Boston at Montreal 11/22/08

[brandonh19]

Originally Posted by yohan

actually i saw laraque shadowing him and looch laughing at him.. if he wants to fight, run kessel or savard. he didnt do anything but look stupid.. looch laughed at him, scored, then did the god pose...priceless!!

laraque has more class than that hes not gonna involve someone that has nothing to do with the situation, hes not gonna attempt to hurt someone because lucic is being a little bitch liek are u listening to yourself....

[steg1989]

Gonna go out on a limb, and say that Lucic did the right thing in declining. First reason being Carboneau sending out Laraque everytime Lucic was on the ice had to have set Montreal's game plan off. It's like they were trying to settle a score, instead of trying to win the game. Julien, being the smarter coach in this instance, told Lucic not to fight. And Lucic even managed to get a goal out of all the shenanigans. I think this really got under Carboneau's skin and maybe even Laraque's. Bottom line, is that it was the right thing to do here. But maybe down the road, I think I would enjoy to see a battle between the two. I think it could be good rivalry if Laraque keeps egging him on until Lucic snaps.

[WBC8]

Originally Posted by steg1989

Gonna go out on a limb, and say that Lucic did the right thing in declining. First reason being Carboneau sending out Laraque everytime Lucic was on the ice had to have set Montreal's game plan off. It's like they were trying to settle a score, instead of trying to win the game. Julien, being the smarter coach in this instance, told Lucic not to fight. And Lucic even managed to get a goal out of all the shenanigans. I think this really got under Carboneau's skin and maybe even Laraque's. Bottom line, is that it was the right thing to do here. But maybe down the road, I think I would enjoy to see a battle between the two. I think it could be good rivalry if Laraque keeps egging him on until Lucic snaps.

The cat is out of the bag now IMO with Julien going on record telling Lucic not to fight him...Laraques may not be so insistent from here on out as I'm sure he has some respect for Milan.

[Alexifighter1]

Bostons fans are funny.

Laraque should of thrown the body on Lucic, he had a few chances to where he didnt...

Lucic is a good player.. no doubt.. but why should Komisarek have to fight him - Komisarek's smaller, less fight experience - same situation with Lucic and Laraque..

[justinnnnnnn14]

has lucic even fought a single heavyweight yet?
david clarkson? pfft, teh guys horrible. nick boyton, yeah okayy. komisareks just a tough customer, not a figher.
edwards needs to learn the game of hcoeky and realize that thers a difference between being a tough guy playin the game and a tough guy throwing the fists around
lucic hasnt had a real test yet. he's not a cherrypicker but he's not exactly going with anybody thats respected around this league. erkstine was the closest to a heavyweight and lucic got POUNDEDDD.
i think the kids great, but backing down from BGL tonight, i found really pathetic. he knew it was coming, and with everybody from boston saying how tough he is, back it up.
laraque would have beaten him down with his lefts, like he does to just about everybody.

[AllHailKingDJ]

Originally Posted by Alexifighter1

Bostons fans are funny.

Laraque should of thrown the body on Lucic, he had a few chances to where he didnt...

Lucic is a good player.. no doubt.. but why should Komisarek have to fight him - Komisarek's smaller, less fight experience - same situation with Lucic and Laraque..

Komisarek isn't smaller; he weighs over 240 pounds. Which is why it's pretty funny that a guy like Laraque has to fight his battles for him because he got his ass kicked by a guy who weighs roughly 20 pounds less than him.

Komisarek does have less fighting experience, but he's still fought guys like Brashear, Godard, Neil, etc. He can handle himself, even if he isn't as good a fighter as Lucic and lost to Lucic. And again, do you really not see the difference in Lucic/Komisarek vs. Lucic/Laraque?

I'll re-post what I said earlier: "Lucic and Komisarek had a rivalry going for over a year that included questionable hits both ways, constant trash talking and both are good players. Lucic and Laraque have no rivalry to speak of, Laraque is too slow to hit anyone and is a useless hockey player. Lucic also weighs 20 pounds less than Komisarek and Laraque weighs about 40 pounds more than Lucic. Lucic and Komisarek are in that same middleweight/light heavyweight class, Laraque is the heavyweight champ."

Not to mention, Julien admitted he had a ban on Lucic fighting Laraque tonight. I don't recall any such ban on Komisarek fighting Lucic and I don't see how Komisarek/Lucic is remotely comparable to Laraque/Lucic.

