Game 5: Pittsburgh at Detroit 6/6/09

[Burnsy87]

I reaallllyyyy hope Maltby/Sammy/Hudler/Kopecky get the boot this off-season. Let some real grit get a turn, and let our young guys play.

[wacbzz]

Originally Posted by SirYohans

Jimbo's making sense, but you WTF? You can't tell me that you don't see anything wrong with what's happened in these playoffs. Yes, you guys are still winning because you are an elite team, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg should NEVER have fighting majors. That is a problem that should be addressed. If they get hurt, you don't get the Cup. If you don't wanna risk shaking up the lineup by bringing up a guy who fights (like that's gonna really make the Detroit Fvckin Red Wings stink.) Then someone currently in the lineup gotta take the reigns.

I don't believe you if you tell me this doesn't upset you as a Wings fan.

I have faith in Babs and the owners. They have displayed to many naysayers that the way they win is through the PP. Tonight was a prime example.

As for Dats and Hank getting into fights...look who they are/have been going up against. Malkin and Niedermayer. I'm not worried that they will be "hurt."

Game on...

[jimbo1026]

Originally Posted by Churla27

OK then you got my apology (even though I said not to you a post from this thread) But you backed it up with another one so that works.

Accepted

[wacbzz]

Originally Posted by Churla27

Yes but unlike you I admit when I'm wrong. That's a grown up thing to do. That alone just shows that your probably a 12 year old who's up too late using the computer without letting his parents know.

When you prove me wrong, I'll admit it.

That day has yet to pass...

[Churla27]

Originally Posted by Burnsy87

I reaallllyyyy hope Maltby/Sammy/Hudler/Kopecky get the boot this off-season. Let some real grit get a turn, and let our young guys play.

Yes. I know it was 25 years ago but I was looking at Boxscores from the 1985-86 season when the Wings set the NHL record for fights in the regular season (with about 130-140 fights). It makes me sad to see the Wings now. It's almost a joke. They can even get 12 fights in a season.

[norrisnick]

Originally Posted by Isles4life

What exactly does another dumb penalty mean at this point? The game's outcome is already decided, and as long as it doesn't risk a suspension for the next game, I'm all for using physical intimidation.

There isn't a damn thing the Pens or anyone else can dish out that would intimidate the Wings. Not fighting doesn't mean they're scared, or cowards, or *******, or anything else. It just means they think it's a waste of time and effort. They're still gonna play their game. They're still gonna go to the hard areas of the ice. They're not going to shy away from the corners or top of the crease.

The Wings aren't scared of Cooke. They aren't scared of Orpik. They aren't scared of Kunitz. Etc... Fighting them just isn't worth their time.

[Churla27]

Originally Posted by wacbzz

When you prove me wrong, I'll admit it.

That day has yet to pass...

so your going to use the "I'm never wrong" approach. That's good That doesnt make you look like an @ss at all

[Churla27]

Originally Posted by norrisnick

There isn't a damn thing the Pens or anyone else can dish out that would intimidate the Wings. Not fighting doesn't mean they're scared, or cowards, or *******, or anything else. It just means they think it's a waste of time and effort. They're still gonna play their game. They're still gonna go to the hard areas of the ice. They're not going to shy away from the corners or top of the crease.

The Wings aren't scared of Cooke. They aren't scared of Orpik. They aren't scared of Kunitz. Etc... Fighting them just isn't worth their time.

No but they are afraid of Malkin. Ask Zetterberg. He wouldn't even drop the gloves with this "heavyweight"

[wacbzz]

Originally Posted by Churla27

Yes. I know it was 25 years ago but I was looking at Boxscores from the 1985-86 season when the Wings set the NHL record for fights in the regular season (with about 130-140 fights). It makes me sad to see the Wings now. It's almost a joke. They can even get 12 fights in a season.

Hey, btw, where did the Wings finish up in the 85-86 season? Weren't they 17-57-6 that season?

Yeah...that seems like an Islanders record or something...embarrassing.

[norrisnick]

Originally Posted by Churla27

No but they are afraid of Malkin. Ask Zetterberg. He wouldn't even drop the gloves with this "heavyweight"

That doesn't mean he's afraid. Why in the world would Z waste his time fighting Malkin or anyone else? Not to mention potentially **** up his hands? It's not a matter of fear. It's a matter of not being stupid.

[Churla27]

Originally Posted by wacbzz

Hey, btw, where did the Wings finish up in the 85-86 season? Weren't they 17-57-6 that season?

Yeah...that seems like an Islanders record or something...embarrassing.

Yup the 1985-86 season, 10 years before you were born.

Ok smart guy. I was also looking at 1987-88 boxscores when the Red Wings were 41-28-11 and they had 114 fights. They made it all the way to the Conference finals only to lose to a team that had 94 fights (The Oilers). Whats your next excuse going to be "that was 20 years ago"?

If you want to use modern day I have all boxscores from the Ducks when they won the cup with 70+ fights. Want me to keep going?

[Churla27]

Originally Posted by norrisnick

That doesn't mean he's afraid. Why in the world would Z waste his time fighting Malkin or anyone else? Not to mention potentially **** up his hands? It's not a matter of fear. It's a matter of not being stupid.

What I said was a complete joke. If you didnt notice the smiley face. Where's you sense of humor?

[smichaels10]

Originally Posted by Burnsy87

I reaallllyyyy hope Maltby/Sammy/Hudler/Kopecky get the boot this off-season. Let some real grit get a turn, and let our young guys play.

I agree with Maltby and Kopecky but if you get rid of Sammy & Hudler, that's over 40 goals you have to replace.

[skacore]

Well that was a shocker. Easy to watch as a Wings fan, but I can imagine how disappointing it would be for everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pittsburgh come out in game 6 and maybe get the win but I don't see them winning two straight, but then again who knows.

Wings came out hitting and I was really impressed by that, Pens were pretty physical as well but then they just got dumb. Yeah there were a few incidents where the Wings weren't too interesting in fighting but look at the big picture here, 1 win from the Stanley Cup and a huge win, I don't really blame the guys for not having the desire to fight a depleted, embarrassed Penguins squad. Let's just say I've seen a lot worse scenarios where the Wings turn the other cheek, because tonight they were banging until the final whistle, even up 5-0.

This game wasn't as bad as some of you are making it out to be, but I can understand why you would be frustrated after a game like this.

[wacbzz]

Originally Posted by Churla27

If you want to use modern day I have all boxscores from the Ducks when they won the cup with 70+ fights. Want me to keep going?

Complete apparition. Do you understand what that means?