Former Penn State Football Coach Jerry Sandusky Indicted On Sex Charges

[Redtown]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

Well then yes, it has already come out that Paterno followed protocol by informing the University athletic department of misconduct by a staff member. The University, in turn, was notified. From there, it is out of Paterno's hands. This is known as fact already.

The outcry is completely and irresponsibly being misdirected here. Paterno is obviously the biggest name, and because he is a revered legend and will be until the end of man, uninformed people are licking their chops to sh!t all over him.

Then we agree. Lets turn our attention to the grad asst. who failed to call the cops since he claimed to have witnessed the alleged crime. And of course the allegded homosexual pedophile.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by smashem

So then why is he leaving after this year or sooner, Jesus after hanging on for all these years he just figure's Ahhhh well the hell time to retire, You are the only one really backing him on this. Bottom line is he knew and whether someone else covered it up or not. He damn well knew about it.

There you are. I was wondering what deep thoughts you were going to contribute to this topic again.

There was a lot of speculation going into the season that this would be Paterno's last season. Christ, the guy's sideline role has been diminishing over the last few seasons anyway. He is 84 years old. He can coach until he damn pleases, and has done just that. Who knows, without all this scandal coming to light, he may have coached next season too. But the man is 84 years old and will retire with the most bowl wins and regular season wins in NCAA history. Don't you think he would rather enjoy his remaining years than stick around in the football program with all this fukking bullsh!t going on? I would.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by Redtown

Then we agree. Lets turn our attention to the grad asst. who failed to call the cops since he claimed to have witnessed the alleged crime. And of course the allegded homosexual pedophile.

That's what I'm saying. The focus should be on Sandusky, Curley, Schultz, Spanier, and even McQueary and the two detectives and the DA who all had plenty of evidence and damn near a confession in 1998 and didn't press charges.

Anyone who is directing his vitriol towards Paterno is so severely misinformed it's almost beyond comprehension. Really makes me worried about society going forward. And we have a major election year coming up. Yikes.

[Redtown]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

That's what I'm saying. The focus should be on Sandusky, Curley, Schultz, Spanier, and even McQueary and the two detectives and the DA who all had plenty of evidence and damn near a confession in 1998 and didn't press charges.

Anyone who is directing his vitriol towards Paterno is so severely misinformed it's almost beyond comprehension. Really makes me worried about society going forward. And we have a major election year coming up. Yikes.

Remember all the drama queens here who came out when Michigan football players practiced a couple hours more than they should have?

Football players, young men, practicing, to get better...OMG

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by Redtown

Remember all the drama queens here who came out when Michigan football players practiced a couple hours more than they should have?

Right, par for the course.

That's why I'm here: to educate the ignorant on subjects they know little about. I'm always more than happy to help out though. My fans expect nothing less.

[pesadillamal]

I wonder how many young boys this asshole raped after Paterno was informed of the incident in 2002. Maybe the victims will thank Joe for doing "what he was sujpposed to do".

There is a point when you have to figure out the right thing to do as far as being a human being is concerned and when it comes to kids being raped in the shower, you have to go beyond protocol and make sure this doesn't happen again. Paterno says he wishes he did more, but we should all accept that he did all he could I guess.

You are far from educating anybody Phila. You are making Paterno the victim in a case that involves many young boys being raped. Have fun with that.

[dodge8954]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

Well then yes, it has already come out that Paterno followed protocol by informing the University athletic department of misconduct by a staff member. The University, in turn, was notified. From there, it is out of Paterno's hands. This is known as fact already.

The outcry is completely and irresponsibly being misdirected here. Paterno is obviously the biggest name, and because he is a revered legend and will be until the end of man, uninformed people are licking their chops to sh!t all over him.

i agree with this but to not follow up with the situation and make sure the police department was informed makes him, if nothing else, guilty of being a sh1ty person.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

I wonder how many young boys this asshole raped after Paterno was informed of the incident in 2002. Maybe the victims will thank Joe for doing "what he was sujpposed to do".

There is a point when you have to figure out the right thing to do as far as being a human being is concerned and when it comes to kids being raped in the shower, you have to go beyond protocol and make sure this doesn't happen again. Paterno says he wishes he did more, but we should all accept that he did all he could I guess.

You are far from educating anybody Phila. You are making Paterno the victim in a case that involves many young boys being raped. Have fun with that.

You do understand that the only affiliation Paterno had with Sandusky in 2002 was that they worked in the same building, right? Paterno has nothing to do with whether or not Sandusky's charity football program was shut down any more than the volleyball coach at Ohio State does. Whether or not Sandusky was allowed to continue running his program on university grounds rests solely with the University, not Joe Paterno. Which part don't you understand? The easy concept to grasp or the easier one?

[Phila26Flyers]

Did you read the Grand Jury report, pesa?

[Baronking]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and may catch some flak here, but this whole situation annoys me. Not the incident in particular, but how much media attention it is getting.

The amount of boys that get sexually assaulted that goes unreported is probably more than anyone can imagine. Does that make it ok? No. But because this happened at Penn St. by a football coach, it is all of a sudden the next big tragedy in this country? The way people are all of a sudden sickened by something that probably happens every day just seems so fake to me.

