Joe Paterno dies

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

We Are...Ped State!!!...still proud.

[D Y B FLYERS]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

Which cost "him" greatly? What about what it cost those little boys? You know, the ones getting anal raped under Joe's watch? I guess they don't matter. Poor Joe Paterno.

Originally Posted by ewen21

This is where you are a clown. His demise was more than warranted. He sheltered Sandusky, and for that he was fired. Also, it is not like he made "a mistake"...this went on and on for a bunch of years. We aren't talking about an isolated incident.

BO,..the kids do matter. Where have I ever said they didn't? The children obviously matter the most out of the entire situation, but this thread isn't about them. It was about Joe's death. These kids weren't raped under Joe's 'watch'.

Ewen, thanks for the usual insult.
I never denied his firing wasn't warranted, but his demise, in my opinion, was. How do you get that he sheltered Sandusky. Sandusky resigned in 1999, more than 3 years before Joe was told of the incident that Mike McQueary witnessed. And yes, we are talking about an isolated incident when it refers to Joe. He was only ever told of one incident.

[CubsJunkie]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

CJ...you are an idiot. He 'helped' ruin the lives of young boys? No, he did not. He reported what he was told. He should have did more than what he did, but to say he 'helped' is ludicrous. You're a jerkoff for making such a statement. By your statements, you obviously have no idea what Joe did for Penn State, and people in PA in general.

He helped because he knew what Sandusky was doing to these boys on school premises even though he was retired and had no business being on school property and thought he did enough by telling the athletic director, even though Sandusky was still wandering around the university well after he told his superior. He just shrugged his shoulders about the whole thing, not caring about potential victims. Again, things he did for a stupid college are meaningless and don't make up for the fact that he covered up child rape for years, which a few incidents happened on the college that he "did so much for." You even say that he should have done more to stop that bastard; why do you continue to stand up for the guy?

[D Y B FLYERS]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

We Are...Ped State!!!...still proud.

You go from getting so heated, right back to making light of the situation.

I can't change your opinion, or your mocking of my signature. Look at some of my recent posts, I've always been a Penn State fan and Penn State is part of me, not like I think that should have any meaning to you, just wanted to say so......I might be just as biased for Joe as you are biased against Joe, so we can agree to disagree. I just do not think Joe was hiding the fact as much as you seem to think.

[D Y B FLYERS]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

We Are...Ped State!!!...still proud.

Originally Posted by CubsJunkie

He helped because he knew what Sandusky was doing to these boys on school premises even though he was retired and had no business being on school property and thought he did enough by telling the athletic director, even though Sandusky was still wandering around the university well after he told his superior. He just shrugged his shoulders about the whole thing, not caring about potential victims. Again, things he did for a stupid college are meaningless and don't make up for the fact that he covered up child rape for years, which a few incidents happened on the college that he "did so much for." You even say that he should have done more to stop that bastard; why do you continue to stand up for the guy?

Jesus...GARY SCHULTZ WAS THE HEAD OF THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. Who would you have liked him to go to?

[NickDoh]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Jesus...GARY SCHULTZ WAS THE HEAD OF THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. Who would you have liked him to go to?

Another person, anybody, after the 50th time Mr. Pedo showed up on campus again. And again.

[trey383]

real police??

[CubsJunkie]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Jesus Christ...GARY SCHULTZ WAS THE HEAD OF THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. Who would you have liked him to go to?

I don't know where you're getting that name from. In his most recent interview, not once does he mention going to any police figure, but simply saying he "went to his superiors."

A few quotes in the article:

Paterno reported the incident to the athletic director, but somehow the information stopped there.

"I didn't know exactly how to handle it and I was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was," Paterno told The Washington Post. "So I backed away and turned it over to some other people, people I thought would have a little more expertise than I did. It didn't work out that way."

Paterno said he was confused by what McQueary told him, who testified that he had been less graphic in his description of the act to the then 75-year-old coach. "You know, he didn't want to get specific," Paterno told The Washington Post. "And to be frank with you I don't know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man."

Paterno said he waited a day after McQueary told him about what he saw because he wanted to make sure he knew what he was doing. "And then I called my superiors and I said, 'Hey, we got a problem, I think. Would you guys look into it?' 'Cause I didn't know, you know," Paterno told The Washington Post. "We never had, until that point, 58 years I think, I never had to deal with something like that. And I didn't feel adequate."

