The Phillies Are Clueless!

[FlyersEnforcer]

Roy Halladay will have 30 wins this season and 25 complete games. Mark my word!

Our offense took a little break yesterday. They picked a great day with the best pitcher in the league shutting down the Asstros.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by FlyersEnforcer

Roy Halladay will have 30 wins this season and 25 complete games. Mark my word!

Our offense took a little break yesterday. They picked a great day with the best pitcher in the league shutting down the Asstros.

So far we have the best offense and best record in the league in every category. Almost seems too good to be true. Granted we haven't played good competition yet but so far nothing but good signs.

On a side note I'd like to hear what those who disliked or were indifferent to the Polanco signing are saying now. He's done more at the plate already than Feliz would do in a month. And I'm still waiting on the bad defense at 3rd base to show up.

[FlyersEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

So far we have the best offense and best record in the league in every category. Almost seems too good to be true. Granted we haven't played good competition yet but so far nothing but good signs.

On a side note I'd like to hear what those who disliked or were indifferent to the Polanco signing are saying now. He's done more at the plate already than Feliz would do in a month. And I'm still waiting on the bad defense at 3rd base to show up.

A few months ago, I was reading an article on Yahoo! (I know they usually make no sense) The guy that wrote it said that Polanco was the worst off season signing this off season. It was a laughable comment before he even played a game. Its even funnier now.

On a side note, the Phils can't bail out Cole Hamels in every game. This guy has become a fuking bum. Should have traded his ass instead of Cliff Lee. When Blanton comes back they need to send this f@ggot to the minors.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by FlyersEnforcer

A few months ago, I was reading an article on Yahoo! (I know they usually make no sense) The guy that wrote it said that Polanco was the worst off season signing this off season. It was a laughable comment before he even played a game. Its even funnier now.

On a side note, the Phils can't bail out Cole Hamels in every game. This guy has become a fuking bum. Should have traded his ass instead of Cliff Lee. When Blanton comes back they need to send this f@ggot to the minors.

I think I know the article you're talking about. It was linked up with a New York Compost story where the writer claimed the Phillies had the worst offseason in MLB and letting go of Feliz for Polanco was his main point. So far I think Ruben looks like a genius, like with the Cliff Lee trade last year. The Post and Yahoo write about stupid sh!t all the time, like what the blue lines on ski slopes are for, and why don't figure skaters get dizzy when they spin.

...As for Lee, we all wish he wasn't traded. Trading Hamels was never an option because the Phillies collectively think he will rebound and get back on track this year. I think he's a girly man regardless what he did in '07 and '08 but I won't write him off just yet. Everyone has bad years and even though he hasn't looked great in his first two starts this year I think he'll be back on track soon enough...if not trade him before the deadline for a real #2.

[acd1]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

I think I know the article you're talking about. It was linked up with a New York Compost story where the writer claimed the Phillies had the worst offseason in MLB and letting go of Feliz for Polanco was his main point. So far I think Ruben looks like a genius, like with the Cliff Lee trade last year. The Post and Yahoo write about stupid sh!t all the time, like what the blue lines on ski slopes are for, and why don't figure skaters get dizzy when they spin.

...As for Lee, we all wish he wasn't traded. Trading Hamels was never an option because the Phillies collectively think he will rebound and get back on track this year. I think he's a girly man regardless what he did in '07 and '08 but I won't write him off just yet. Everyone has bad years and even though he hasn't looked great in his first two starts this year I think he'll be back on track soon enough...if not trade him before the deadline for a real #2.

Not "giving up" on shemale Cole Hamels is not a good excuse for getting rid of Cliff Lee.

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by acd1

Not "giving up" on shemale Cole Hamels is not a good excuse for getting rid of Cliff Lee.

Every player has a bad year. When Cole is on his game he is extremely valuable. I'm not going to write off his 2010 campaign based on two shaky starts. It's a long season. If he still looks like Jamie Moyer at the end of May then it may be time for some re-tooling.

[BStreetBullies]

God Cole is such a homo. They showed an interview before the game, it was about his letdown last season, and his struggles in the playoffs. He did it in his fukking home, with his stupid ugly baby on his lap, and his hideous wife holding his hand the entire time. Be a fukking man, chew tobacco, beat your kids, and do the interview in a booth of your favorite back alley bar (hopefully not a gay bar). He is such a queer, I will never like this f aggot as long as his career goes, successful or not, I hope this fagmo gets AIDS.

On another note, his changeup looked good yesterday, he still has a lot of work to do, but as always, the bats bail him out.

Definitely worried about Rollins, he looked awesome out of the gate, heard we could lose him for a month or so.

This team, especially it's offense looks just incredible, but I'll reserve my excitement for when they play real teams. The Nats and Astros are cake, it's not even fair, we still have question marks, especially i the back end of our bullpen, I'd be a little more happy if I knew how Lidge and Romero were to turn out, so give it some time.

