2012-13 Toughest Team Predictions?

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

No kidding? I'm not the one saying they are "too important" to fight (esp. Scott), that's your fellow fans, Patt.

Well they really shouldn't be fighting constantly when you consider their role on the team. I was just highlighting the pathetic nature of the Sabres last year.



[quote=As long as Scott plays against the Bruins that's all that matters in this conversation. McQuaid(didn't want to fight last year, can't /wont fight anything over MW). Campbell (worse punching bag than Ott or Kaleta). Ference? Boychick ? That's really reaching.

Foligno will bounce back and forth? Wanna bet?[/QUOTE]

Once again the McQuaid "that didn't want to fight" would place 2nd on the Sabres for FM's...not to bad for a secondary fighter. Campbell isn't a very good fighter but he's also not a turtling coward like Ott and Kaleta. Sorry, but I can't fully take Ott and visor tough guy Kaleta seriously in terms of toughness when they act like p*ssies more time than not. Like you said Ference and Boychuk are nothing more than capable depth fighters that equate similar to Pardy (if he plays) and Robin.

You may be right about Foligno staying up, but I'll throw Nathan Horton's name into the ring at that point.

Edit: If you're willing to include Tarnasky, I'll add Exelby for Boston.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by Sapunka16

That's pretty sad.

Also, to address Flyers dressing Shelley/Sestito:

As the lineup stands now, the final two forward spots will be occupied by two of; Zac Rinaldo, Eric Wellwood, Tom Sestito, Jody Shelley.

Wellwood was translucent in the playoffs, there is a good chance Sestito could play over him regularly.

With an injury, we could see both big guys in. With two injuries it's a very realistic possibility.

That seems to be a glass half full view.

I recall Lavy being more of a pansy behind the bench, and he seems to one that would get fed up with Sestito and Rinaldo taking bad penalties....and Shelley being essentially useless. I mean he would dress Nodl when he opportunity presented itself.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

Well they really shouldn't be fighting constantly when you consider their role on the team. I was just highlighting the pathetic nature of the Sabres last year.

Why would you "highlight" the pathetic nature of last season? That's been beaten to death. This thread is about the upcoming season.

Once again the McQuaid "that didn't want to fight" would place 2nd on the Sabres for FM's...not to bad for a secondary fighter. Campbell isn't a very good fighter but he's also not a turtling coward like Ott and Kaleta. Sorry, but I can't fully take Ott and visor tough guy Kaleta seriously in terms of toughness when they act like p*ssies more time than not. Like you said Ference and Boychuk are nothing more than capable depth fighters that equate similar to Pardy (if he plays) and Robin.

You may be right about Foligno staying up, but I'll throw Nathan Horton's name into the ring at that point.

Edit: If you're willing to include Tarnasky, I'll add Exelby for Boston.

Fair enough if you don't take Ott and Kaleta "seriously", after all I don't take Ference and "visor tough guy" Boychick seriously either.

Horton is 1 shot away from a drool cup.

All this is conjecture. We will see how it plays out on the ice.

[cookie monster]

Its pretty obvious what's going on in buffalo. ryan miller who is the best player on the team. he is kept what has been a mostly mediocre buffalo sabres teams in playoffs contention for years. he normally was not happy with what happened to him when he was run over by lucic, he was pretty upset with his own team from lack of response. maybe even mad at the entire organization for not providing someone on the team to protect him from something like that.

Gustad tried to do something but got beat up so there is really no deterrent for keeping the bruins fan bullying the sabres again. it seems like the sabres picked up john scott rather quickly in free agency. that tells me a plan on using him not to sit on the bench but to actually play.

the bruins have a roster to match toughness no doubt, but the likelihood of having to answer to john scott is a bit scarier than having to answer to paul gaustad, no offense to paul gaustad.

I will bet my bottom dollar that the first time the bruins in the sabres play that john scott will be looking for milan lucic.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Horton is 1 shot away from a drool cup.

That's true. After Rinaldo beat him down and Sestito put him on the IR I don't expect much in the way of fighting out of Horton. I hope he proves me wrong though.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Why would you "highlight" the pathetic nature of last season? That's been beaten to death. This thread is about the upcoming season.

Well because that's the only real measuring stick we have at this point? You keep referencing how McQuaid doesn't want to fight anymore....I mean that was based off of last season was it not? I guess it only has merit when you're trying to make a point.


[quote=Fair enough if you don't take Ott and Kaleta "seriously", after all I don't take Ference and "visor tough guy" Boychick seriously either.

Horton is 1 shot away from a drool cup.

All this is conjecture. We will see how it plays out on the ice.[/QUOTE]

Boychuk is not comparable to Ott and Kaleta. While I don't think he is some great fighter, he's alright and he can lay out some big hits without all the bull**** that Ott and Kaleta bring to the table. Kaleta and Ott flop around, turtle and turn down fight constantly. Kaleta uses his visor as a shield so he can play like a punk, and hell he used it to headbutt somebody.....I don't see Boychuk doing that.

