Tebow: I'm AGAINST HIM for the rest of his career

[Webby1517]

Originally Posted by Webby1517

on a lighter note: Tebow should be a back or TE. He can make it in this league but not at QB. But saying that I think the broncos will win so back to the tebow wins.

big question is if he's winning as a QB then why not?

I love saying this. I told you so.

Tebow is a winner.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by chilly666

have you missed the last three pages?? he's still bad and that has not changed. learn to read before typing up crap because you are incompetent of reading thru and realizing that the topic changed to this debate.

He's esentially a first year QB and he's led his team to the playoffs and then some. Should they cut him and bring back orten? Your making a massive fool of yourself as my esteemed colleague Redtown has pointed out.

Originally Posted by BobNystromOwnsU

Catholics are different than Born Again Christians. Especially as people, and not as a group.

If he was an atheist and was talking about that, I would stick up for him too. It's america, it's what we were founded on.

But I guess it's okay to cheer for aover a guy who talks about God. That $hit still kills me.

I dont care either way. Rapist/Christian same thing in my book. It doesnt matter to me. As long as they can throw the pigskin they can anally rape my grandma while singing the praises of Jesus.

[flex_buff_chest]

Originally Posted by chilly666

really??? like bigjack said, you do it quietly to yourself and be respectful of others who are not your religion or hell, don't believe in religion.

i've been at friends' houses for dinner in which they pray, i don't. though i don't say anything as im in their house and are respecting their beliefs and would not want them to change for me in the privacy of their own home. but to do it on the field and in press conferences, is just plain ignorant and disrespectful. answer the damn questions from the media and leave the preaching for when you get home or when you're at church.

Is it any different then you coming on this site and spouting YOUR views? If you are all about people keeping their views to themselves, shouldn't you stop posting? I mean, I think LOT'S of things but I don't go around saying them to everyone......

Worst case? You stop getting your ass handed to you by a bunch of mediocre posters (mostly talking about myself here).

We understand what you are saying. His stats aren't good! We can see that, it's obvious..but he wins and in the NFL thats what counts.

[chilly666]

my views?? you're gonna compare religious views to comments on here? you're an idiot for that one fbc.

[BrianTheAdsFan]

Tebow's arm is like a scud missile launcher. You just never know where the hell it's going. I'm also very surprised that submarine windup of his hasn't cost him with pass rushers creating more fumbles.

I also think that once defenses figure out that containing him from going left is his kryptonite, he'll have a QB rating of about 10...

[caps87]

Originally Posted by chilly666

2 for 8 against the chiefs
started 3 for 19 vs the bears (broncos were handed the game bu marion barber)
13 for 29 vs the bills
11 for 22 vs the patriots who are one of the two worst pass defenses in the league
6 for 22 vs the chiefs


you seriously can't tell me that he doesn't suck seeing that crap for stats. any other qb would be benched, but because the broncos have no backbone, they won't do it because he is god...**** that excuse.

Backbone gets the Broncos a better draft pick and another disappointing season. Ill take the playoffs and an upset win against the defending AFC champs anyday.

Originally Posted by chilly666

um no not even close...i hate him because he has done nothing to warrant all the attention he receives along with the media making him out to be the best player in the league when he is nowhere close. anybody who watches a game involving him can see he sucks at throwing, is bad at reading defenses and has an option offense being run for him because he can't run a regular, "normal" offense like most teams.

to make that statement about rodgers not being ball-sucked, makes no sense because as a fellow hawks fan, you should know where i stand my teams/players being ball-sucked by the media even when they deserve it.

The Broncos went 8-4 with him as a starter, won the division (yeah they fell ass backwards, but the end justifies the means), and took down one of the best teams in the league, and deservedly so. No way they deserved to lose that game.

The whole world knows his passing abilities are limited. He misses open guys, throws wounded ducks, and isnt running a pro style offense, although Im sure Demariyus Thomas and Ike Taylor will both agree he throws a pretty good deep ball. But the whole world knows that he's far from a good passer. But theres no stats, no analysis for the intangible stuff he brings. His teammates love him, they believe in him, and the whole team played a hell of a lot better under him than Orton. The same exact team won with him, even with his marginal passing abilities. He somehow brings out the best in those guys. And in a year where my team, the Redskins, rolled through the year with their thumbs up their asses again, it was nice havin someone to root for. He's an underdog, a guy everyone said would fail, and somehow, hes in the divisional round of the playoffs. He gave people something to watch and go "are you f*cking kidding me?" And watching how angry his haters get when he succeeds is pretty amusing too.