Rest of the article:http://www.kold.com/story/16521952/j...ndusky-scandal

Now answer my questions. What was Sandusky doing on the campus for years after he was retired and multiple people knew about it and the raping incident? Why do you continue to defend Paterno even though YOU said he should have done more?

[D Y B FLYERS]

Originally Posted by trey383

real police??

Apparently you can't read. PSUPD is real police. They hold all jurisdiction over the entire PSU University Park Campus. University Park has it's own zip code, and post office. PSUPD is larger than the surrounding departments.

[D Y B FLYERS]

Originally Posted by CubsJunkie

I don't know where you're getting that name from. In his most recent interview, not once does he mention going to any police figure, but simply saying he "went to his superiors."

A few quotes in the article:


Rest of the article:http://www.kold.com/story/16521952/j...ndusky-scandal

Now answer my questions. What was Sandusky doing on the campus for years after he was retired and multiple people knew about it and the raping incident? Why do you continue to defend Paterno even though YOU said he should have done more?

Gary Schultz was one of his immediate superiors.

And, how the f*ck would I know what Jerry was doing? He lived there. He has lived there for 30 some years. Blame the PSUPD for not doing anything, or the DA at the time, or the PA State Police. You do realize the PSU campus holds about 50,000 students, and there is a surrounding town, right? Do you think Paterno was the King, or Chancellor, or President or something and was the end all? It is a public campus, a campus in the middle of absolute no where. Do you think Joe could have single handedly kicked Jerry out of town?

[Churla22]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Jesus Christ...GARY SCHULTZ WAS THE HEAD OF THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. Who would you have liked him to go to?

Well, when nothing apparently got done, how about ANYbody else?

When you hear your friend raped a young boy, wouldn't YOU remain curious when he was still walking around campus for a decade?

He, himself, said he should have done more. He f*cked up, and his legacy is forever tarnished. I'm not seeing the necessity in going out of your way to defend the guy - we all know he was a great coach, and did some great stuff for his communities.

You build a thousand bridges, but f*ck one goat - nobody is calling you a bridge builder.

[D Y B FLYERS]

While I disagree with the posts of several of you, I appreciate the responses. I'm done discussing this. I am sure I am biased in portions of my thoughts, but arguing back and forth isn't going to get anywhere between us. Regardless, today I lost one of the classiest guys I have ever met in my entire life. Rest in peace Joe, I'll miss you.

[trey383]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Apparently you can't read. PSUPD is real police. They hold all jurisdiction over the entire PSU University Park Campus. University Park has it's own zip code, and post office. PSUPD is larger than the surrounding departments.

I can read fine mate,i can also comprehend the fact this university had more than one person high up who KNEW there was pedo action going on and did nothing about it.Why not call some police who are independant of the school instead of giving the pedo sympathisers time to cover their tracks again??

You are blinded by some bull**** loyalty to a school? With people in position of power who covered up multiple allegations of rape against young boys and you continue to defend them. You got issues man.

[CubsJunkie]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Gary Schultz was one of his immediate superiors.

And, how the f*ck would I know what Jerry was doing? He lived there. He has lived there for 30 some years. Blame the PSUPD for not doing anything, or the DA at the time, or the PA State Police. You do realize the PSU campus holds about 50,000 students, and there is a surrounding town, right? Do you think Paterno was the King, or Chancellor, or President or something and was the end all? It is a public campus, a campus in the middle of absolute no where. Do you think Joe could have single handedly kicked Jerry out of town?

There's plenty of blame on all the people and institutions that you mentioned INCLUDING PATERNO. You're making it seem like Paterno is the victim here and that's what's so disturbing.

If there was a surrounding town, why didn't Paterno call that police department or talk to Gary Schultz again since Sandusky is still wandering around the campus?? Or call anyone else?? What is so hard to comprehend? YOU are saying that Paterno could have done more, but when one of us calls Paterno out about not doing more, you defend him...which side are you on?

The way some people are defending Paterno for covering up this scandal, the perception is that he is treated like a king. Which is also very disturbing.

[ewen21]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

I never denied his firing wasn't warranted, but his demise, in my opinion, was.

What the hell ya talkin about?