Horton is vulnerable, however he is far more established as a fighter than Foligno.

But like you said this is all conjecture.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

That's true. After Rinaldo beat him down and Sestito put him on the IR I don't expect much in the way of fighting out of Horton. I hope he proves me wrong though.

Sestito is in the same boat though, we haven't seen him fight since he was beaten down and then face plant off the ice.

[Broons66]

Theres no doubt Buff signed Scott because of Lucic trucking Miller last season. That one play seemed to define the Sabes season. As far as big John being any deterrant to Lucic,i really doubt it. He's most likely gonna see between 3-6 minutes of ice time when he dresses;which im sure he will against the B's. As far as Horton,he's supposedly fine,according to Chiarelli,ready to go. He's not the only Bruin with past concussions;McQuaid and Bergeron have also had a few. As far as Sestito? Pffft! Poor mans Mike Peluso.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by Broons66

Theres no doubt Buff signed Scott because of Lucic trucking Miller last season. That one play seemed to define the Sabes season. As far as big John being any deterrant to Lucic,i really doubt it. He's most likely gonna see between 3-6 minutes of ice time when he dresses;which im sure he will against the B's. As far as Horton,he's supposedly fine,according to Chiarelli,ready to go. He's not the only Bruin with past concussions;McQuaid and Bergeron have also had a few. As far as Sestito? Pffft! Poor mans [player=524]Mike Peluso

What does his ice time matter? I don't care if it's 30 seconds as long as he is doing what he was signed for. I guess we will see of he's a deterrent. Something tells me Lucic won't be running Miller this year. Can't wait for the seaon to begin.

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

What does his ice time matter? I don't care if it's 30 seconds as long as he is doing what he was signed for. I guess we will see of he's a deterrent. Something tells me Lucic won't be running Miller this year. Can't wait for the seaon to begin.

True Jack,Looch probably wont run Miller,that was last year. But if you think Scott is some knd of deterrant in stopping #17 from doing what he wants on the ice,you're fooling yourself. Regehr or Weber or Myers will have to deal with Looch. You're right,two months until the season starts,Buffalo,Boston,and Philly fans are already talking sh*t! Those Boston/Buffalo game threads will be awesome! Cant wait!

[GOON 21]

Originally Posted by cookie monster

Its pretty obvious what's going on in buffalo. ryan miller who is the best player on the team. he is kept what has been a mostly mediocre buffalo sabres teams in playoffs contention for years. he normally was not happy with what happened to him when he was run over by lucic, he was pretty upset with his own team from lack of response. maybe even mad at the entire organization for not providing someone on the team to protect him from something like that.

Gustad tried to do something but got beat up so there is really no deterrent for keeping the bruins fan bullying the sabres again. it seems like the sabres picked up john scott rather quickly in free agency. that tells me a plan on using him not to sit on the bench but to actually play.

the bruins have a roster to match toughness no doubt, but the likelihood of having to answer to john scott is a bit scarier than having to answer to paul gaustad, no offense to paul gaustad.

I will bet my bottom dollar that the first time the bruins in the sabres play that john scott will be looking for milan lucic.

Good post


I think Scott will play 50 games or so, maybe 6 minutes a night? Is that possible?


The gaybres needed some toughness and im hoping Scott provides some of much needed muscle and i hope he goes after Looch at some pt this season (the earlier the better) but its overdue for that team


Maybe just maybe we will get some action and much needed fireworks, i think we can all agree that its long overdue and needed

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by GOON 21

The gaybres needed some toughness and im hoping Scott provides some of much needed muscle and i hope he goes after Looch at some pt this season (the earlier the better) but its overdue for that team

Did an Isles fan really just say that??!! Pretty sure we are in the same boat!

[GOON 21]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Did an Isles fan really just say that??!! Pretty sure we are in the same boat!

Yea last year we were soft (no argument from me) but the past 4-5 years i think we have had a leg up on you guys in the fighting dept and fighting majors


Im just glad to see some teams toughen up, its good for rivalries and good for us fans

[CBarnes]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

What does his ice time matter? I don't care if it's 30 seconds as long as he is doing what he was signed for. I guess we will see of he's a deterrent. Something tells me Lucic won't be running Miller this year. Can't wait for the seaon to begin.

We all know that Lucic is the league's biggest spot picker, even if John Scott impregnated his(lucic) sister that he would blow it off. and find a reason to dodge another heavyweight.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by CBarnes

We all know that Lucic is the league's biggest spot picker, even if John Scott impregnated his(lucic) sister that he would blow it off. and find a reason to dodge another heavyweight.

Good effort on trying to stir up this thread (again). Please elaborate on this dead horse argument...were all on pins and needles.....do share.