Donald Brashear

[suckerpunch]

Originally Posted by BGDDYKWL

If McGrattan wants to fight so bad he needs to start playing more like Neil. Neil is always out there running guys and stirring the pot. McGrattan does nothing but ask Brash to go. If he wanted to fight Brash so bad last night all he would've had to do was run Semin, simple as that. It's not Brash's job to fight for no reason. McG needs to do something to make Brash drop the gloves. I won't get into the fear aspect of this debate as it's been done to death, but bottom line is Brash clearly does not want to fight McGrattan. That is very evident.

The only problem with your theory is McGrattan would have to actually skate fast enough to run Semin!

[D Y B FLYERS]

Brash picks his spots these days and everyone knows it. Unless Brashear is pissed off about something, he isn't going to fight unless he wants to. He isn't scared of anyone, that is the lamest part of the argument. He has fought everyone, he just picks his spots these days.

[brad houghton]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Brash picks his spots these days and everyone knows it. Unless Brashear is pissed off about something, he isn't going to fight unless he wants to. He isn't scared of anyone, that is the lamest part of the argument. He has fought everyone, he just picks his spots these days.

yea i think you nailed it here.

he doesn't want to get into a Godard McGrattan or Peters McGrattan type four fight series in one season. Doesn't mean he won't go with him again at some point but Brash will do it on his time table and on his terms or pick his spot as you say.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by brad houghton

yea i think you nailed it here.

he doesn't want to get into a Godard McGrattan or Peters McGrattan type four fight series in one season. Doesn't mean he won't go with him again at some point but Brash will do it on his time table and on his terms or pick his spot as you say.

Brad I expect more from a good northern boy like yourself. You sound like Brashear's publicist.

He doesnt want to get into a series of fights with one guy. Well he has fought McGrattan a grand total of one time. The rest of the games he has yellowed out of fighting him. I think the beating he recieved is still fresh in his grill. Remember Brashear doesnt lose much esp. that badly.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by BGDDYKWL

If McGrattan wants to fight so bad he needs to start playing more like Neil. Neil is always out there running guys and stirring the pot. McGrattan does nothing but ask Brash to go. If he wanted to fight Brash so bad last night all he would've had to do was run Semin, simple as that. It's not Brash's job to fight for no reason. McG needs to do something to make Brash drop the gloves. I won't get into the fear aspect of this debate as it's been done to death, but bottom line is Brash clearly does not want to fight McGrattan. That is very evident.

I would agree with that it would seem a better approach. But remember McGrattan doesnt really have the skill to make that happen. He is a terrible hockey player and really I cant believe he is still in the league. He needs training wheels to turn a corner and he rarely gets a beed on a guy to hit him.

Brashear just needs to man up and fight him.

[brad houghton]

Originally Posted by canuck2

Brad I expect more from a good northern boy like yourself. You sound like Brashear's publicist.

He doesnt want to get into a series of fights with one guy. Well he has fought McGrattan a grand total of one time. The rest of the games he has yellowed out of fighting him. I think the beating he recieved is still fresh in his grill. Remember Brashear doesnt lose much esp. that badly.

i fear i would be fired as his publicist faster than Terrell Owens publicist got the ax for her twenty million reasons quote

i thought DYB Flyers was balanced in that he admitted Brash is a spot picker but thinks he's not afraid. I would assume he's more cautious than scared i can see him waiting for the time to be right and fighting McG again.....however it would have to be on his terms.

i will restate my earlier point....Brash has fought allot this year and to that i tip my hat but that was brutal last night he totally bailed when challanged. if i was a Brash fan it would piss me off cause this kid beat him very solidly the first time and i would want him to avenge the loss not spot pick.

[TheBoogeyman]

Originally Posted by brad houghton

i fear i would be fired as his publicist faster than Terrell Owens publicist got the ax for her twenty million reasons quote

i thought DYB Flyers was balanced in that he admitted Brash is a spot picker but thinks he's not afraid. I would assume he's more cautious than scared i can see him waiting for the time to be right and fighting McG again.....however it would have to be on his terms.

i will restate my earlier point....Brash has fought allot this year and to that i tip my hat but that was brutal last night he totally bailed when challanged. if i was a Brash fan it would piss me off cause this kid beat him very solidly the first time and i would want him to avenge the loss not spot pick.

