'13: Colton Orr's Revenge

[Nightmare]

That is quite the daunting checklist laid out for twenty-thirteen Colton. As much as i'd love to see it, doubtful all those fights happen. We all know who he is and what he's capable of any given night just like all the men laid out on that potential fight card. To me Colton has nothing to prove. He could drop Scott, Scott can drop him...and how long do he and Carkner have to trade KOs for whatever these conclusions are to be drawn? For me the most important task is a dance night with Engelland. I want to see if Colton can solve him. First and foremost, I wish Colton a SAFE, HEALTHY and rewarding 2013 for his off season of hard work and dedication.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

I keep seeing people post stuff like this.... who said that?

Funny you should ask, Jack:

Last year, there were at least two ongoing "John Scott" threads in which the apparent intent of the poster(s) of the threads, was to make a case for Scott being the undisputed NHL heavyweight. As I recall, the main thrust of their arguments was that "Scott is the only undefeated fighter, therefore he MUST be the best". Within these threads, I had several entertaining post exchanges with Scott homers who were certain that the next Derek Boogaard had finally arrived.

Here are two of my favorites. Judge for yourself whether or not this is a case of so-called "revisionism" (lol). Be sure to bring along a barf bag.

"john scott"

"very best"

Originally Posted by name withheld

Including the top 3 and all the other greats both past and present I can't find a fighter in the NHL or who was in the NHl who can beat John Scott. I watched numerous fights he had and I can't find a single loss. At 6 ft 8 I can't find anyone who could of beaten him. He hits hard and has strength. I saw Him beat George Parros easily which is not an easy task and I couldn't find anyone who looks like they could even get in close enough to him the big guy. He made players such as Probert look the size of gary Howatt and even big Mitch Fritz couldn't land one on Scotts chin. Looking for a fighter who could put up even a close fight with him. Not looking for someone to beat him but throw some names of fighters who could of at least made him know he was in a fight (imho)

Originally Posted by name withheld

Is there anyone in the NHL who can beat John Scott? I've seen a lot of fights involving Scott but I never saw him lose. I went over all the rosters and looked at their fighters and I can't see anyone who can go t2t with him. In fact I can't find anyone who even came close to beating him. Right now I rate him #1 in the NHL when it comes to dropping the gloves.

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

This site doesn't have enough bandwidth to support a post that might include all of the all-time fighting greats who would dismantle Scott in a scrap.

Scott's lucky when he narrowly escapes the wrath of Cam Janssen.

Here's a post that discusses Orr's inevitable demise, should he ever be foolish enough to mix it up with Scott:

Originally Posted by name withheld

. . .Colton Orr who was the top HW was ko'd a few times and I don't think he would be able to land anything on Scott as Orr's chin was not one that could withstand a fighter like Scott, Shelly and Carkner took care of orr. Lucic couldn't stand in with Scott as he ruined his rep when he showed fear fighting Orr and asked the linesmen to stop it. Half the NHL teams don't even have a fighter ala NY Islanders. The rangers are going with Prust and to fight Scott would be a mismatch. Until Scott gets cut,knocked down,etc this undefeated HW to me is the undisputed HW champ. It's not his fault that no one wants to step up and take him on.

Originally Posted by Phila26fFyers

I'm curious about this myself. I don't recall anyone saying John Scott was the HW champion of the NHL. Revisionist history at work.

"Until Scott gets cut,knocked down,etc this undefeated HW to me is the undisputed HW champ.

Does that help to refresh your "revisionist-history"-imagining recollection, Phila26?

[cashman rules]

Love him or hate Orr its better for all of us that he is back and low and behold he drops Scott right off the bat.....ya the guy who hasn't went with a top 10 fighter since he has been in the NHL!My only problem with Orr now if he gets clocked one more time thats gonna be it for him and it might just happen in the next 3 weeks.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Funny you should ask, Jack:

Last year, there were at least two ongoing "John Scott" threads in which the apparent intent of the poster(s) of the threads, was to make a case for Scott being the undisputed NHL heavyweight. As I recall, the main thrust of their arguments was that "Scott is the only undefeated fighter, therefore he MUST be the best". Within these threads, I had several entertaining post exchanges with Scott homers who were certain that the next Derek Boogaard had finally arrived.

Here are two of my favorites. Judge for yourself whether or not this is a case of so-called "revisionism" (lol). Be sure to bring along a barf bag.

"john scott"

"very best"







Here's a post that discusses Orr's inevitable demise, should he ever be foolish enough to mix it up with Scott:





"Until Scott gets cut,knocked down,etc this undefeated HW to me is the undisputed HW champ.

