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Old 08-25-2004, 02:21 PM
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You're absolutely right I'm clueless about football because I don't think Brian Westbrook is one of the top two running backs in the league. Maybe you should understand the difference between All-pro and Pro-bowl "football expert". There are other teams outside Philly and just to let you know there is a back in your own division named Clinton Portis who is better than your boy Brian Westbrook. All he did was rush for 1591 yards and avg 5.5 yards per carry "football expert". Don't give me that crap about him splitting time either because if he was such a "Complete All-Pro back" he wouldn't split time with Buckhalter. Last time I checked the real All-pro running backs like Clinton Portis, Jamal Lewis, Priest Holmes, and LaDainian Tomlinson don't split time in the back field. But homers like you don't see that and would probably take Brian Westbrook over all of them. I bet you'd take him over Jim Brown. What a joke.
I can look up stats too off ESPN wonderboy. Would I take him over Portis? Oh yeah sure. LOL He isn't close to tha good. I would take about maybe 8-9 other backs over him as well. Now in terms of a playmaker there are only a few I would take over him. He is a playmaker. You as a Giants fan should know that. If he didn't take that kick back the Eagles would have been in serious trouble for the season. Because of his limited role his numbers suffered. His production didn't.
He got hurt in week 14 with a freakish arm injury so don't go an give me this injury prone BS. His legs are just fine.

Oh please learn to read! Where in the world did I say he is one of the best two backs in the NFL? All-Pro DOES NOT MEAN THAT! Go back and stay in the Giants thread if you are going to make stuff up.
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Old 08-25-2004, 02:31 PM
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I can look up stats too off ESPN wonderboy. Would I take him over Portis? Oh yeah sure. LOL He isn't close to tha good. I would take about maybe 8-9 other backs over him as well. Now in terms of a playmaker there are only a few I would take over him. He is a playmaker. You as a Giants fan should know that. If he didn't take that kick back the Eagles would have been in serious trouble for the season. Because of his limited role his numbers suffered. His production didn't.
He got hurt in week 14 with a freakish arm injury so don't go an give me this injury prone BS. His legs are just fine.

Oh please learn to read! Where in the world did I say he is one of the best two backs in the NFL? All-Pro DOES NOT MEAN THAT! Go back and stay in the Giants thread if you are going to make stuff up.
You just proved my point you said he isn't top two RB's and he isn't. All Pro team look it up.
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Old 08-25-2004, 02:49 PM
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You just proved my point you said he isn't top two RB's and he isn't. All Pro team look it up.
The only thing you proved is you can understand what you read. Saying someone is an "all pro", "all star", "pro bowler" is the same thing unless you are point it out as fact or fiction. It is a way to explain what you think a guy can do. Again, learn to read....
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Old 08-25-2004, 02:58 PM
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The only thing you proved is you can understand what you read. Saying someone is an "all pro", "all star", "pro bowler" is the same thing unless you are point it out as fact or fiction. It is a way to explain what you think a guy can do. Again, learn to read....
He's not a Pro Bowler, All star or All Pro. By the way here are ten better backs than him.

Priest Holmes, Clinton Portis, LaDainian Tomilinson, Deuce McAlister, Ahman Green, Marshall Faulk, Jamal Lewis, Stephen Davis, Shawn Alexander, and Edgerin James.

You said top ten so tell me homer which one of these backs would you take him over and then I'll start to laugh.
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Old 08-25-2004, 03:06 PM
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He's not a Pro Bowler, All star or All Pro. By the way here are ten better backs than him.

Priest Holmes, Clinton Portis, LaDainian Tomilinson, Deuce McAlister, Ahman Green, Marshall Faulk, Jamal Lewis, Stephen Davis, Shawn Alexander, and Edgerin James.

You said top ten so tell me homer which one of these backs would you take him over and then I'll start to laugh.
All you do is come here to troll right? You are a sad man.