Thats why I could never be a Brash fan, hes to flaky. You would think Brash would want to avenge his devistating loss to McGrattan last year...most fighters do.

I definentally dont think Brash is afraid of anyone, he just does what he wants and not what everyone else wants. But props to him for being a force this year.

[armani]

Originally Posted by Odjick29

Well, we all know Brash has decided to pick his spots, he isn't scared at all, he just chooses to fight who and when on his terms, it's why 75% of the people hate the guy because he had all the tools to be the next Probie...In his prime in Vancouver he would fight anyone and everyone and it was great, something changed in him and it's now frustrating to watch

Except Laraque. Brashear fought and won against Laraque, but when the young Laraque started to dominate other heavyweights, Brashear decided not to fight him again.

And now, McGrattan.

[armani]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Brash picks his spots these days and everyone knows it. Unless Brashear is pissed off about something, he isn't going to fight unless he wants to. He isn't scared of anyone, that is the lamest part of the argument. He has fought everyone, he just picks his spots these days.

Why does he spot pick? What did he have to lose when his team was already down 4-1?

So if the team has nothing to lose, than maybe he did. Maybe he did not fight knowing he will probably get beat up again by McGrattan? If that's the case, then he doesn't fight knowing the end result. That's fear (of losing).

It's not like he beat up McGrattan and had nothing else to prove by giving the kid another chance. Or that his team was winning, so fighting at that point could be detrimental to his team.

This is the umphteenth time that he pussied out on McGrattan. It's not the first time and certainly won't be the last. Simply put, he is afraid of McG. No other explanation makes sense at this point, after all the opportunities he was given by McG to avenge the loss. He was on a tear until he met McG again. Than he put his tail between his legs yet again.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by armani

Why does he spot pick? What did he have to lose when his team was already down 4-1?

So if the team has nothing to lose, than maybe he did. Maybe he did not fight knowing he will probably get beat up again by McGrattan? If that's the case, then he doesn't fight knowing the end result. That's fear (of losing).

It's not like he beat up McGrattan and had nothing else to prove by giving the kid another chance. Or that his team was winning, so fighting at that point could be detrimental to his team.

This is the umphteenth time that he pussied out on McGrattan. It's not the first time and certainly won't be the last. Simply put, he is afraid of McG. No other explanation makes sense at this point, after all the opportunities he was given by McG to avenge the loss. He was on a tear until he met McG again. Than he put his tail between his legs yet again.

Well said. Its not a popular notion with a lot of guys on here. They simply dont believe big tough guys like Brashear can actually feel fear. It would really deflate the super hero status they impart on him.

The proof is when these guys meet. Brashear wont fight him. It tells you everything you want to know about the guy no matter how we all spin it.

[Boston Garden]

Years later it's interesting to read this thread, I agree Brash could have potentially been the best if he opened up and didn't hug or bail on fights. I can't question his power but I question his heart.

[Broons66]

Brash was hit/miss for me. Loved the way he enforced, not his fighting style. Two things strangely stand out when I think of Brash: the McSorley incident, and Pat Burns making him cry during a practice that was caught on tape. Other than that, I really cant think of too many outstanding Donald moments.

[cookie monster]

The reason Brashear was so good at his job is because he legit didn't give a sh#t about the code or the rules. Compare him to the other "top guy" of his generation, LARaque, the difference is Crystal clear. You think Brashear would wish someone good luck before a fight? Doubt it. You think Brashear would have let Lucic off the hook so easy, coaches orders or not? Brashear would have just dropped Lucic.

As far as pure intimidation, ability, willingness, aggressiveness, reputation and longevity....Brashear is the ultimate tough guy.

[Broons66]

Sorry cookie, name one entertaining Brash fight? I really can't think of one off the top of my head. Donald:zzzzz And bringing Looch into this guy? Wow man, that's fked up!

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by Broons66

Sorry cookie, name one entertaining Brash fight? I really can't think of one off the top of my head. Donald:zzzzz And bringing Looch into this guy? Wow man, that's fked up!

All of them...

Wow you Bruins fans are so sensitive. I was just using the Lucic not manning up against LARaque incident as an example on the difference between the two and how Brashear never would have let him off so easy.

Don't worry, Chara saved face by wrestling Brashear down TWICE in the same game.