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One of the best ever who only got a chance to prove his talents because he paid millions to get away with murder.

Sounds like a great movie.
Sounds like that failed ESPN show. Gamebreakers or whatever it was called...
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Ray Lewis great LB, terrible person. When the defense went to a 3-4 his stats went down. Not as versatile as some claim him to be.

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i'd never heard of the murders till now,what was the story there?
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The things he said about his announcment were funny.
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i'd never heard of the murders till now,what was the story there?
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Ray Lewis The prosecution's case against Lewis suffered setbacks when key witnesses provided conflicting testimony. AP

ATLANTA (CNNSI.com) -- A judge Monday approved a deal allowing Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis to avoid murder charges and jail time by pleading guilty to a misdemeanor and testifying against two co-defendants.

Lewis pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and Superior Court Judge Alice D. Bonner sentenced Lewis to 12 months' probation, the maximum sentence for a first-time offender. Under the terms of the sentence, Lewis can not use drugs or alcohol during the duration of the probation.
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The way you guys tell it, Ray Lewis is a convicted murderer. If you guys all saw him murder somebody, probably should have testified.

Who the **** cares if he stood trial and wasn't convicted for murder? Outside of that allegation I don't think I've ever heard anything but great things about Ray Lewis as a person.

I also personally think he is the best Defensive player of all time, and I'll miss watching him every week. Also, before you go claiming bias, I've been a Fins fan since I was little. I just think the guys a hell of a football player and a great leader who plays with passion and intensity. If you don't like that, you're watching the wrong sport gents.
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i'd never heard of the murders till now,what was the story there?
its not always that simple but it seems to me that he paid to silence the families of the 2 killed guys
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:16 AM
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Easily one of the best, if not the best LB to ever play the game. I leave it at that though. Sure he was exciting to watch, and being a Pittsburgh fan he always added to the heated rivalry between the two teams, but I've always had a huge dislike for him. Partly because I am a Steelers fans, but mostly because he got away with murder simply because he has $$$.

He's one guy who has seemed to get a free pass from anybody involved in sports media. Other guys slip up and seem to be reminded of their miscues for years to come, whereas ESPN and other networks seem to have Ray Lewis on some sort of godly status. The guy is a POS, always will be, yet somehow seems to stay in the positive light with the media.
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Who the **** cares if he stood trial and wasn't convicted for murder? Outside of that allegation I don't think I've ever heard anything but great things about Ray Lewis as a person.
He got his charge reduced to a misdemeanor for obstruction of justice, in exchange for ratting on the other two guys. The case was dropped because all the evidence was destroyed (where's his white suit?). If he is innocent, then why did he settle out of court with the families of the guys that were murdered? To me that proves some sort of guilt. You must have better faith in the American judicial system than I do.

He was a great LB, I can't deny that. I feel he should not have played another down of football after that night.
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I feel he should not have played another down of football after that night.
had he not been a superstar i think thats exactly what would have happened.
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The way you guys tell it, Ray Lewis is a convicted murderer. If you guys all saw him murder somebody, probably should have testified.

Who the **** cares if he stood trial and wasn't convicted for murder? Outside of that allegation I don't think I've ever heard anything but great things about Ray Lewis as a person.I also personally think he is the best Defensive player of all time, and I'll miss watching him every week. Also, before you go claiming bias, I've been a Fins fan since I was little. I just think the guys a hell of a football player and a great leader who plays with passion and intensity. If you don't like that, you're watching the wrong sport gents.
By that stand point, OJ Simpson should be considered a great guy because he didn't get convicted of murder?

I can't support a player like this no matter what his persona was on the field.
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The way you guys tell it, Ray Lewis is a convicted murderer. If you guys all saw him murder somebody, probably should have testified.

Who the **** cares if he stood trial and wasn't convicted for murder? Outside of that allegation I don't think I've ever heard anything but great things about Ray Lewis as a person.

I also personally think he is the best Defensive player of all time, and I'll miss watching him every week. Also, before you go claiming bias, I've been a Fins fan since I was little. I just think the guys a hell of a football player and a great leader who plays with passion and intensity. If you don't like that, you're watching the wrong sport gents.
What about the fact that he testified against his 2 friends? Not sure where you grew up, but where I do that's called a RAT and RATS are the lowest form of human beings next to pedophiles.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:35 PM
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Ray Lewis great LB, terrible person. When the defense went to a 3-4 his stats went down. Not as versatile as some claim him to be.

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Ward is a bit of a diva, and wanted powdered and pampered by everyone in the organization. I have had a few run ins with him and he just comes across as way too cocky for his own good.

He also has done a lot of things that left a stain on his career, that include tax fraud, cheating, and money laundaring. He also called out Big Ben for not playing through a concussion which was moronic because he sat out with turf toe. Such a diva.
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What about the fact that he testified against his 2 friends? Not sure where you grew up, but where I do that's called a RAT and RATS are the lowest form of human beings next to pedophiles.
Oh so you would sooner go to jail for murder than give testimony against someone else? Great thinking.

I didn't say him not being convicted made him a great guy. I am just saying he was never charged with murder, yet you all claim to know he did it. What is the point in a trial then?

Either way, no matter what you think about the guy, he is a beast of a football player and one of the best all time.
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how do you all know that he "got away with murder?" none of you were there. kind of a ridiculous thing to say. it's probably more likely that he initially covered for his friends' terrible act. sounds crazy but i'm sure a lot of us would do the same for a good friend in the heat of the moment. i will in no way condone his actions but it is no where near paying to get away with murder.

regardless of what you may think of him as a person, IMO ray lewis is the most consistently fierce competitor i have seen play any professional sport in my lifetime. his intensity level is always sky high and he plays at nothing but 100%. if you view his career from purely an effort involved in performance standpoint, there is no comparison to any other athlete IMO.
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