The first 5 there is no debate there. I would say none with Alexander nor Jewis (if not in jail). After that is where the debate starts. Faulk was the man. No doubt. I am not sure he is anymore though. The Rams must agree with taking Steven Jackson. Green would be in the top 5 if he could do one thing. Not fumble! He has amazing skills and still has great numbers but he puts the ball down way too much IMO to be considered great. I personally think James has lost a step since his injury. The trio of Peyton, Harrison, and Wayne helped him out a lot IMO. I think he is slowing down already. Davis? A one trick pony. Sure he does his trick well but this is the guy I would not doubt put Westbrook in front of. He can only run between the tackles (great at that BTW), can't catch the ball, and is injury prone.

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Old 08-25-2004, 07:46 PM
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Regardless if you get another RB, You better hope and pray those corners hold up. To me it made no sense at all spending money on Kearse when you have 2 unproven CB's in your secondary. Just my 2 cents.
Damn! That might be the most perfect post in the history of HF.com.

Can someone tell me why The Eagles went out and got this guy. They had the best Defensive Back feild and the NFL.

I just don't understand it.
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:42 PM
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Damn! That might be the most perfect post in the history of HF.com.

Can someone tell me why The Eagles went out and got this guy. They had the best Defensive Back feild and the NFL.

I just don't understand it.
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The young cornerbacks. There is an extreme misconception that Vincent and Taylor will be missed. They didn't play often last year and Sheppard and Brown played most of the downs at corner. As did nickleback Rod Hood. Throw in a guy like 6'2" Matt Ware to cover some of the bigger guys and I think they are in good hands. Jim Johnson's hands to be exact. Another issue that involves this one is the pass rush. What makes a CB better? A pass rush. The Freak along with 1st round pick McDougle, and a guy who has Jason Taylor upside (finally healthy) in Derrick Burgess. This will make all the difference IMO.
Losing Kalu sucks but it only hurt depth. Those three guys alone if healthy will get around 30 sacks between them.
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This isnt the same Freak though who burst on the scene as a rookie, he's yet to match the sack production of his first year. He's been on a slow decline the past 5 years. Dont get me wrong its a nice addition, I just think corner is more important. I admit i didnt see every Eagles game last year but from what I saw Brown sucked. One of the games I saw he was just getting torched, cant remember which though.
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I like the eagles but have to agree its a risk going into the yr with Lito & brown as starters at corner.It will help having the safety's they have and if the freak can stay healthy a BIG if he will help too,but i dont see him helping the run def and thats the big ?? and i guess will decide if the eagles fail or finally breakthru.
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Old 08-25-2004, 11:56 PM
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I like the eagles but have to agree its a risk going into the yr with Lito & brown as starters at corner.It will help having the safety's they have and if the freak can stay healthy a BIG if he will help too,but i dont see him helping the run def and thats the big ?? and i guess will decide if the eagles fail or finally breakthru.
If the Eagles go the NFC Championship game again and lose... I really don't know what I would do with myself. The psychological damage would be extremely severe.
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Old 08-26-2004, 01:31 AM
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It's funny how the Flyers and Phils get ripped for keeping highly paid, fading yet proven veteran players over talented unproven young guns, and the Eagles get ripped for just the opposite.

Westbrook is a very, very talented guy. I don't care what label you want to put on that talent, the fact is he's good. Ask the Giants.
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It's funny how the Flyers and Phils get ripped for keeping highly paid, fading yet proven veteran players over talented unproven young guns, and the Eagles get ripped for just the opposite.

Westbrook is a very, very talented guy. I don't care what label you want to put on that talent, the fact is he's good. Ask the Giants.
Haha yea after Westbrook single-handedly beat them and saved our midnight green asses last season.
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Old 08-26-2004, 11:27 PM
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Anyone have info on Nate Wayne's injury?
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Old 08-26-2004, 11:30 PM
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I heard it's a hamstring strain.
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I heard it's a hamstring strain.
Philadelphia Eagles.com- On the injury front, Nate Wayne went down on the second defensive play from scrimmage with a left hamstring strain. The injury is not believed to be serious. Another injury note: Jermane Mayberry left the game with a left hamstring injury.
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