Nfl '12

[smashem]

Originally Posted by HordiBrusk29

Disagree on both accounts. That wasn't a holding penalty on Gronkowski. That said, the Patriots didn't deserve to win that game against AZ. They were lucky to even be in a situation where they could have won the game. And the Ravens got several favorable penalties last night too. Especially that pass interference call on McCourty late in the game. That was extremely weak. Arguably the worst call of the game which says a lot.

Well it seemed alot worse when they called a push off on Edelman when he got a first down, which would have put the pats on there 30 and up 13-0. I knew right then and there the pats where fuked, the refs wanted this game to be close, far and away the pats were the better team and if i were a Ravens fan i would not be to pumped up about the win, everyone is biitching about the pats D, which they would have given up 17 pts rather than 31. Oh well pats in a must win this weekend, 1-3 start will probably cost them a playoff spot in the end.

[BobNystromOwnsU]

The Packers have been getting calls for so long, I loved it. These replacements stink, but they don't care about Gay Bay and treating them right. I've never enjoyed anything that much. I'm still smiling. Holy crap, that was great.

Watching the media cry about how their beloved Packers got ripped off is going to make for one fun week. Rodgers sad face is better than Brady's. You notice how they're not crying about that PI call on the last drive where Woodson didn't turn around, face guarded and molested him? They don't care about that, just about poor, poor Gay Bay. I knew this was going to blow up, and i'm glad it blew up on them.

[JKidd]

Well, somebody finally outright lost thanks to a missed call by these refs.

I laugh because it's the Packers. But, in the same respect, I hang my head in shame that the NFL not agreeing to pay the real refs a small fraction of their massive pile of money has clearly affected the outcome of a game.

Oh well. Sad day for football, great day for a Vikings fan.

[pigfarmer]

Originally Posted by NJDevils17

My favorite part was when one ref was signaling touchdown while the other one was signaling for a touch back.

I never saw him signal for a touch back. I just heard the idiot announcers saying he did.

Anyways, I really have to come to the refs defense on this one. I turned on the game (early), and I see Rodgers getting his head spun around half-way by the facemask and these announcers are saying 'I guess thats a penalty'. Then Gruden's dumb ass on the next play (offensive holding) throws out a gem like 'I don't even know what is going on with all these penalties, its 15 yards one way, 10 the other'. I'll tell you what is going on, facemask, then holding. Shut up!

And how is that not simultaneous possesion? Both guys were on the ball. If people want something to complain about something how about complain about the defender going for an interception on a hail-mary. He deserves to have that ball caught for a touchdown.

[pigfarmer]

And what the hell is the deal with everyone saying this game had 'the strangest ending'. How is this strange?

[Baronking]

Originally Posted by pigfarmer

And what the hell is the deal with everyone saying this game had 'the strangest ending'. How is this strange?

I don't get it either. There are tons of games that end on controversial calls.

I guess because its replacement refs, its all of a sudden a bigger story than it should be

[Mr. Pink]

lol 3 of top 10 defenses in NFC West

[BobNystromOwnsU]

Originally Posted by Baronking

I don't get it either. There are tons of games that end on controversial calls.

I guess because its replacement refs, its all of a sudden a bigger story than it should be

It's Monday Night, It's on ESPN, it the Green bay packers against the team from the Northwest nobody cares about. Have you noticed how different ESPN and the NFL network act about this? it's like the difference in Fox and CNN?

The Sport's media has gone to hell.

[JKidd]

After watching it from something other than the gif on here (with reverse angle and other angles), here are my thoughts?

First, how about the missed offensive pass interference? Tate CLEARLY pushed #37 to his face.

Second, the fact Jenkins secures it against his body looks like an INT.

Third, Tate pretty much only secures it thanks to Jenkins having it - which negates the simultaneous possession... at least in my eyes.

The rule itself:
Item 5: Simultaneous Catch. If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball.

Here's a video with some extra angles, and IMO, clearly shows Tate only gaining possession after Jenkins essentially has it secured against his body and is on the way down.

Gold Tate Touchdown Bad Call Monday Night...

Better video:

Green Bay Packers @ Seattle Seahawks 9/24/12 -...

[chilly666]

as bad as the call was...it isn't even worth arguing about anymore. the packers got screwed and minus t.j. lang pretty much said the "correct" things after the game.

props to frank gore though for calling out goodell as well.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by chilly666

as bad as the call was...it isn't even worth arguing about anymore. the packers got screwed and minus t.j. lang pretty much said the "correct" things after the game.

props to frank gore though for calling out goodell as well.

I hope more players have the balls to come out against the NFL like Lang and Gore.

Also, Jennings should have just knocked the ball down. If he does, it's game over. ALWAYS knock the ball down. DON'T try to pad your stats. The quicker you create a dead ball, the better. With that many players battling, any other move just keeps the ball in the air longer.

[mikebflorida]

That was way beyond absurd and there is an obvious bias there, it can't be anything else.

For a grown man who can't see the play to look at those 2 players and signal a touchdown for Seattle can only mean 2 things- he had a bet on Seattle or he is an anti Green Bay fan.

The other fact that the other official has the better angle and signals something else is also a dead give away.

The NFL lost all credibility when they hired these guys(and girls)in the first place and all of the bad calls league wide this weekend just cements that.

No credibility at all.

Another case of cheap skate, hard ass owners not wanting to pay someone to do the best job. That NEVER would have happened if the real refs were working.

By the way, I am not a fan of either team, I do a football pool every week and this last pool was worth $245 to the winner and yes, the outcome was affected for one guy over another(not me, I won last week ).

It cost my dad $10,600.00 in winnings and he was lucky to break even as he had the Packers +3 in a teaser and would have won both his bets had the correct call been made and I'll bet it cost a lot of people a lot of money last night. Packers were a 3 point favorite and winning by 5 so the call changed a lot of people's fortunes.

It's not just about a football game.

Sadly, people won't do the right thing and boycott, they will keep watching and whine the whole time about shoddy officiating. It's like taking your car to a garage and having a blind man park it.

[blades29]

Originally Posted by chilly666

as bad as the call was...it isn't even worth arguing about anymore. the packers got screwed and minus t.j. lang pretty much said the "correct" things after the game.

props to frank gore though for calling out goodell as well.

I saw this too.

Both wallets might be lighter...

Bad/ missed calls aside, it was pretty frickin' entertaining TV! I was entertained, anyway...

[pigfarmer]

Originally Posted by jkidd

Third, Tate pretty much only secures it thanks to Jenkins having it - which negates the simultaneous possession... at least in my eyes.

The rule itself:
Item 5: Simultaneous Catch. If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball.

My question is can the defender have control while still in the air?

[lefthook1]

http://usat.ly/PjBdAk

That's a whole lot of angry gamblers. That figure is only legal bets FYI, imagine all the bookies in NY.

Vegas radio is non stop this morning