NCAA College Football 2012

[Baronking]

Originally Posted by pigfarmer

No one has played anyone. That is the problem. What college football really needs (I think) is to have an outside entity schedule non-conference games, and these games should be scheduled at most 2 years in advance. (I understand the complete unfeasibility of this).

I agree. It would be great if these power conferences could only schedule 1 cupcake before their conference schedule. I would rather have less undefeated teams and more clear results as to who is good and who isn't.

The problem is once a team loses twice, what are they really playing for anymore. I.E. USC. Now that they are essentially out of the national championship race, are they really going to be as fired up to play against Oregon this week?

My problem with the "SEC bias" is that a 9-7 SEC game with 4 completed passes by each quarterback, 10 punts, and 6 turnovers is a great defensive battle, where the same game in any other conference is ugly, terrible offensive football. I wish the sports media would call it like it is.

A lot should clear up in these next few weeks, but I think we will see a Alabama-ND national championship game.

[pigfarmer]

Originally Posted by Baronking

I agree. It would be great if these power conferences could only schedule 1 cupcake before their conference schedule. I would rather have less undefeated teams and more clear results as to who is good and who isn't.

See though, I think you are missing my idea...its not about conference games. You can play in your own conference every single game, and I still have no idea how to compare you to anyone else in the country. I want somehow to have those cupcake games eliminated (at least one) and some non-associated group decide on a year by year basis what your 1 or 2 out of conference games will be (based on say, last years performance/preseason rankings).

[chilly666]

preseason rankings can't be used as they are a complete and utter joke. having some committee make skeds isn't right either. there is no guarantee that those people are competent enough to make it fair for every team. the ncaa can't even control it.

also having a committee do scheduling takes away from schools like boise state showing who they really are because there is no guarantee that they'll get to play the "big boys" once a year to give them a boost in rankings and such. there is no fair way to do it. schools doing it is the best way possible because they built their own road to their destiny. putting it in the hands of the ncaa or a group of people doesn't mean it'll be done right or help in any way imo.

[Baronking]

Originally Posted by pigfarmer

See though, I think you are missing my idea...its not about conference games. You can play in your own conference every single game, and I still have no idea how to compare you to anyone else in the country. I want somehow to have those cupcake games eliminated (at least one) and some non-associated group decide on a year by year basis what your 1 or 2 out of conference games will be (based on say, last years performance/preseason rankings).

That's what I'm saying (kind of). Say you have 4 non-conference games. 1 could be against a cupcake. The other 3 need to at least be from a "top 50 team" (or whatever it may be). I don't think an outside committee needs to decide it, but I think there should be regulations on who you can schedule. Again this is all hypothetical because of money issues, but that would seem better.

[Mr. Pink]

only way college football would truly be interesting in terms of scheduling would be if they had a Top 20 league then tiered leagues descending downward with promotions and demotions each year like Euro Football. I can dream.

[pigfarmer]

I agree preseason rankings are a joke, but it is sorta like junior hockey, with so much turn over you really don't know what the hell you are talking about after the last season, so you have to speculate somewhat. Just saying that if the games were scheduled on a 1-2 year basis, instead of scheduling a team 6 years in advance you should get better match-ups, no?

The only reason I say an outside comittee is because if you leave it up to the schools they will try to get the easiest they can, mostly because of the current system where wins over crap teams means more than losing a close game to a real opponent.

[chilly666]

but is there a certain that a committee has the brains to figure it out without giving an advantage to one or two teams by giving and easier game over some other team....simple thing is, there is no simple way to solve this problem unless you take the top conferences and make one division and take the rest and make another division or make them FCS.

similar to euro soccer, but without the promotion/demotion though unless you're a team that's really bad and can't win so many game per season to keep up with the competition to make it equal for everyone.

[BobNystromOwnsU]

Originally Posted by pigfarmer

See though, I think you are missing my idea...its not about conference games. You can play in your own conference every single game, and I still have no idea how to compare you to anyone else in the country. I want somehow to have those cupcake games eliminated (at least one) and some non-associated group decide on a year by year basis what your 1 or 2 out of conference games will be (based on say, last years performance/preseason rankings).

As long as big bucks are flying around, the cupcake games are going nowhere.

[pigfarmer]

Originally Posted by BobNystromOwnsU

As long as big bucks are flying around, the cupcake games are going nowhere.

I think we all realize this.

Originally Posted by chilly666

but is there a certain that a committee has the brains to figure it out without giving an advantage to one or two teams by giving and easier game over some other team....simple thing is, there is no simple way to solve this problem unless you take the top conferences and make one division and take the rest and make another division or make them FCS.

similar to euro soccer, but without the promotion/demotion though unless you're a team that's really bad and can't win so many game per season to keep up with the competition to make it equal for everyone.

I guess I am just stuck in the NCAA football rut of having people pick things

I think another simple fix would be if the 'superconferences' were to happen. Then you could have, say, the 2 best from each conference in a playoff. Of course it would be good to integrate what you are saying with the mobility between tier1 and tier2, give schools something they can aim for.

[5 4 Fighting]

does anyone know of any websites where you can watch live streams of a game on pay per view?
Im trying to watch Tennessee vs Troy...much appreciated

[Baronking]

Originally Posted by 5 4 Fighting

does anyone know of any websites where you can watch live streams of a game on pay per view?
Im trying to watch Tennessee vs Troy...much appreciated

Its on ESPN3.com. Might be blacked out if you live in the area though.

[BobNystromOwnsU]

Looks like the Irish have returned to their ways.

[pigfarmer]

Originally Posted by BobNystromOwnsU

Looks like the Irish have returned to their ways.

So you're ready to join chilly now?

[Baronking]

Wow its just not meant to be for Pitt...you have to think ND will take it now.

[pigfarmer]

Also...jesus, I saw maybe 15 plays in that Fla/Mizzou game, and I must have seen the Mizzou QB overthrow on like 10 of them! If Mizzou has a QB I think that game goes by like 20 to Mizzou!