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Could be intresting in the long run..
I think if Butterbean is under 300lbs he is going to do quite well. I remember back yonder Butterbean fought Lance Gunn who won a WWF "shoot" tourney. KOd him in about 10 seconds. These guys have skills unlike lance gunn, but Butterbean will hurt this little guy bad imo. I dont know that a 155lbs guy could choke out or armbar a guy Butterbeans size if he was freely given the hold. Butterbean is a fat bastard, he could get tired, but with his ring expierience that will likely take at least 3 minutes no matter how poorly conditioned. Id like to see him fight real opposition.
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I don't think a 155lbs guy can sink the choke deep for long on a guy like Butterbean. No way he works an arm bar, I remember K Monday curling J Lewis out of an armbar and they were both the same size.
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Certainly more skills required than western boxing. Nobody knows the closed hand strike better than a western boxer[but then that and footwork is their game].Iwould like to see Tyson entered,hopefully against Hoost.
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Butterbean will...
LOSE BADLY....I GUARANTEE IT...and ILL put my money where my mouth is on this one.Hell get choked out or arm/leg barred....Butterface needs to find another career...like maybe doing weightwatcher commercials... LOL
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Sudo won by heal hook at 41 seconds of the second round.
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Very surprised Sudo won. I addressed the arm bar/choke stuff because I didn't think there was anyway Sudo could be effective with them no matter what the rules. But when I first considered the question of Butterbean being in the K1 I assumed it was pure striking as the previous K1s. Im guessing the heal hook is a standing submission, or did he catch a winded, bent over Bean with a heel kick? I actually thought BB was quick and powerful enough to do well at K1, but I really want to see Botha pursue mma, or even Tyson. Id prefer Botha, or a current top 10 hwt to see how the striking mmas do against a known quanity hwt boxer.
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Vic- How did Butterbean do? I know he lost but was he totally outclassed, did he get any good shots in???
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American fighter Butterbean brought a 100 kg weight advantage into the ring against opponent Genki Sudo of Japan. At the pre-event press conference, Butterbean said the match would be "brute strength against skill." Replied Sudo, "I am an expert in MMA, I'll show everyone that skill is greater than power."Also from the same card, Francois Botha lost for the second straight time under K-1 rules, to Yusuke Fujimoto by decision. Not very close either. His first loss was to Cyril Abidi by decision in early December. He was winning that fight when he was knocked down by a kick in the third, enough to change the decision. Mike Tyson was a guest announcer for this card, broadcasting from Hawaii. |
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After reading the description of this fight, I really want to see it. Im thinking it could have been a 'work'. This sort of fix happen all the time in Japan, and the absurd professional wrestling tactic of bouncing off the ropes scream fix.
Gygax I saw the Botha-Adibi fight, and Abdibi pussed out. Botha struck him while he was on the ground and was DQed in the first. Adbibi landed nothing, looked terrified, and claimed he couldn't continue. How did Botha lose to Fuji? Ceehound your opinion of Tyson morals mean nothing, people will still pay to watch him fight.
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I am waiting for the tape of this latest event, but I've read a bunch of descriptions from a few forums which all say Fuji dominated the fight with kicks. He also knocked Botha down in the third with a left hook. Here's Sherdog's take. Botha had taken a lot of punishment from Abidi's low kicks at the GP Final on Dec 12th, and here he tried to close the distance faster, coming in to work hooks and uppercuts. Fujimoto did get some low kicks in, and from the second threw more kicks to the body and up toward the head. Botha's punches, meanwhile, were just not connecting.Here's Botha's MMA career card Francois "The White Buffalo" Botha 0-3-0 K-1 - Premium 2003 Dynamite December 31, 2003 Loss Yusuke Fujimoto 3:00 3R, Decision (Unanimous) K-1 - World Grand Prix 2003 Final December 6, 2003 Loss Cyril Abidi 3:00 3R, Decision (Unanimous) K-1 - World Grand Prix 2003 Opening Round October 11, 2003 Loss Cyril Abidi 1R, DQ (Punch on the Ground) I would love to see Tyson in one of these type events. Washed up as a boxer, he has the right mentality and natural skill to work inside the kicks, yet avoid a clinch using inside punching. Last edited by Gygax; 01-05-2004 at 08:35 AM. |
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