Game 6: Detroit at Pittsburgh 6/9/09

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by jkidd

What a game... what a ****ing game.

Rob Scuderi and Brooks Orpik both played out of their mind tonight.

That game, in itself is why hockey is the greatest sport. You can't ask for guys to sacrifice themselves more. You can't ask them to put their bodies on the line anymore than that.

Its amazing... just amazing what some of these guys put themselves through.

It's funny how at the beginning of the finals you were criticizing the finals. Saying you would rather watch tennis or something. This coming from a guy who watches the Minnesota Wild play. With all their french visor wearing pu$$y players.

Not that I think your wrong about this post. The finals are awsome. I just find your somewhat disengenous.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

Sorta like those powerplays in the third Detroit got by diving?

You mean a cross check to the back and a stick to the mouth. Yea your almost close retard.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by westgennylax3

even the announcers said it...the SECOND attempt after the kick save u see em both grab for it with scuderis glove under fleurys...and how can any of you watch that and not think for a second those 2 huge hits were not penalties...yes im on a hockeyfights site but id much rather watch my team win a cup then get ****ed over

Any chance someone can take the tampon out of your vagina and insert it into your mouth?

That's an embarrassing post. The Pens won with grit last night. First time I have seen them outgrit Detroit in the series. Great game. Props to Pens.

[Skorka85]

Dude....multiquote.

[nyislesfan45]

Originally Posted by canuck2

You mean a cross check to the back and a stick to the mouth. Yea your almost close retard.

I don't see why you are calling him a retard. The only reason why that got called was because the guy fell head first into his own player and stayed down, the stick barely touched him. On the slow motion replay, you couldn't even see if the stick hit Draper, who then played dead.

[jkidd]

Originally Posted by canuck2

It's funny how at the beginning of the finals you were criticizing the finals. Saying you would rather watch tennis or something. This coming from a guy who watches the Minnesota Wild play. With all their french visor wearing pu$$y players.

Not that I think your wrong about this post. The finals are awsome. I just find your somewhat disengenous.

That's the best you can come up with?

Wow... I was expecting a lot better. Its amazing how good hockey can be, when one team is backed against a wall and has their home fans rocking them on, and they play liked a caged animal.

Speaking of course of Pittsburgh.

IMO, it still looks like a lot of Red Wing players are just going through the motions. Call it being cool under pressure or whatever you want, but, the hits they were taking and had NO answer for... ****... couldn't look any more heartless and passionless.

Thank god for guys like Darren Helm, Brad Stuart, Chris Kunitz, Brooks Orpik, Maxime Talbot, Rob Scuderi, pains me to say - but Matt Cooke, Jordan Staal, Tyler Kennedy, and Billy Guerin. The guys that made that game enjoyable by putting it all on the line when they had to. For playing the game with reckless, controlled passion. For playing the game the way it should be ****ing played. That's what makes the game enjoyable. Refer to the other threads about my feelings on games 1 and 2, where very little of the passion was there. Hence the comments.

Giving credit where its due, the hits the Wings got up from were amazing. Shows a lot of fortitude and determination. But, do something about it. ****ing *******.

Anything else you wanna talk about?

[Churla27]

Originally Posted by stremb

I didnt watch one bit of this game.

well thanks for the input anyways

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by nyislesfan45

I don't see why you are calling him a retard. The only reason why that got called was because the guy fell head first into his own player and stayed down, the stick barely touched him. On the slow motion replay, you couldn't even see if the stick hit Draper, who then played dead.

Really nice rational by you. The guy fell head first into the back of another player. If that's not a dangerous play what is? By your same rational Bertuzzi would not have broken Moore's neck if it wasnt skinny.

Draper was hit in the mouth. did you not see Guerin skate immediatly to the penalty box? He didnt argue the call. He knew he struck Draper in the mouth. Penalty in any era of hockey.

wrong by you on both counts.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by jkidd

That's the best you can come up with?

Wow... I was expecting a lot better. Its amazing how good hockey can be, when one team is backed against a wall and has their home fans rocking them on, and they play liked a caged animal.

Speaking of course of Pittsburgh.

IMO, it still looks like a lot of Red Wing players are just going through the motions. Call it being cool under pressure or whatever you want, but, the hits they were taking and had NO answer for... ****... couldn't look any more heartless and passionless.