Yeah the religion stuff is a bit in your face, but Id rather deal with that in a post game interview than some gat packin derelict talk about how great he is. And the league is full of those guys. The whole thing where the media makes sure they never miss him taking a knee isnt his fault. They've blown this up. But its like fighting in hockey- you dont like it, dont watch it.

[thekidd21]

How does Tebow shove his religion onto people? All he does is play QB to the best of his abilities, thanks God for it and says he promises to keep improving.

Broncos have been the most exciting team since Tebow has taken the reigns.

This team wants Tebow at QB, the proof is by how everyone on the team has elevated thier play since he became the starter.

He is a winner and what better way to spread his faith by showing people that by believing and doing good things will get you rewarded in the end.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by flex_buff_chest

HAHAHAHHAHHAHAH, Catholics and being humble now THAT would be a miracle.

On a serious note I do agree with you, I think these things should be kept to oneself, but he doesn't, it's not really an issue. Turn it off.

It's not like I'm not gonna watch him play but I'm just saying that watching his press conference on ESPN last evening was somewhat revolting.
I agree that the world isn't gonna end!

[29th_Candidate]

Bigjack, Chilly, I don't get what your problem is with Tebow.

He's not trying to convert YOU to Christianity...He's just expressing himself. Big deal.

There are some nudnicks out there who openly express their belief that Obama isn't an incompetent, Constitution-flouting, Socialist imbecile. If they feel they have a vested interest in showing the world what fools they are, then far be it from me, you or anyone else to stand in their way.

Their freedom of speech and expression is your freedom of speech and expression...It's a "one size fits all" proposition. If he doesn't have the right to publicly express his belief in God, then you don't have the right to publicly criticize his public expression of his belief in God.

[chilly666]

??? there are certain expressions that should be kept private and that is one of them, especially during postgame press conferences. you wanna pray, knock your ****ing self out, but stop preaching during interviews saying that god has given me my ability to do this and do that. that to me is forcing the issue, especially when you have people you aren't religious.

there is a certain level of respect that you need to have with certain things in life, this to me is one of those big things for many, a many reasons.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by chilly666

??? there are certain expressions that should be kept private. . .

Who gets to choose which expressions should be kept private; which not? Who would you give the power to censor your communication based on his/her own personal discretion?

[caps87]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Who gets to choose which expressions should be kept private; which not? Who would you give the power to censor your communication based on his/her own personal discretion?

Everyone has that power. Its called a mute button.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Bigjack, Chilly, I don't get what your problem is with Tebow.

He's not trying to convert YOU to Christianity...He's just expressing himself. Big deal.

There are some nudnicks out there who openly express their belief that Obama isn't an incompetent, Constitution-flouting, Socialist imbecile. If they feel they have a vested interest in showing the world what fools they are, then far be it from me, you or anyone else to stand in their way.

Their freedom of speech and expression is your freedom of speech and expression...It's a "one size fits all" proposition. If he doesn't have the right to publicly express his belief in God, then you don't have the right to publicly criticize his public expression of his belief in God.

I don't get why he's obnoxious to be talking religion during a football press conference and it's self promotion. Why isn't he humble and quiet and thanks god by himself?

He is a marketing genius. Look at all the publicity that he gets with his act. If he was just a quiet guy and acted humble and quiet, he probably wouldn't even be on an NFL team but by presenting himself as some great human, he gets all kinds of attention and self promotion.

He's no different than the guy who is doing the funky chicken in the end zone after he scores. Score the touchdown and hand the ball to the referee quietly. Mark Bavaro used to score and give a brief kneedown and then hand the ball to the referee. He would say a quiet prayer and that was it. No self promotion and he never talked about it.
Why can't Tebow act like Mark Bavaro did?
Because he's a self promoter and he knows it!

[chilly666]

having respect for others who may not agree with your opinions or beliefs should be enough to decide on what should be kept private or made public...especially when it's a "high-profile" person or athlete.

speaking of god and praying every ten seconds on a football field or in an interview is not needed.

[caps87]

Originally Posted by bigjack

I don't get why he's obnoxious to be talking religion during a football press conference and it's self promotion. Why isn't he humble and quiet and thanks god by himself?

He is a marketing genius. Look at all the publicity that he gets with his act. If he was just a quiet guy and acted humble and quiet, he probably wouldn't even be on an NFL team but by presenting himself as some great human, he gets all kinds of attention and self promotion.

He's no different than the guy who is doing the funky chicken in the end zone after he scores. Score the touchdown and hand the ball to the referee quietly. Mark Bavaro used to score and give a brief kneedown and then hand the ball to the referee. He would say a quiet prayer and that was it. No self promotion and he never talked about it.
Why can't Tebow act like Mark Bavaro did?
Because he's a self promoter and he knows it!

You really think he does all that just for the attention?