Official 2009-10 Carolina Hurricanes Thread

[RedWolf]

I'll go to his house and beg, just give me an address.

Having just taken the salary hit on Legacy, and without a clear focus on what they need to breath life into this zombie of a team, JR won't touch Big Mac.

But they should...

-This team is DEAD LAST in the league, how much could he hurt?
-People say he's to slow, no problem, our team is old and slow.
-Let's get fans talking about anything but the train wreck the season has become.

It's going to be hard to build a new team if your seat revenue keeps dropping, as a fan it gets real old going to watch "the other guy" kick the sh*t out of your team (I 'm reminded of this every time I pass the Carolina Panthers stadium). Those seats (the ones I notice getting more and more empty) in RBC could start looking like the ones in Bank of America Stadium.

[RedWolf]

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/n...ry/182973.html

Backup Michael Leighton will be pressed into starting duty while the club opted not to recall a goaltender from their AHL affiliate in Albany.

Legace has not played in the NHL this season, but was 13-9-2 with a 3.18 goals-against average in 29 games last year as the backup in St. Louis.

He was 2-2-1 with one shutout for the AHL's Chicago Wolves in 2009-10.


The Upside - This is one decision (not calling up Peters) the team has made that I agree with 100%.

[The Boogie Man]

Its really a shame this team doesn't add a heavyweight just from the standpoint of exciting fans, putting people in the seats, and protecting the youngsters in this lost season. If you don't want to waste a spot on strictly a fighter when your team is on top of its game and your philosophy is working then fine, but its not the teams terrible it surely won't cost us the game. Maurice plays Yelle, Conboy, whoever is on that 4th line so few minutes, (conboy gets less than 2) no reason MacIntyre couldn't come in and do the same and you have a legitimate scary guy on the team with him out there. People are going to fight with him but I don't think anyones going to go lay out Boychuk to get his attention, I think the heavies handle their business early in the game and react again accordingly from there on. It allows Ruutu to play hard, it allows Walker, Alberts, A. Ward to play bodies and rough people up and someones got their back, it just makes sense and it blows that we never have one. I don't want to see come January against Boston one of the rats laid out on the ice and then we talk about needing some protection, its just frustrating.


And just to add to reliability of Eklunds reports. Really you have to treat his site as a novelty, its fun to read names and pretend what might be but most of that stuff just does not work out. Example being at 1:30pm today Eklund posts that the Hurricanes are still looking for a backup goalie and are in talks with Toronto for Toskala and Whitney is included! Now it may just be me but I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that we probably aren't going to trade Whitney for Toskala and probably aren't interested in Toskala at all on the same day we just signed Manny Legace 4 hours earlier. Did someone thats an insider and supposedly privy to all this information in advance not catch the news release to the public 4 hours earlier that Legace had been signed?

and for what its worth i wrote to paul branecky about macintyre. thats the best i know to do.

[staal4pm]

I think we can all agree that Big Mac, or anything resembling Big Mac, is a pipe dream at this point. We all thought that the team would just have to hit the tank big time and we would see an influx of young guys and then some protection. Well what is happening now? The team hit the tank big time, we're seeing a somewhat influx of young kids (even though Boychuk was sent down, him and Sutter made up 10% of the lineup), and no protection. Maybe we just haven't gotten to that point yet.

Sorry I was out of place this weekend, but I agree 100% with what you said about leaving Peters be in Albany. I think that having two AHL-caliber goalies to platoon on your NHL team is not the answer. Yes this team is horrible, yes we're at rock-bottom, but that would give a message of quitting to the players on the team (who haven't already), the league, and even to the relatively few knowledgeable fans. Peters is having a fairly good season in Albany (5-4-1, 2.19 GAA, 0.925 SAV%) and those are solid numbers but he's only 13th in GAA and SAV%. The goalie stats there are pretty sick; this guy in Texas has a 1.12 GAA and a 0.961 SAV% with 2 shutouts through 7 games. To me, you just can't make that move to Peters as that would hinder his development...we've all seen the way he's looked the past two preseasons here.

Likewise a trade wasn't an option either. For starters we'd have to get rid of a player that we either want going forward or could get us assets later and spend him on a goalie we'd use for a stopgap, temporary goaltender. If you think we'd keep Ward's salary, play him 65-70 games, and take on Toskala's contract to have him play once a month you're crazy. I'm looking at you Eklund.

Legace is as good a move as we could have made. Veteran guy who seems to be well-liked everywhere he goes. He's got some skills and he should be a settling presence. Although, and we said this on the podcast, with the way the team is playing it doesn't matter who you put in net...they're going to give up goals.

And some more food for thought: at 2-11-3 and we are making a legitimate run at the worst record in NHL history, a 9-57-14 mark for the 1980-1981 Winnipeg Jets. If we have less than 32 points after game #80, that baby is all ours.

[RedWolf]

Originally Posted by staal4pm

And some more food for thought: at 2-11-3 and we are making a legitimate run at the worst record in NHL history, a 9-57-14 mark for the 1980-1981 Winnipeg Jets. If we have less than 32 points after game #80, that baby is all ours.

