Donald Brashear

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

This thread makes me chuckle. To all the haters who refuse to give him props for whatever shallow reasons, but mostly because he beat 'your guy' and was a big 'meany head' (and people like RE who are just trolling for reactions) the following is the end all be all to Donald Brashear threads, his entire fight card as well as win/loss ratio broken down unbiasedly and completely legit by people way more credible then you could ever hope to be...

Donald Brashear - The Career

You can't argue results, just whine about them. One of the most dominating fighters the league has ever seen, top 5 all time and soaring higher, Donald "The Don-Mega" Brashear.

I think that how he overcame a youth filed with psychological and physical abuse at the hands of his parents and the foster care system, to become a NHL star (so to speak) is admirable to say the least.

[flex_buff_chest]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

This thread makes me chuckle. To all the haters who refuse to give him props for whatever shallow reasons, but mostly because he beat 'your guy' and was a big 'meany head' (and people like RE who are just trolling for reactions) the following is the end all be all to Donald Brashear threads, his entire fight card as well as win/loss ratio broken down unbiasedly and completely legit by people way more credible then you could ever hope to be...

Donald Brashear - The Career

You can't argue results, just whine about them. One of the most dominating fighters the league has ever seen, top 5 all time and soaring higher, Donald "The Don-Mega" Brashear.

I hate to agree with you. However, people need to give Brash his due.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by RayzorEdge

Grammar freak!

Explain then how I'm so inaccurate. He was a fucking show off who couldn't deliver a great bout unless it was against someone half his size or he was getting his ass kicked. Yeah he slowed down, getting KOd by Belak and beatdown by Thornton, but his fights were snoozefests right from the beginning, and occasionally a bit cheap.

Bad ass? More like dumb ass. He treated his fights like a wrestling match, including the showboating at the end. Oh and I'll give you one more thing he did well. Throw noggies to the back of the head, but those don't count.

Brashear was all style, and little if any substance.

I respect your opinion but I disagree with everything.

All your talk about his fights being snoozefests and a "cure for insomnia" are all generalizations and your personal exaggerations for a fighter you don't think was that great.

Ok, so Brashear didn't KO, TKO, or even KD his opponent in all of his fights. He even lost a few. But he punched hard, fought every fighter in two eras, and was the epitome of an enforcer. He got lazy with his role in the last few years of his career; most enforcers do. It was annoying, but it is what it is. That doesn't change the fact that he could deliver a beatdown to anyone on any night if he played it right. Saying he was all noogies and hugs is so far from the truth and really invalidates your opinion. Sorry man, that's just what I think. But there's no way you can truly believe what you're saying!

[smashem]

Favorite Brashear moment him getting crushed with MCSorley's stick and KO'd

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by smashem

Favorite Brashear moment him getting crushed with MCSorley's stick and KO'd

http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_...?v=GtztN_0MyX0

my favorite Brashear moment, since we're reminiscing and what not.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

This thread makes me chuckle. To all the haters who refuse to give him props for whatever shallow reasons, but mostly because he beat 'your guy' and was a big 'meany head' (and people like RE who are just trolling for reactions) the following is the end all be all to Donald Brashear threads, his entire fight card as well as win/loss ratio broken down unbiasedly and completely legit by people way more credible then you could ever hope to be...

Donald Brashear - The Career

You can't argue results, just whine about them. One of the most dominating fighters the league has ever seen, top 5 all time and soaring higher, Donald "The Don-Mega" Brashear.

First of all, Huggy didn't beat any of my favorite fighters, and I actually applaud his "goonery" and showboating that doesn't bother me in the least bit.

However the thread you just posted has some favorable decisions for Brash. I mean he was credit with a win in a fight against Domi where he bailed then turtled....not to mention many other fights that we closer to being draws than a win or edge for Donny.

You can argue "results" because in many of those "wins" it was due to sheer activity where he (as he often does) flail his arm smacking the back of his opponents helmet or rabbit punches while hugging with his free hand. Once again my issue isn't with his goonery, it's his style that I find grossly overrated.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

However the thread you just posted has some favorable decisions for Brash. I mean he was credit with a win in a fight against Domi where he bailed then turtled....not to mention many other fights that we closer to being draws than a win or edge for Donny.

Jayc's credibility is much higher than yours, sorry.

Also, I've seen your list of Bruins losses you want to say were wins or draws for Bruins, so to see you try and downgrade Brashear's wins as draws is slightly homeristic. You get hit for that too.