Does that help to refresh your "revisionist-history"-imagining recollection, Phila26?

By last year, you mean when he was on the Rangers or Hawks? I recall a few Hawks posters singing that tune a couple of seasons ago, but the sentiment was hardly expressed by the majority of posters here. The overwhelming majority see/saw him for what he is: an unproven giant. It just seems pretty disingenuous to bring this up now because it certainly gives the impression that there are Sabres fans that anointed him the "champ" when that's not the case. Try and stay current or call out the specific poster please.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

By last year, you mean when he was on the Rangers or Hawks? I recall a few Hawks posters singing that tune a couple of seasons ago, but the sentiment was hardly expressed by the majority of posters here. The overwhelming majority see/saw him for what he is: an unproven giant. It just seems pretty disingenuous to bring this up now because it certainly gives the impression that there are Sabres fans that anointed him the "champ" when that's not the case. Try and stay current or call out the specific poster please.

Disingenuous? Hardly.

If anything, it's disingenuous for you to put unspoken/unwritten words in my mouth.

I never singled out "the majority", "the minority" or any other specific group of posters on here. Nor can any specific group be inferred from my original post, other than "any poster who held/holds the belief that Scott is/was the NHL heavyweight champ", period. You're the one who inaccurately perceived my posts to be directed at current Buffalo fans, despite my neither explicitly nor implicitly suggesting it. If you believe I'm wrong about this, please show me where I either said or even implied it.

You asked me a question. I gave you an answer. I was either, able to show you WHO was saying it/WHERE it was being said, or I wasn't. I'm pretty certain I sufficiently showed you both who was saying it AND where it was being said.

I just remembered that you're a Buffalo fan. Now I realize why this might be a bone of contention for you. I have no objection to clarifying that this particular brand of Scott homerism only occurred (to my knowledge) when Scott was playing for Chicago, but I believe the links I've posted (above) pretty clearly speak for themselves.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Disingenuous? Hardly.

If anything, it's disingenuous for you to put unspoken/unwritten words in my mouth.

I never singled out "the majority", "the minority" or any other specific group of posters on here. Nor can any specific group be inferred from my original post, other than "any poster who held/holds the belief that Scott is/was the NHL heavyweight champ", period. You're the one who inaccurately perceived my posts to be directed at current Buffalo fans, despite my neither explicitly nor implicitly suggesting it. If you believe I'm wrong about this, please show me where I either said or even implied it.


I just remembered that you're a Buffalo fan. Now I realize why this might be a bone of contention for you. I have no objection to clarifying that this particular brand of Scott homerism only occurred (to my knowledge) when Scott was playing for Chicago, but I believe the links I've posted (above) pretty clearly speak for themselves.

My issue was that you made a link between what was virtually one poster (BigArms) hyping Scott two teams and over a year ago and his loss to Orr as a Sabre. I appreciate your clarification.

[I_am_Belak_2]

Welp, I think Orr is back

[Humpzilla]

He's back!

[Peters 76]

One lucky shot. Scott will take care of him in a week.

[I_am_Belak_2]

Originally Posted by Peters 76

One lucky shot. Scott will take care of him in a week.

Still in denial I see.

[Peters 76]

of what? I can definitely see Scott exposing the chin next week. He will already be pissed at taking an L.

[SabresFanatic]

Originally Posted by Peters 76

One lucky shot. Scott will take care of him in a week.

I don't believe that Scott was knocked down by a body shot. Orr got one in early Scott got one in late and then slipped as he threw a punch. Could be a homer call but I watched the video about ten times.

No doubt Orr is back though...good to see legit HWs in the game! the East is toughening up!

[ewen21]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

It's good to see a reinvented Orr back! If he has the card Hump mentioned, With his wide open style it's just a matter of time before he eats a big shot... I hope his concussion history doesn't come into play.

He doesn't seem to care about defense. He just wants to wind up and throw bombs. With that will come consequences. The most predictable thing of this season will be that eventually Colton Orr will get CRUSHED.

Book it

[Cat Smasher]

Gotta funny feeling about Carkner tomorrow...

[ewen21]

Originally Posted by Cat Smasher

Gotta funny feeling about Carkner tomorrow...

He needs to think defense a little more in his fights. I like Orr, always have. I'd like to see him have a full season, but he's come out of the gate wayyy too fast. It's hard to put the brakes on that kind of thing once you become a "frequent flyer". I guess he's very confident in what he's got right now--and that's good, but he's way too open in his technique and there are plenty of big guys with long reaches who can exploit his style. This just reeks of trouble the way he's going about things.