The "record" would look good along side our failure to make the playoffs for 2 years after winning the cup record. Finally a goal we might reach.

[Mr. America]

I don't understand people acting like we can still make the playoffs. We are already realistically eliminated. We'd have to get something like well over 40 wins from this point on.

If anybody thinks we still stand a chance to make the playoffs I'd like to have some of whatever substances your drinking, swallowing, injecting, inhaling...

Whats the record for being mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs? We cant' be far from that.

[The Boogie Man]

the canes would have to go 45-21 to make 97 points.
the best team the avalanche only have to go 35-28-1 to make 97 points.

florida claimed macintyre so we'll get to watch him beat on us at least.

[RedWolf]

Originally Posted by The Boogie Man

florida claimed macintyre so we'll get to watch him beat on us at least.

Sweet now I can watch FL and not the Oilers.

Some interesting twitter updateds from the Canes official page:

1. According to Coach Paul Maurice, Manny Legace will get the start in goal tomorrow night against the LA Kings.16 minutes ago from web

2. Manny Legace will make his Hurricanes debut against the Kings Wednesday night at the RBC Center.29 minutes ago from mobile web

3. Sutter back at center for Tuesday practice, Pitkanen misses another day with minor illness. Forward lines: http://carhur.com/249

[Mr. America]

Originally Posted by The Boogie Man

the canes would have to go 45-21 to make 97 points.
the best team the avalanche only have to go 35-28-1 to make 97 points.

florida claimed macintyre so we'll get to watch him beat on us at least.

I have us needing to go from today on at something around 40-16-10 to hit 97 points. No matter how you add up the points and numbers we ARE NOT going to get near 40 wins over the last 66 games.

[Mr. America]

Also, I hope MacIntyre mauls somebody on our team over 30 or Chad Larose.

[The Boogie Man]

Rodney has been recalled for tonights game vs LA, Pitkanen out with a sickness. Interesting that Rodney was called up over Harrison, I'm guessing we've seen the last of Harrison on the Hurricanes.

[Mr. America]

What I want to know is... we have 2 big stars with long term injuries, we have 2 stars that are questionable (Whitney/Pitkanene), but they dick around till the last minute to call somebody up? KNOWING that we'll likely need SOMEBODY... Instead using the last 3 days to get Rodney here and with the team, he doesn't get here till this afternoon, no practice with the team whatsoever...

Who's steering this ship?

[The Boogie Man]

Yeah I agree, Whitney and Pitkanen both doubtful, questionable, sick, what have you all week long. So we fly Rodney in through the Hurricane here last minute and hope that he gets here in time to play. At this point I want anyone questionable, half hurt, sick, coughing whatever to be out and someone else that can give it 100% to go. Look at Ruutu out there skating around half speed every game, I think Boychuk can go out there and do that.

[The Boogie Man]

and ofcourse i say something bad about ruutu and he lights it up but he had been playing half speed ever since the hit on tucker. a ward you can go directly to waivers you are terrible. rodney can stay up, don't know who to pair him with though. put him with wallin on the 3rd pairing and move alberts up with corvo and have a top pair of pitkanen gleason, that doesnt seem too bad. yelle goes down, walker goes down, looks like we'll have more rats called up after all. also looks like we've got room for that enforcer roster spot by now, oh well.

[staal4pm]

Originally Posted by The Boogie Man

and ofcourse i say something bad about ruutu and he lights it up

Haha, sorry Cody I had to do that. Not an hour and a half before puck drop. Please call some more of our guys out. Ruutu, I thought, played a GREAT game last night. Aside from his 2 goals (2 lazer wrist shots) he was a +2 and had a couple of hits. The team was floating like plastic bags the first period but it was like Ruutu just got pissed off and started to play some hockey. He absolutely freight-trained one of their defenseman (maybe Drewiske?) that seemed to spark us a bit. If you heard any of his post-game comments you could tell he was pissed, frustrated, etc and that I think will look good on his game.

By the way, last night was the first game I got to go to this season. And I thought they looked bad on TV....

I saw Florida claimed Big Mac but then I saw they turned right around and put him on waivers. Anyone know if he's going to be up. He can't be any worse than McArdle. Didn't Florida have him prior to Edmonton?

On the brighter side, I thought Legace didn't look half bad last night. He had no shot on those PP goals or the Simmonds goal, that was just dreadful defensive zone coverage and an awful turnover. It was a 2-2 game in the third and he gave us a chance to win. We'll see who gets the nod Friday.

Rodney played a good game too, especially for being recalled at 2:30, sitting in planes and through airport delays, and arriving about 40 minutes prior to puck drop. Over 20:00, 4 hits, 4 blocked shots and an even rating, which is saying something in a 5-2 game. I will hold out hope Harrison may be back up here as Rodney is more offensive-minded and a more fitting replacement to Pitkanen. I just hope it's not H1N1. We're about do for a flu to rampage it's way through our locker room.

Wow, that was WAY too much sunshine and rainbows for a 2-12-3 team. Does it look like this team will ever win again?