Cheapest Current Player

[Broons66]

I really dont mind players that "cross the line" like Sestito. But to lump him into a catorgory with Lucic is laughable! When Sestito bangs in 30,drops the mitts with the likes of Carkner,Orr,etc,i'll be impressed. Id rather see teams carry a Sestito,than some soft as sh*t Euro,even though Sestito's game has serious limitations. And yes,big Marchand fan here;scores 25-30 goals,dirty as fvck,but i dont care. Hopefully Looch offers Sestito a rematch this season,after the questainable Horton hit,theres some unfinished business to take care of.

[Philly Fan 27]

what does scoring goals have to do w/ being cheap or not?

[MattBurger]

Don't get me wrong, Sestito is a dumb hockey player, but he's entertaining as hell and the league needs more of players like him. Makes the games interesting.

[bruiser11]

Originally Posted by Tucker_316

That wasn't taking a run, it was just a nice, hard hit. Which was immediately followed by "tough guy" Ference jumping PK before he even knew what was coming at him.

Even though the hit was fine, P.K. would be naive to think noone would be coming after him. He just didn't want to fight.

[bruiser11]

As for dirtiest? Lapierre, Marchand, Burrows and Kaleta come to mind right away.

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan 27

what does scoring goals have to do w/ being cheap or not?

It has quite alot to do with staying in the league in 2012 i think. You think Boston would put up with Marchands style of play if he couldnt play? Montreal with Subban? Burrows with Van? This isnt the 80's where a team would carry a "disturber" like Linesman,Markwhart,MacDermid,etc. Alot of teams would rather fill thier 4th lines with supposedly talented Euros.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Broons66

It has quite alot to do with staying in the league in 2012 i think. You think Boston would put up with Marchands style of play if he couldnt play? Montreal with Subban? Burrows with Van? This isnt the 80's where a team would carry a "disturber" like Linesman,Markwhart,MacDermid,etc. Alot of teams would rather fill thier 4th lines with supposedly talented Euros.

Kind of missing the point I think.

He's saying that just because someone is 'good' doesn't mean they can't be cheap, which is what it seemed like your post was implying.

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

Kind of missing the point I think.

He's saying that just because someone is 'good' doesn't mean they can't be cheap, which is what it seemed like your post was implying.

I might have misinterpreted his reply. My reply i thought was fairly straight forward. In todays league,there really isnt room or a spot for a one dimensional player. It is what it is. I preferred the 80's - 90's game much better.

[TheMah6712]

Originally Posted by FightingIsGood

Other than those 2 hits, James Neal really isn't known as a dirty player. Malkin and Cooke definitely are, though.

He is now. He was suspended back in 2010 for a cheap shot like he was this past postseason. He typically doesn't play dirty, but when things don't go his way he goes into 'big-baby' mode and loses control. He runs around looking for cheap hit. I hope someone clothes-lines this guy.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Broons66

I might have misinterpreted his reply. My reply i thought was fairly straight forward. In todays league,there really isnt room or a spot for a one dimensional player. It is what it is. I preferred the 80's - 90's game much better.

I get that, but that doesn't really have anything to do with what was being talked about.

Lucic and Sestito are both in the same class of 'cheap'. I don't understand how that relates to anything else you are saying.

[Broons66]

Rc

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

I get that, but that doesn't really have anything to do with what was being talked about.

Lucic and Sestito are both in the same class of 'cheap'. I don't understand how that relates to anything else you are saying.

RC,how are Looch and Sestito in anyway in terms of cheapness as you say? Seriously,enlighten me.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Broons66

Rc

RC,how are Looch and Sestito in anyway in terms of cheapness as you say? Seriously,enlighten me.

You are still equating things in this thread in terms of playing skills. Being a good hockey player has NOTHING to do with being cheap. If you can't separate the two from each other than there is no point in having this discussion.

Explain how they are not similar when it comes to being 'cheap' without talking about goals, assists, points, or playing time and you might surprise yourself.

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

You are still equating things in this thread in terms of playing skills. Being a good hockey player has NOTHING to do with being cheap. If you can't separate the two from each other than there is no point in having this discussion.

Explain how they are not similar when it comes to being 'cheap' without talking about goals, assists, points, or playing time and you might surprise yourself.

Simple! One guy's going to be around in 10 years,another will be most likely nothing but a memory. That really wasnt to hard to explain given the climate in todays league. I truly wish Sestito well,i wanna see him stick around,but...

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Broons66

Simple! One guy's going to be around in 10 years,another will be most likely nothing but a memory. That really wasnt to hard to explain given the climate in todays league. I truly wish Sestito well,i wanna see him stick around,but...

That still has nothing to do with how 'cheap' they are, which is what the thread is about and the basis of the whole comparison.

You're trying to add factors to the equation that have no business being there. It's like when people try to give players more points for being smaller or being a good hockey player when ranking a general All-Time Fighter list. If you want to do that, then start a 'Who is the cheapest player that also doesn't score a lot of points' thread. So again, if you can't separate the non-factors from the argument then there is no point is having the discussion.

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

That still has nothing to do with how 'cheap' they are, which is what the thread is about and the basis of the whole comparison.

You're trying to add factors to the equation that have no business being there. It's like when people try to give players more points for being smaller or being a good hockey player when ranking a general All-Time Fighter list. If you want to do that, then start a 'Who is the cheapest player that also doesn't score a lot of points' thread. So again, if you can't separate the non-factors from the argument then there is no point is having the discussion.

Alright RC,i'll tap out. IMO,these factors have to be taken into the equation,seeing the Leagues changing right in front of our eyes,but whatever... I tap bud!