Montreal has acted like Lucic fought a 180 pound foward like Koivu. The guy fought one of their toughest players who weighs 240 pounds and has fought some legit heavies in the past. I don't recall the Bruins getting so upset with Erskine and acting like he fought Kessel when Lucic lost in similar fashion to him (getting some good shots in early, then catching one late and basically being bad shape for the rest of the fight).

[AllHailKingDJ]

Originally Posted by justinnnnnnn14

has lucic even fought a single heavyweight yet?
david clarkson? pfft, teh guys horrible. nick boyton, yeah okayy. komisareks just a tough customer, not a figher.
edwards needs to learn the game of hcoeky and realize that thers a difference between being a tough guy playin the game and a tough guy throwing the fists around
lucic hasnt had a real test yet. he's not a cherrypicker but he's not exactly going with anybody thats respected around this league. erkstine was the closest to a heavyweight and lucic got POUNDEDDD.
i think the kids great, but backing down from BGL tonight, i found really pathetic. he knew it was coming, and with everybody from boston saying how tough he is, back it up.
laraque would have beaten him down with his lefts, like he does to just about everybody.

Lucic fought Ivanans and Brookbank as well as Erskine last year.

Is it your opinion that a 20 year old Lucic should've disregarded his coaches orders and fought Laraque to prove to justin14 on hockeyfights.com that he has balls?

[Churla27]

Did anyone really think Lucic was going to fight Laraque? Seriously. The fact that they didn't fight tonight just shows how much of a p_ssy Lucic is.

[Alexifighter1]

Originally Posted by AllHailKingDJ

Komisarek isn't smaller; he weighs over 240 pounds. Which is why it's pretty funny that a guy like Laraque has to fight his battles for him because he got his ass kicked by a guy who weighs roughly 20 pounds less than him.

Komisarek does have less fighting experience, but he's still fought guys like Brashear, Godard, Neil, etc. He can handle himself, even if he isn't as good a fighter as Lucic and lost to Lucic. And again, do you really not see the difference in Lucic/Komisarek vs. Lucic/Laraque?

I'll re-post what I said earlier: "Lucic and Komisarek had a rivalry going for over a year that included questionable hits both ways, constant trash talking and both are good players. Lucic and Laraque have no rivalry to speak of, Laraque is too slow to hit anyone and is a useless hockey player. Lucic also weighs 20 pounds less than Komisarek and Laraque weighs about 40 pounds more than Lucic. Lucic and Komisarek are in that same middleweight/light heavyweight class, Laraque is the heavyweight champ."

Not to mention, Julien admitted he had a ban on Lucic fighting Laraque tonight. I don't recall any such ban on Komisarek fighting Lucic.

I changed the size part of my post.

Lucic: 75 professional fights
Komisarek: 20 professional fights

Brashear - Absolute hugfest
Godard- Godard turtled, smart move, I dont think he got a fighting major
Andre Roy- Everyone knows Roy is a fake heavy weight
Neil- Hugging match

There is an experience difference.

[AllHailKingDJ]

Originally Posted by Alexifighter1

I changed the size part of my post.

Lucic: 75 professional fights
Komisarek: 20 professional fights

Brashear - Absolute hugfest
Godard- Godard turtled, smart move, I dont think he got a fighting major
Andre Roy- Everyone knows Roy is a fake heavy weight
Neil- Hugging match

There is an experience difference.

Yes, there's an experience difference but Komisarek is still 240 pounds, has fought several tough dudes and is capable of fighting his own battles. Hell, he was the one who asked Lucic to go this time and was plenty willing to fight---it's not like Lucic picked on the guy and took an instigator to beat his ass.

The Habs, the media and their fans are being ridiculous with this Lucic obsession. He fought probably your 2nd toughest player that's in his weight class who had a rivalry with Lucic and challenged him. It's pretty laughable they are putting Laraque out on the 1st line to stalk him like he beat up Saku Koivu or some defenseless *****. Komisarek isn't a wimp and he doesn't need BGL to fight his battles.

[Alexifighter1]

Originally Posted by AllHailKingDJ

Yes, there's an experience difference but Komisarek is still 240 pounds, has fought several tough dudes and is capable of fighting his own battles. Hell, he was the one who asked Lucic to go this time and was plenty willing to fight---it's not like Lucic picked on the guy and took an instigator to beat his ass.

The Habs, the media and their fans are being ridiculous with this Lucic obsession. He fought probably your 2nd toughest player that's in his weight class who had a rivalry with Lucic and challenged him. It's pretty laughable they are putting Laraque out on the 1st line to stalk him like he beat up Saku Koivu or some defenseless *****. Komisarek isn't a wimp and he doesn't need BGL to fight his battles.