I'll clarify, you can TRY to argue results, but they are what they are. It's very definitive in this case. Carry on.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by smashem

Favorite Brashear moment him getting crushed with MCSorley's stick and KO'd

^ Pretending you were sober enough to remember. Classic!

After he tuned McSorley up 6 times, one of which was so bad that McSorley got dropped. It was the last resort of one of Brashear's biggest punching bags.

All drunken homering aside, I think it would be extremely interesting to see what Brashear would have done to McSorley if he ever played against him again. With Brashear's track record of goonery, I think it's safe to say it would not have been pretty.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

Jayc's credibility is much higher than yours, sorry.

Also, I've seen your list of Bruins losses you want to say were wins or draws for Bruins, so to see you try and downgrade Brashear's wins as draws is slightly homeristic. You get hit for that too.

I'll clarify, you can TRY to argue results, but they are what they are. It's very definitive in this case. Carry on.

Well you can feel anyway you want on Jayc's credibility in comparison to mine-that's your prerogative.

I will say this, I know both you and Jayc are Flyer fans so you'll have to excuse me if view your perspectives the same way you view mine. Also, these "results" are subjective they aren't set in stone...especially Brashear, who's fights tend to lean slightly one way or the other.

You can be lockstep with Jayc and hold him in high regard, but that doesn't quantify into being definitive decisions.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

Well you can feel anyway you want on Jayc's credibility in comparison to mine-that's your prerogative.

Ditto.

I noticed you question mainly Brashear's victories against Bruins. I don't KNOW if you are like the other Bruins fans here, so I'm not writing you off completely...but yeah.

Anyways, my work here is done. Results are results.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

Ditto.

I noticed you question mainly Brashear's victories against Bruins. I don't KNOW if you are like the other Bruins fans here, so I'm not writing you off completely...but yeah.

Anyways, my work here is done. Results are results.

It's mainly against Bruins, because I watch every Bruins game and I vividly remember those fights off hand. They also happen to be close fights that conveniently went to Brashear...(almost as if to help prove a point). Just saying those were fights that could have been called either way yet went to Brashear.

I was fine with what you were saying until you had to sprinkle in "results are results" as a final poke. They are subjective "results" that just happen to fit your agenda....I'll say it again, you cannot simply quantify one person's opinion and pass it off as a fact. You may happen to agree with it, but it's not a simple as you're making it out to be.

[Broons66]

Watched the McSorley/ Brash incident live at a strip club in Salisbury, MA. Still remember saying "wtf" when Marty did that, out of frustration. What I hated after, was the incident being turned into a racial thing, and talks of lawsuits. Loved Marty Mac, what he accomplished in bis career, but that whole ordeal was ugly.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by Broons66

Watched the McSorley/ Brash incident live at a strip club in Salisbury, MA. Still remember saying "wtf" when Marty did that, out of frustration. What I hated after, was the incident being turned into a racial thing, and talks of lawsuits. Loved Marty Mac, what he accomplished in bis career, but that whole ordeal was ugly.

This annoyed me as well, I just couldn't buy into Brashear being a sympathetic figure. As harsh as it is too say I just looked at it as what goes around comes around. Plus it saved it from just another ordinary finish with Vancouver bleeding the clock for the win...Marty gave us entertainment!

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

Plus it saved it from just another ordinary finish with Vancouver bleeding the clock for the win...Marty gave us entertainment!

Now you're just fishing for a reaction. No one is this stupid.

[RayzorEdge]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

I respect your opinion but I disagree with everything.

All your talk about his fights being snoozefests and a "cure for insomnia" are all generalizations and your personal exaggerations for a fighter you don't think was that great.

Ok, so Brashear didn't KO, TKO, or even KD his opponent in all of his fights. He even lost a few. But he punched hard, fought every fighter in two eras, and was the epitome of an enforcer. He got lazy with his role in the last few years of his career; most enforcers do. It was annoying, but it is what it is. That doesn't change the fact that he could deliver a beatdown to anyone on any night if he played it right. Saying he was all noogies and hugs is so far from the truth and really invalidates your opinion. Sorry man, that's just what I think. But there's no way you can truly believe what you're saying!

I mean if you want be a blind homer and keep drinking the Brash kool aid with cookie monster, go right ahead. The videos don't lie, his hugfests have been recorded for the world to see. There's good reason why he's nicknamed huggy bear, and I'm not the first person to say that. It's got nothing to do with KOs or TKOs either. I think mikebflorida put it best in this latest round of arguments over Brashear. He didn't fight to win, he fought not to lose. That for me is enough to knock him out of the top 5, and maybe even top 10.