Thank god for guys like Darren Helm, Brad Stuart, Chris Kunitz, Brooks Orpik, Maxime Talbot, Rob Scuderi, pains me to say - but Matt Cooke, Jordan Staal, Tyler Kennedy, and Billy Guerin. The guys that made that game enjoyable by putting it all on the line when they had to. For playing the game with reckless, controlled passion. For playing the game the way it should be ****ing played. That's what makes the game enjoyable. Refer to the other threads about my feelings on games 1 and 2, where very little of the passion was there. Hence the comments.

Giving credit where its due, the hits the Wings got up from were amazing. Shows a lot of fortitude and determination. But, do something about it. ****ing *******.

Anything else you wanna talk about?

How about answering my question for starters?

How can you watch the Wild play all year and then call the Finals first two games boring?

I'm not sure what all the ********* are all over your posts but it's typical tough guy talk by you.

These two teams are both generally soft but both are doing an equal amount of hitting. I'm not sure what game your watching but I dont see the Wings "going through the motions".

Yes it's obvious you hate the Red Wings. It's a popular band wagon thing on here. But they do what your sissy Wild fail to do: win.

[nyislesfan45]

Originally Posted by canuck2

Really nice rational by you. The guy fell head first into the back of another player. If that's not a dangerous play what is?

Draper was hit in the mouth. did you not see Guerin skate immediatly to the penalty box? He didnt argue the call.

wrong by you on both counts.

Worse things have happened when guys aren't touched by a stick. Until he hit his own guy, that wouldn't have been called.

The slow-mo shows a stick near his face, then him spinning around and dropping to the ice trying to draw the call. I'm pretty sure as a veteran, Guerin isn't going to argue a call that late in the game. He already has one guy that complains to the refs enough on his line anyway.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by nyislesfan45

Worse things have happened when guys aren't touched by a stick. Until he hit his own guy, that wouldn't have been called.

The slow-mo shows a stick near his face, then him spinning around and dropping to the ice trying to draw the call. I'm pretty sure as a veteran, Guerin isn't going to argue a call that late in the game. He already has one guy that complains to the refs enough on his line anyway.

You just continue on with your foolishness dont you. What's a matter Redtown not here to school you?

BUT HE DID HIT HIS OWN GUY AND SNAPPED HIS NECK BACK. what the fuk is your point. The play was called on what actually happened not your hypothetical.

Guerin would surely have argued a call in the last part of the most important game of his life IF his stick didnt strike Draper in the face. Are you that clueless about hockey. Do you think he cares that Crosby would have cried about it and he didnt want to be associated with his cry baby linemate.

[nyislesfan45]

I see you went back and edited your post. Your analogy is a little off, I'm not talking about a sucker punch, Malkin is going for the puck with Fillipulla and gave him a little shove, that happens a million times a game, even the ref was unsure if it was a penalty considering he took 5 seconds to raise his arm. The NBC replay you couldn't see if the stick touched him, if you saw a replay I didn't, then that's fine. I don't see what you are all worked up about or why you twisted my words around, my only point was that these were borderline calls, thanks for your hockey knowledge.

[jkidd]

Originally Posted by canuck2

How about answering my question for starters?

How can you watch the Wild play all year and then call the Finals first two games boring?

I'm not sure what all the ********* are all over your posts but it's typical tough guy talk by you.

These two teams are both generally soft but both are doing an equal amount of hitting. I'm not sure what game your watching but I dont see the Wings "going through the motions".

Yes it's obvious you hate the Red Wings. It's a popular band wagon thing on here. But they do what your sissy Wild fail to do: win.

Why don't you search for the answer? The Wild team forum is an open forum ya know. But, to "answer" your question, here ya go:

Originally Posted by jkidd

Gave up my tickets to the game, for a family event. Sounds like it was a great game to miss. I'll have to scope it out tomorrow when I get home from work.

No Boogaard either eh? Makes the team nearly intolerable to watch.

Originally Posted by Jkidd

Cal and Boogs are definitely the best part of the team. Throw in Erik Reitz lighting people up on the back end, and the team has one more person to enjoy, giving them a fresh 3/18 of a team that is enjoyable to watch. God, thats ****ing pathetic...

Originally Posted by Jkidd

If the season continues on its current course, which, lets face it, it likely will because of Dougie having the reigns in hand. This team isn't anything special to go to.

THE ONLY REASON I SHOW UP TO A GAME IS FIGHTING. I never thought I'd hear myself say that. As I'm a huge fan of winning and hockey in general. But there is no other reason to go to a game. And I'm not even paying for tickets. I've turned more games off this season, than I have in the franchise history, combined.