[FlyersEnforcer]

According to ESPN deportes Phillies are talking to Pedro again.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/0...-phillies.html

[BStreetBullies]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to have him on the squad again. But we shouldn't fit to his demands, we should be able to use him how we want and when we want, also when it comes to October, we damn well better not have to rely on him to pitch huge games.

[Flyers2001]

This offense is scary! They ahve fast some scary bad pitching as well.

I think this start is due to the Phils excellent approach at batting as well as sub par pitching from some weaker opponets. the Phils are doing exactly what you are suppose to do to inferior competition. Crush them! It will be interestign to see if they can continue with their current approach and take pitches and wear down the pitchers. Its also hard to say that the Nats are as terrible as their record would indicate because all they have played is the Phils so far. The Phils and nats record at the end of April will be a lot more telling.

[Phila26Flyers]

What a joke! The bullpen gets one inning of work tonight and inherits an 8-2 lead and gives up four runs. I don't don't what Roy's pitch count was but we should have just let him do his thing.

[Flyers2001]

Originally Posted by acd1

Not "giving up" on shemale Cole Hamels is not a good excuse for getting rid of Cliff Lee.

That got rid of Lee because they weren't going to sign him after this year, made a bad offer to tender Fat Joe, made a bad move to sign jaime Moyer for 2 years instead of 1, and finally felt they needed to somewhat restock the system with the departure of the picks to get Lee and Halladay. It is what it is and its time to move on. We now know Amaro won't sit still if he feels the staff is not getting it done.

[Flyers2001]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

What a joke! The bullpen gets one inning of work tonight and inherits an 8-2 lead and gives up four runs. I don't don't what Roy's pitch count was but we should have just let him do his thing.

Before you jump, hopefully you watched what took place and understand its a freak occurance that a team gets three infield singles. Besdies the long shot over Victorino, Herndon pitched fine. He is a ground ball pitcher and did exactly that, the conditions and some well placed balls based on luck is what led to the 4 runs. Sh*t happens. Roy's pitch count was 100. No need to kill him when they have a 6 run lead with those conditions. Charlie will let him do his things when he is most needed.

The other thing is he threw the most pitches (26) for himself in the 8th inning giving up the run.

[FlyersEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Flyers2001

That got rid of Lee because they weren't going to sign him after this year, made a bad offer to tender Fat Joe, made a bad move to sign jaime Moyer for 2 years instead of 1, and finally felt they needed to somewhat restock the system with the departure of the picks to get Lee and Halladay. It is what it is and its time to move on. We now know Amaro won't sit still if he feels the staff is not getting it done.

Lee said he was more than willing to stay in Philly. Amaro has done a great job since he came in. So its hard to get on him. However, his reason, was he didn't want to deplete the farm system of prospect. All of this could have been prevented if we just got Halladay last year. We didn't because drabek was "untouchable" So we trade for Cliff Lee, and got rid of some good players. Then he decides he does want Halladay and Drabek is no longer untouchable, so we trade him, lee, Micheal Taylor and some other good prospects. That to me made no sense. Drabek was untouchable, then he gets traded along with a cy young winner. we ended up losing more.

[Flyers2001]

Originally Posted by FlyersEnforcer

Lee said he was more than willing to stay in Philly. Amaro has done a great job since he came in. So its hard to get on him. However, his reason, was he didn't want to deplete the farm system of prospect. All of this could have been prevented if we just got Halladay last year. We didn't because drabek was "untouchable" So we trade for Cliff Lee, and got rid of some good players. Then he decides he does want Halladay and Drabek is no longer untouchable, so we trade him, lee, Micheal Taylor and some other good prospects. That to me made no sense. Drabek was untouchable, then he gets traded along with a cy young winner. we ended up losing more.

You have to understand the way the job works. No one is untouchable for the right price, if you think otherwise your insane. Amaro all along wanted Halladay. That was his prize jewel. As soon as he realizes he can swing a deal that can land Halladay with a reasonable 3 year deal, he takes it. Trading Lee was seperate for the reasons I mentioned previously.

Regardless if Lee said he wanted to stay in Philly it depended on a lot more than just his word. the Phillies are clearly not interested in giving pitchers, let a lone pitchers in their 30's any more than 3 year deals. The rumours coming out of Lee's camp sounded like CC money. Granted they are rumours, but if you could have Halladay or Lee, who would you take? Would love to have both, but that wasn't an option to the higher heads.

You didn't loose more, you stole Lee for 4 middle of the road at the most prospects. Lee helped get you to a World series. You turn around and swing Lee for equal or greater value in the prospects that you brought back for him. Then you make a total seperate trade in dropping Drabek and Taylor. I think the main part as to why we didn't get Halladay last year was the unwillingness of Amaro to include Happ in that deal.