Joe Paterno dies

[PilotsFan]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

While I disagree with the posts of several of you, I appreciate the responses. I'm done discussing this. I am sure I am biased in portions of my thoughts, but arguing back and forth isn't going to get anywhere between us. Regardless, today I lost one of the classiest guys I have ever met in my entire life. Rest in peace Joe, I'll miss you.

DYB, I appriciate your loyalty to your alma mater and Joe but IMHO your view of the real victims in all of this is tainted. I'm sorry man, the real life knowledge of child molestation superseeds the football field and community accomplishments. Again, IMHO he doesnt get a "bye" for his history because of what happened to the kids.

That said, he was a great man for a lot of years on and off the field for Penn State. The only reason I feel bad for him is because after everything the man accomplished, all the years on the field and in the room, this is what his legacy will be. He worked all those years, accumilated quite a bit of wealth and his retirement will be nothing more than several weeks of defending his reputation...That's truly sad. He should have had several years travelling to exotic places and enjoying the many yrs of hard work... That's another sad part of this entire situation.

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

While I disagree with the posts of several of you, I appreciate the responses. I'm done discussing this. I am sure I am biased in portions of my thoughts, but arguing back and forth isn't going to get anywhere between us. Regardless, today I lost one of the classiest guys I have ever met in my entire life. Rest in peace Joe, I'll miss you.

A guy who helped cover up child rape is one of the "classiest" guys you've ever met? You must hang around some real dirty f*cking scumbags.

[Mike Tython]

LOL at all the people who would've done all the right things had they been in the situation. You all sound like Mark Wahlberg who said he would've single-handedly stop the hijackings on 9/11. Yeah, everyone and their brother, and certainly Paterno himself wished he'd done more. He reported it to his superiors and by all accounts Spanier or whatever his name was swept it under the rug. Should he have asked more? Yeah, probably. This **** goes on all over the country and sometimes people don't make the right choices to get it stopped. It's a shame, and I'm sure he would be the first to admit it. Throwing around the word enabler and other synonyms like that is totally ridiculous. He was a great football coach, helped tremendously as a philanthropist, and affected several lives in a positive manner. He wasn't the dirtball who raped the children, although people like to equate him as such. Rest in Peace, JoePa.

[nyislesfan45]

I guess PSU fans, alumni and students are really broken up about this.

The guy didn't go to the authorities after being informed that a member of his community was involved in the raping of children. How do you not call the cops? Going to an athletic director isn't the same as going to the police. If he heard a member of his family was being assaulted, I'm sure the police would've been his first call...

[nyislesfan45]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

LOL at all the people who would've done all the right things had they been in the situation. You all sound like Mark Wahlberg who said he would've single-handedly stop the hijackings on 9/11.

It's not stopping a major terrorist attack. If you are made aware that a crime of this magnitude is being committed, common sense would say to call the police.

It's a shame, and I'm sure he would be the first to admit it. Throwing around the word enabler and other synonyms like that is totally ridiculous.

Definition of enabler for you: one that enables another to achieve an end; especially : one who enables another to persist in self-destructive behavior (as substance abuse) by providing excuses or by making it possible to avoid the consequences of such behavior

[dodge8954]

why do people think this man was something great? he coached there for what 40+ years? i guess that means he must of won a dozen national championship titles......o wait nevermind he won 2. sh1t, urban myers won 2 in like 5 years with FL. The last 10 years of his career he was just some old fuk on the sidelines.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Gary Schultz was one of his immediate superiors.

And, how the f*ck would I know what Jerry was doing? He lived there. He has lived there for 30 some years. Blame the PSUPD for not doing anything, or the DA at the time, or the PA State Police. You do realize the PSU campus holds about 50,000 students, and there is a surrounding town, right? Do you think Paterno was the King , or Chancellor, or President or something and was the end all? It is a public campus, a campus in the middle of absolute no where. Do you think Joe could have single handedly kicked Jerry out of town?

actually he was in essence. He was a person with real power. He could have done something much more then he did.

this is the bottom line guys like you just cant understand: He could have done much more then report what he was told to the "authorities". Personally most people would have been outraged over what happened by one of your subordinate associates. Most people would have followed up and made sure that person was never working in that capacity again. SOME people would have been so outraged they would have taken on Sandusky himself.

Why didnt Joe do that? Because he was so caught up in the institution, the role he played in the institution and the beautiful image they had going on. That makes him less real to me, less genuine and far less then any phoney image that is portrayed and bought by suckers like you.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

LOL at all the people who would've done all the right things had they been in the situation. You all sound like Mark Wahlberg who said he would've single-handedly stop the hijackings on 9/11. Yeah, everyone and their brother, and certainly Paterno himself wished he'd done more. He reported it to his superiors and by all accounts Spanier or whatever his name was swept it under the rug. Should he have asked more? Yeah, probably. This **** goes on all over the country and sometimes people don't make the right choices to get it stopped. It's a shame, and I'm sure he would be the first to admit it. Throwing around the word enabler and other synonyms like that is totally ridiculous. He was a great football coach, helped tremendously as a philanthropist, and affected several lives in a positive manner. He wasn't the dirtball who raped the children, although people like to equate him as such. Rest in Peace, JoePa.

you're a sad human being. You really are.

[pigfarmer]

Originally Posted by dodge8954

why do people think this man was something great? he coached there for what 40+ years? i guess that means he must of won a dozen national championship titles......o wait nevermind he won 2. sh1t, urban myers won 2 in like 5 years with FL. The last 10 years of his career he was just some old fuk on the sidelines.

This is what I've always thought about the guy. They always throw out how many wins he has, etc. Haha, it only took him like 6 decades to get that many wins.

[Mike Tython]

Originally Posted by canuck2

you're a sad human being. You really are.

And I assume you know EXACTLY what went on behind the scenes?

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

And I assume you know EXACTLY what went on behind the scenes?

What the fuk does that have to do with anything. do you ever know EXACTLY what went on? we can only go by what's reported. Joe did confirm much about what happened in terms of reporting the incident. And the fact he did little after that. I guess that's okay by you because just reporting the fact that your associate subordinate just ass raped a child is good enough?

and you say "this stuff happens in America all the time". So you've become so insensitized to it that it's kinda like a minor car accident.

Fuk that. raping a child should provoke outrage. At the very least a far greater response then dirt bag joe pa gave.

You sound like a cluess MOFO.

[blades29]

RIP Coach Paterno.
Despite what happened, he was a damn good coach.

[Flyers2001]

Only Joe knows if he knew the truth or not.

Joe's mistake was that he didn't care enough to find out the truth one way or the other. He should of found out and took control of the situation. Thats his demise and his firing was well deserved, IMO.

Its ashame he did so much for the school and many students. His contributions are still on-going.

As a quiet PSU alum, I can respect what Joe has done for the university as well as acknowledge and hold him to his mistakes.

RIP JoePA