Let the police do their job and quit ****ing pointing fingers at everyone. Does it make everyone feel better to freak out about Paterno just because he is well known. He didn't rape the kids. Did he have a role in not getting it resolved? Maybe, but he wasn't the only one aware of it. Get pissed off towards scumbag Sandusky, send him to prison and move on. I don't need to see 24/7 coverage of this "horrendous" incident.

Honestly I feel bad for the football players as their season has been ruined because of something that happened while they were still in elementary or middle school.

This isn't a sports issue. It is a university faculty and legal issue.

[Phila26Flyers]

Also, what good would it have been for Paterno to go to the police in 2002? According to testimony, the University, the athletic department, and local police departments all knew about Sandusky's sexual misconduct from 1998. They decided to not pursue criminal charges then, and allowed him to remain on campus and affiliated with the University. You, pesa, say Paterno should have gone to the police? Based on what? He didn't witness the crime. He heard about it from the sole witness. If anyone should have followed up and filed a police report, it should have been Mike McQueary. You really should read the testimony before you talk about things you know little about.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by Baronking

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and may catch some flak here, but this whole situation annoys me. Not the incident in particular, but how much media attention it is getting.

The amount of boys that get sexually assaulted that goes unreported is probably more than anyone can imagine. Does that make it ok? No. But because this happened at Penn St. by a football coach, it is all of a sudden the next big tragedy in this country? The way people are all of a sudden sickened by something that probably happens every day just seems so fake to me.

Let the police do their job and quit ****ing pointing fingers at everyone. Does it make everyone feel better to freak out about Paterno just because he is well known. He didn't rape the kids. Did he have a role in not getting it resolved? Maybe, but he wasn't the only one aware of it. Get pissed off towards scumbag Sandusky, send him to prison and move on. I don't need to see 24/7 coverage of this "horrendous" incident.

Honestly I feel bad for the football players as their season has been ruined because of something that happened while they were still in elementary or middle school.

This isn't a sports issue. It is a university faculty and legal issue.

You say you're playing devil's advocate but you're actually not. This is one of the more reasonable comments I've seen on this issue. The general public is so quick to point fingers and light the torches and it always results in someone undeserving of criticism taking the brunt of unfair criticism. The only reason this became an issue about Joe Paterno is because reactionary, uninformed people are allowed near computers. The focus should be fully on Jerry Sandusky and the heads of the athletic department, as well as the jerkoff detectives who had a chance to put this guy on probation and shut him down 13 years ago.

In the midst of all this, the football team is somehow 8-1, ranked 12th, and has a huge final home game on Saturday against Nebraska. They have a legitimate shot at the Big Ten championship and a Rose Bowl bid.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

You do understand that the only affiliation Paterno had with Sandusky in 2002 was that they worked in the same building, right? Paterno has nothing to do with whether or not Sandusky's charity football program was shut down any more than the volleyball coach at Ohio State does. Whether or not Sandusky was allowed to continue running his program on university grounds rests solely with the University, not Joe Paterno. Which part don't you understand? The easy concept to grasp or the easier one?

It goes beyond what was allowed to happen on campus grounds. When a man is doing things with a kid in the shower you best make sure that this predator is behind bars or dead. Talk about an easy concept to grasp. How many boys to you think were raped since 2002 by Sandusky?

You underestimate Paterno's power at Penn State also.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

Also, what good would it have been for Paterno to go to the police in 2002? According to testimony, the University, the athletic department, and local police departments all knew about Sandusky's sexual misconduct from 1998. They decided to not pursue criminal charges then, and allowed him to remain on campus and affiliated with the University. You, pesa, say Paterno should have gone to the police? Based on what? He didn't witness the crime. He heard about it from the sole witness. If anyone should have followed up and filed a police report, it should have been Mike McQueary. You really should read the testimony before you talk about things you know little about.

Nobody is stciking up for McQueary or any of the other assholes. There are people more at fault than Paterno for sure but that does not absolve him completely. I never said he should have went to the police so learn to read before you tell people what they know or don't know. I said he should have done whatever neccessarry to get to the bottom of these horrible accusations from the witness. Call the feds if you have to but you do a whole lot more than tell some suit. Many rapes since then.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

It goes beyond what was allowed to happen on campus grounds. When a man is doing things with a kid in the shower you best make sure that this predator is behind bars or dead. Talk about an easy concept to grasp. How many boys to you think were raped since 2002 by Sandusky?

You underestimate Paterno's power at Penn State also.

I agree with you. But I fail to see where Joe Paterno is to blame here. This scandal should be about Sandusky and the higher ups at PSU who failed to act and instead covered it up. People like you have spun this into Joe Paterno's wrongdoings and are ignoring the BIGGER, WORSE offenders. I'm not saying JoePa is 100% innocent, but he is so far down the list, even below the school janitors, that he is a non-factor based on the facts that are out there at this point.

I strongly recommend you read the report. It will shed some real light on the sequence of events. After you read it, then you can interpret the facts however you'd like.