Donald Brashear

[brad houghton]

Originally Posted by Smashing Machine

yes, but the rules have continued to be in favor of removing fighting and hitting from the game.

the last 2 minutes of a game suspension and fine rule is killing fighting.
the changes to remove passion and hard work from the game is killing fighting. there are less scrums, less hits due to penalties being handed out like crazy. i have seen very few Thrasher games this where they were allowed to play. most games the whistle blows when contact is made. blame the rules, or these are the worst refs in the history of the game.

i don't have the answers, but there'd be less stickwork if the instigator was non existant. there would be less worry on taking a bad penalty and never getting to play anymore on Enforcers. there would be more fighting.

you can't even bump Crosby without getting a dive and a penalty call. that is killing the game as well. while i watch Boulton get hit from behind, slam head first into the boards no call, he gets up bumps the player that did it, whistle.
penalty for being a fighter.

yea i guess it has been a slow evolution of the rules that has led us to this point. the only place where i'm torn is that i love fighting and hitting but hated the hooking and grabbing in the game......its nice to see guys like Hossa and Selane being able to play.......i like open and violent hockey if that makes sense... and i'm sure they could go hand in hand if they dropped the instigator rule.

[Demoman993]

I'll start off by saying that I think that Brashear is a classless hockey player and loves to pick his spots....
BUT
You've got to put him into the top 5 into the league this year, he rarely gets beat and is one of the better technical fighters in the league.
As for his antics, he is gutless, I've seen him jump Kelly Buchberger, take liberties against goal scorers and try and fight them... I can't respect that...
Look at a guy like Bob Probert, he would run goalies, make life hell for 3rd and 4rth liners and generally keep the top line off the ice because people didn't want to be on the ice with him....but he'd always fight the tough guys and they had to be in the same class as him, not Brashear vs Buchberger.
Anyways love him or hate him Brashear is a top five fighter in the league this year but doesn't deserve a top 5 all time that's for sure.

[bristolboy]

Originally Posted by FlyersEnforcer

Why is it that Brashear threads always end up locked, this one probably will to. Brashear is arguably top five fighter in the league. We want to hear what people who know what they are talking about, have to say about the fighter, not from people with 27 post who come in and don't like brashear or who's favorite teams player got beat up by brashear. face it everyone's favorite fighter, or fighter of your team will lose. you don't have to make up stupid excuses like brashear beat up a starting player, spit on the ice, or hit someone while they were down to assume he lost a fight, that doesn't justify losing a fight, a win is a win no matter who they fight or what happens after the fight, or the majority of the fight while standing, what happens when a player is on the Ice doesn't change a winner.

Yeah....just 'cause a guy has only a few posts doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about!! I don't have many posts at all but guess what...IF I POSTED OVER 4 TIMES A DAY FOR A WHOLE YEAR I'd have 1465 posts.....does that mean I now know what I'm talking about.......give your head a shake and think before you type!

From the short time since I found this site I have noticed that the large MAJORITY do know what they're talking about.

Alot of that large majority seem to dislike Brashear. It isn't because he beat their tough guy or any other stupid reason.

It's because he shows no respect towards anybody, but expects others to respect him. He is a guy that claims to be the toughest out there, but only fights who he wants, when he wants to, he does without a doubt duck from guys! He goes to a semi-pro league and beats a guy unconcious, then just keeps on beating...that's a show of class for sure. And it's because he has, for the second year running, managed to duck a fight with La Raque, someone who will fight anybody!!!

But hey, I only have 3 or 4 posts, so that must mean I don't have a clue what I am talking about!!!

[rondo]

Originally Posted by refightfan

WTF last year he was way above 500. He lost I beileve 2 fights one wasn't really a loss. He loss to McGrattan and lost out of pointes to Belak. He also beat Cairns,Oliwa 2,Boogaard,Allison,Orr, Marshall and Godard. He drew Doull IMO. so his record was 8-2-1 plus a unfair fight with Kasper.

He got dropped by Doull loss, Cairins also scored a KD draw/ loss, Godard bloodied him badly draw/loss. He still is one of the best but judge the fights without blinders on.

[nyisles15]

Originally Posted by Rob666

Brashear is having a great season for us fight fans... He had 13 fights all of last year (including Pre-season) he alreaddy has 9 this year.

His card goes like this:

Orr (Win)
Vishnevsky (Win)
Bois (Win)
Parros (Win)
Belak (Draw)
Peters (Loss)
Downey (Win)
Orr (Win)
Shanahan (Win)

6-1-1 so far this year. Impressive in my book especially considering he's 35 now.

Impressive??? F that piece of shyt cheapshot mother f'er. The guy should get 10 games for his dickless suckerpunch attempt at Ward.

[mike2005rulz]

I am neither a Brashear lover or hater but the 1 game suspension kinda shocked me. Brashear has got to have a rap sheet a mile long making him a repeat offender. What kind of message does that suspension send to Brashear or anyone else who wants to just punch a guy in the face. Don't get me wrong I love hockey fights or i wouldn't be here but Brashear is one badd accident away from becoming another Bertuzzi incident with his sucker punching ways.