Yeah, they are a bit obsessed, im sure the other side would be if Komisarek beat him and showboated.

Even your side of the argument backs up what im saying though.. if somebody like Komisarek will fight heavies, why shouldn't Lucic??

Give it time, the season is long..

[AllHailKingDJ]

Originally Posted by Alexifighter1

Yeah, they are a bit obsessed, im sure the other side would be if Komisarek beat him and showboated.

Even your side of the argument backs up what im saying though.. if somebody like Komisarek will fight heavies, why shouldn't Lucic??

Give it time, the season is long..

Lucic has fought heavies: Ivanans, Brookbank and Erskine and those fights showed that Lucic isn't some star heavyweight who belongs fighting all heavyweights. He lost to all 3 (edit: upon review, the Brookbank fight was a hugfest draw)...he's still just a top middleweight who can move up and fight heavyweights on occasion, which he does.

If your question is why shouldn't he fight Laraque: he shouldn't because his coach ordered him not to for starters.

Secondly, he's just not on the level of a Laraque yet. Maybe he will be eventually, but when he feels like going up a weight class, he should stick to guys like Erskine, Brookbank, Ivanans still and not Boogaard, Laraque, Brashear, etc.

Thirdly, he's the Bruins 1st line left wing. It's not his job to fight the heavyweights, that's Shawn Thornton's. If there's a cheap hit or if Lucic wants to fight a top heavyweight just to test out how much his fighting has improved, I'm all for it but he's not obligated to at all.

[Alexifighter1]

Originally Posted by AllHailKingDJ

Lucic has fought heavies: Ivanans, Brookbank and Erskine and those fights showed that Lucic isn't some star heavyweight who belongs fighting all heavyweights. He lost to all 3 (edit: upon review, the Brookbank fight was a hugfest draw)...he's still just a top middleweight who can move up and fight heavyweights on occasion, which he does.

If your question is why shouldn't he fight Laraque: he shouldn't because his coach ordered him not to for starters.

Secondly, he's just not on the level of a Laraque yet. Maybe he will be eventually, but when he feels like going up a weight class, he should stick to guys like Erskine, Brookbank, Ivanans still and not Boogaard, Laraque, Brashear, etc.

Thirdly, he's the Bruins 1st line left wing. It's not his job to fight the heavyweights, that's Shawn Thornton's. If there's a cheap hit or if Lucic wants to fight a top heavyweight just to test out how much his fighting has improved, I'm all for it but he's not obligated to at all.

Fair enough.

I'm just tired, whatever.

Good game

[hockeybooks]

Originally Posted by hockeybooks

looch might be under coach's orders, even

Originally Posted by AllHailKingDJ

Claude Julien also just admitted that he had a no fighting Laraque order on Lucic tonight...so you can't really expect Lucic to go against his coaches orders.


"He's probably the toughest guy in the league, and I know Georges Laraque was [goading Lucic] because he was told to. Georges is not that type of guy and he respects the young kids and knows what that is all about," said Julien. I told him not to fight, and if you were wondering...it was me.
For us I think Lucic is a good player

this fight will happen. Milian never dodged the heavies in the Dub , and BGL will get his chance

as pointed out by B's fans here , Looch is just 20. where were BGL and Brash playing at 20?

and if coach julien decided his kid deserves hometown advantage , that's another example of the B's looking long term for Lucic.

as far as my comment about who had more to gain or lose ,
i meant it about momentum and giving your team a lift.

If BGL had beaten Looch, the Bell Centre woulda went nuts, giving the Habs a lift

for the record, i am a Lucic fan, not a bruins supporter, the habs are my second team

[brandonh19]

Originally Posted by AllHailKingDJ

Thirdly, he's the Bruins 1st line left wing. It's not his job to fight the heavyweights, that's Shawn Thornton's. If there's a cheap hit or if Lucic wants to fight a top heavyweight just to test out how much his fighting has improved, I'm all for it but he's not obligated to at all.

If its not his job why did all last year he go looking for it, if its not his job why does he sell himself as some huge tough guy that can take anyone on, with the way he runs around on the ice, when Neely did it he didnt just run around when Neely did it he had respect about what he did and Neely was a first line guy. Lucic showd ZERO respect after his fight with komisarek there is a code of honor in fighting and part of that code in answering the bell Komisarek did it when he fought Lucic, a better fighter weight dosent mean all that much in a hockey fight dont know if you know that or not. It Lucic's turn to man up and answer the bell its as simple as that. And before you get on me for throwin Neelys name aroudn a lot of people compare Lucic as the second coming....