Games are lackluster, boring, pre-scripted, irritating, emotionless, and downright pathetic to even attempt at being a fan of. Its frustrating being a fan of a team that has no commitment to winning, and even worse yet, is that management doesn't think there is a problem. That is what makes this ship look even uglier. And by that, I mean, it give us as fans, ZERO HOPE that this team is going change.

We have guys on the team that show no emotion, won't do what it takes to win games, and have no desire to change their game. I think you can watch one game and find out who those players are. The main 4 I want to look at:

Pierre-Marc Bouchard... why he is back, I'll never know.
Marian Gaborik... why he wasn't traded this offseason, I'll never know. See "Marian Hossa" for more details as to why.
Kim Johnsson... we wouldn't want him to break a nail and help the team by going into a corner.
Martin Skoula... see Johnsson, but throw in the turnover factor, and his unwillingness to use his big frame.

Thats two top line players for this team, and two top pair blue liners for the team, and to make matters worse, our captain is up there, and our most offensively skilled player.

Trade Kim Johnsson for a pick, bring up John Scott.
Trade PMB for a pick, bring up Matt Kassian.
Trade Martin Skoula, sign and bring up Mitch Love
Trade Marian Gabork for picks or gritty good players.

Lets make this team at least interesting to watch if the damn ship is going to sink.

Early in the season I know, but the way this team has played lately, and with who's running it, I see it only being more of the same, with a blind eye from the front office.

Good enough on that?

And, I'm not sure how because I'm a fan of my home town team, that means I don't have an opinion on what good hockey is? Especially because I rip them for essentially playing like the Red Wings.

But, proof is in the puddin...

And again, wow. You have to insult the Wild to try and validate your opinion? Please nuck2. If you're going to rip me, at least provide some substance. If you thought the hitting was equal in that game, at least provide the ****tily kept stat of "hits" to prove it - but - that doesn't even validate your opinion. Because, unlike you, I'll actually research it... 26 for Detroit and 35 for the Pens. And, on top of that, how many "memorable" hits did you see in that game aside? I can remember 4 solid, memorable hits from the Pens... Kunitz drilling Rafalski. Cooke killing Datsyuk. Kunitz on the end boards on Lidstrom (I think). Orpik hipping Cleary I believe, on a stoppage even.

So... what more do you want to talk about?

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by jkidd

Why don't you search for the answer? The Wild team forum is an open forum ya know. But, to "answer" your question, here ya go:





Good enough on that?

And, I'm not sure how because I'm a fan of my home town team, that means I don't have an opinion on what good hockey is? Especially because I rip them for essentially playing like the Red Wings.

But, proof is in the puddin...

And again, wow. You have to insult the Wild to try and validate your opinion? Please nuck2. If you're going to rip me, at least provide some substance. If you thought the hitting was equal in that game, at least provide the ****tily kept stat of "hits" to prove it - but - that doesn't even validate your opinion. Because, unlike you, I'll actually research it... 26 for Detroit and 35 for the Pens. And, on top of that, how many "memorable" hits did you see in that game aside? I can remember 4 solid, memorable hits from the Pens... Kunitz drilling Rafalski. Cooke killing Datsyuk. Kunitz on the end boards on Lidstrom (I think). Orpik hipping Cleary I believe, on a stoppage even.

So... what more do you want to talk about?

Fair enough about the Wild I guess I'm guilty of not keeping up with your 20,000 posts.

I'm glad your one of those new age fans that need to rely on the in game stats like "hits". they are a joke. I can actually watch a game a make my own assumption.

I dont have anymore to talk to you about Mr. General Manager. Until next time.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by nyislesfan45

I see you went back and edited your post. Your analogy is a little off, I'm not talking about a sucker punch, Malkin is going for the puck with Fillipulla and gave him a little shove, that happens a million times a game, even the ref was unsure if it was a penalty considering he took 5 seconds to raise his arm. The NBC replay you couldn't see if the stick touched him, if you saw a replay I didn't, then that's fine. I don't see what you are all worked up about or why you twisted my words around, my only point was that these were borderline calls, thanks for your hockey knowledge.

Fair enough about the Bertuzzi hit.

Malkin was not "going for the puck". He was going for the hit. And your right it happens frequently in a game, but when you take a chance and cross check (not shove like you say) and it happens to result in a guy snapping his head back on someone it is a penalty. And yes you are correct it took him a couple of seconds to raise his arm but it still was the CORRECT call.