[Smashing Machine]

Originally Posted by nyisles15

Impressive??? F that piece of shyt cheapshot mother f'er. The guy should get 10 games for his dickless suckerpunch attempt at Ward.

he barely tapped Ward, and Ward goes down like he was shot.

I WISH he would have really nailed that homo.

[nyisles15]

Originally Posted by Smashing Machine

he barely tapped Ward, and Ward goes down like he was shot.

I WISH he would have really nailed that homo.

He still did it in a tactless spineless way. I personally hate Ward myself but don't suckerpunch a guy.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by nyisles15

Impressive??? F that piece of shyt cheapshot mother f'er. The guy should get 10 games for his dickless suckerpunch attempt at Ward.

F Ward. He shouldn't have been running his b*tch mouth.

[nyisles15]

Originally Posted by The Don

F Ward. He shouldn't have been running his b*tch mouth.

I don't know what he said and neither do you but regardless, he[Brashear] showed his true scum colors.

[Smashing Machine]

Originally Posted by nyisles15

He still did it in a tactless spineless way. I personally hate Ward myself but don't suckerpunch a guy.

I think it's okay when it's two turds in the same bowl.

The Caps are dirty, and the Rags are dirty. Brashear cheap shots / picks spots etc etc. Orr deserves any whipping he gets. Ward deserves any suckerpunch he gets. And I wouldn't cry if someone hacked Brashear again. Jagr deserves to get roughed up and so does Ovy.

I was happy there were incidents in this game.

So..I look at who it is happening to, and Ward deserves it, Brashears only fault was that he did not lose it, and really hurt the guy.

Ever see Brashear sucker puch Lappy many years ago?
THAT was a suckerpunch, trust me. This was a love tap.
He kayoed Lappy with a punch he never saw..
Ward per usual was running his mouth, and deserved more than he got.
Act tough, better be tough when it comes down to it.

[nyisles15]

Originally Posted by Smashing Machine

I think it's okay when it's two turds in the same bowl.

The Caps are dirty, and the Rags are dirty. Brashear cheap shots / picks spots etc etc. Orr deserves any whipping he gets. Ward deserves any suckerpunch he gets. And I wouldn't cry if someone hacked Brashear again. Jagr deserves to get roughed up and so does Ovy.

I was happy there were incidents in this game.

So..I look at who it is happening to, and Ward deserves it, Brashears only fault was that he did not lose it, and really hurt the guy.

Ever see Brashear sucker puch Lappy many years ago?
THAT was a suckerpunch, trust me. This was a love tap.
He kayoed Lappy with a punch he never saw..
Ward per usual was running his mouth, and deserved more than he got.
Act tough, better be tough when it comes down to it.

I def thought he could have really gave it to Ward and I agree with you but with all the dirty stuff going on in the game why not just take ward or lunge at him and smack him around. Don't do it in the way that was done.

[bristolboy]

Originally Posted by Smashing Machine

he barely tapped Ward, and Ward goes down like he was shot.

I WISH he would have really nailed that homo.

That's total BS. You've obviously never had a fight with somebody who out weighs you by 70 or 80lbs. I mean, this is why they have weight classes you know!!!

Believe me, Ward's head rocks back, he was hit with a short cleanly landed punch, right on the jaw. If he had embelished it he would have layed out flat once he had hit the ice.

Don't get me wrong, Ward isn't my favorite player, watch the slow-mo he deffinately didn't make a meal out of that punch!!!

[ewen21]

Originally Posted by Smashing Machine

So..I look at who it is happening to, and Ward deserves it, Brashears only fault was that he did not lose it, and really hurt the guy.

You're like me in that respect..... I am p1ssed that he had the civility to back off. HOwever, we may be somewhat apart because.....
Thing is, I don't care if Ward deserved it or not.......I don't need a reason, a rationale or any justification anymore for anything that happens. I think it's just neat to watch.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Demoman993

...but he'd always fight the tough guys and they had to be in the same class as him, not Brashear vs Buchberger.

Probert fought Buchberger as well...Buchy basically ended up doing a standing turtle and Probie still hammered away, what a disgrace! Also, don't disrespect Buchberger by acting like he was a *****, the guy fought everyone, win or lose.

Anyways, I'll repeat what I said in the other thread.

Brashear is a bully (especially recently, which is good for fans like us). He will push around people who he doesn't like, and intimidate the other team's star players. There doesnt need to be a reason for this, if he wants to intimidate other players, he does. It's up to the other team to counter Brashear, or any player who throws their weight around. That's why teams have enforcers, to keep other players in check. That's why you see players like McGrattan, Boogaard, Orr, Parros, etc in the line-ups right now, to hopfully prevent/counter someone running wild on soft players. If you didn't have a need to keep other players in check, you wouldn't have the need for an enforcer. Thank mean people like Brashear for these new guys getting a shot to protect their teamates.

If every team had a player with Brashear's mindset the games would be so much better.