursday perhaps?
i think its closer then you think...

asham is being underrated in this thread. he is the middleweight champ. he knows how to fight and has alot of power. looch has a beek and i could see asham nailing that a couple times. asham is one of the most accurate punchers in the league

i go asham 3-2-5 it would be a close matchup
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:01 PM
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No way Asham, 5'10", 196lbs can hang with a power forward who stands at 6'3'' and 205 lbs. Looch has too much power behind him

Lucic: 7-1-2
You are high if you think Lucic is only 6'3" and only 205lbs.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:08 PM
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You are high if you think Lucic is only 6'3" and only 205lbs.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:54 PM
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yes. mirasty is a good example
Sorry, I just can't see it. Being the best fighter on a team, doesn't necessarily make him a heavyweight, regardless of who he fights (speaking of any fighter, not only Mirasty).

Theres gotta be more to it , than the opponents one chooses to fight. Far too many variables to me.

Lucic still the winner for me though. Too strong for Asham.

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Old 10-14-2009, 09:07 PM
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i think its closer then you think...

asham is being underrated in this thread. he is the middleweight champ. he knows how to fight and has alot of power. looch has a beek and i could see asham nailing that a couple times. asham is one of the most accurate punchers in the league

i go asham 3-2-5 it would be a close matchup
I think the size difference would really come into play here. Asham does very well against middles and smaller heavies, but doesn't fight guys in the 6'3" 230 range terribly often. He's giving up a lot of size and a lot of reach here, and I just don't see him being able to overcome that against a guy who is also a very good fighter. I'm not saying he couldn't win, but I just don't see him taking too many clear victories from Lucic.

I guess my question to you would be what would Asham's advantage be? Lucic has an equal or better card (if you include pre-NHL), and has suffered fewer losses.
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You are high if you think Lucic is only 6'3" and only 205lbs.
I dont doubt it for a second. I have stood next to him an I am a lot taller than he is. I also doubt Chara is 6'7''. I am sure some of these stats are padded a tad.
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No way Asham, 5'10", 196lbs can hang with a power forward who stands at 6'3'' and 205 lbs. Looch has too much power behind him

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I dont doubt it for a second. I have stood next to him an I am a lot taller than he is. I also doubt Chara is 6'7''. I am sure some of these stats are padded a tad.
Then I guess Asham is 5'7"
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