WJC 2013 World Junior Championships Thread

[Killah_punk]

Originally Posted by habsfan1122

at least this tournament finally exposed huberdeau as a fraud.............. and jonathan drouin as a surprisingly great player for a 17 yrs old

i knew all these yrs hes just a product of a powerful junior team, not a great player

now lets see what my boy galchenyuk does for usa...

i still dont know if im cheering for usa or sweden, probably usa.

I don't know why people think Huberdeau is NHL ready, he is very weak physically. He would get crushed playing against men. Drouin is a very good young player. I get the pleasure to watch him play on a regular basis. I was not impressed with Steve Spott, poor coaching and he seemed to have a bias for the OHL guys.

[habsfan1122]

Originally Posted by Killah_punk

I don't know why people think Huberdeau is NHL ready, he is very weak physically. He would get crushed playing against men. Drouin is a very good young player. I get the pleasure to watch him play on a regular basis. I was not impressed with Steve Spott, poor coaching and he seemed to have a bias for the OHL guys.

the bias wasnt about ohl guys it was all about qmjhl guys.

ouellet, danault, huberdeau, drouin, mckinnon and who else... oh yeah, hudon.

mckinnon and ouellet had nothing to do there... drouin i can see the point, they want to give him experience at 17yrs old so hes a great player for team canada at 18-19. but the main point is this one, huberdeau isnt nearly has good as people say he is... i still cant believe some ppl think he was a good 3rd choice overall. one must follow the Q to see hes not THAT good. with charlie coyle, zack philips, tomas jurco, beaulieu, and all these guys on the seadogs he was looking great but now that theyre all gone, hes not even close to be a top scorer in the q.

this tournament also exposed malcolm subban... i cant be sad though when thinking the bruins spent a 1st round pick for that garbage

[habsfan1122]

Here are the projected lineups for the game:

UNITED STATES

John Gaudreau - J.T. Miller - Jimmy Vesey

Alex Galchenyuk - Sean Kuraly - Riley Barber

Blake Pietila - Cole Bardreau - Ryan Hartman

Rocco Grimaldi - Vincent Trocheck - Tyler Biggs

Mario Lucia

Jake McCabe - Seth Jones

Patrick Sieloff - Jacob Trouba

Mike Reilly - Connor Murphy

Shayne Gostisbehere

John Gibson gets the nod in goal, with Jon Gillies the backup.

Starting goalie Gibson is 4-2 in six appearances at the WJC. He is tops among all tournament goalies with a 1.42 goals-against average and .954 save percentage.

SWEDEN

Filip Forsberg - William Karlsson - Filip Sandberg

Sebastian Collberg - Elias Lindholm - Emil Molin

Alexander Wennberg - Viktor Arvidsson - Rickard Rakell

Victor Rask - Jacob de la Rose - Nick Sorensen

Tom Nilsson - Mikael Vikstrand

Rasmus Bengtsson - Robert Hagg

Emil Djuse - Linus Arnesson

Christian Djoos - Jeremy Boyce Rotevall

Niklas Lundstrom will start in goal and Joel Lassinantti will serve as backup.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=12573

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by habsfan1122

the bias wasnt about ohl guys it was all about qmjhl guys.

ouellet, danault, huberdeau, drouin, mckinnon and who else... oh yeah, hudon.

mckinnon and ouellet had nothing to do there... drouin i can see the point, they want to give him experience at 17yrs old so hes a great player for team canada at 18-19.

ok so you're contradicting yourself...it's ok to give one 17yr old a chance to be ready for his 18 & 19 yr old chances at the wjc, but not ok for them to give another one that same opportunity especially considering they both are good, if not great at there age?

as for danault, he did just fine. he played a role, he isn't accustomed too and did good in that said role.

[habsfan1122]

Originally Posted by chilly666

ok so you're contradicting yourself...it's ok to give one 17yr old a chance to be ready for his 18 & 19 yr old chances at the wjc, but not ok for them to give another one that same opportunity especially considering they both are good, if not great at there age?

as for danault, he did just fine. he played a role, he isn't accustomed too and did good in that said role.

difference between drouin and mckinnon is that drouin is able to play at this level but mckinnon struggled in camp... drouin was so impressive he ended playing on the first line with scheeifle and nugent-hopkins and SCORED instead of huberdeau... on the other hand mckinnon was benched and when he had a little of ice time he was frustrated and took VERY bad frustration penalties.

btw danault knows a lot about penalty killing... he came in the qmjhl at 16yrs old being one of the good penalty killers in the league... but he wasnt impressive with 1 assist in the tournament

[chilly666]

that was not the point you made prior about mackinnon or drouin. mackinnon prior to the tournament earned his spot with his play. if you're gonna say one elite 17yr old deserves a chance to play, then another one does. that had no effect on how each played in the tourney.

you're one of the very few saying danault was not impressive. he may not have scored, but he played very well in his role compared to some others on team canada

[habsfan1122]

Originally Posted by chilly666

if you're gonna say one elite 17yr old deserves a chance to play, then another one does.

no

you can play an underager to develop him but two is too much, mckinnon was completly out matched in this tournament but drouin wasnt.

team canada expected danault to be a little more than a unidimensionnal defensive forward with his 44pts in 29 games. he was given an offensive role on the 3rd line and steve spott even said he would play 3 offensive lines and danault was on one of these. to me he simply underachieved because he was supposed to score and play defense, but he only played penalty killing well.

but anyway its not because of a marginal 3rd liner's fault if we looked bad in this tournament. its more about playing garbage goaltenders like subban and binnington, playing garbage defensemen like murphy and reinhart...

[chilly666]

#2013WJC Directorate Awards. MVP & Best GK: John Gibson (USA) Best DE: Jacob Trouba (USA) Best FW: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (CAN)

#2013WJC All-Star Team: John Gibson - Jacob Trouba, Jake McCabe - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, John Gaudreau, Filip Forsberg.

via iihf

MVP of WJHC as selected by media: John Gibson

via mark masters

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by Hagstrom

Nice to see Canada beat the States after Seth Jones ran his mouth and said the US was the best team at the tournament.

what now?

[IhateLindros]

Gibson was unreal.

[habsfan1122]

if we traded john gibson for malcolm subban canada would have won the gold medal. hands down john gibson.

[chilly666]

2014 Groups in Malmo

Group A: USA (1), Canada (4), Czech Republic (5), Slovakia (8), Germany (9).
Group B: Sweden (2), Russia (3), Switzerland (6), Finland (7), Norway (10).

[HardHitt3n]

Originally Posted by IhateLindros

Gibson was unreal.

the defense and goaltending was unreal by usa

[Killah_punk]

Originally Posted by IhateLindros

Gibson was unreal.

He was great all tournament and easily deserved the MVP. Trouba also impressed me. Seth Jones showed why he will be a top 3 pick in the upcoming draft.

Anyways congrats to the Americans they played well as a team and deserved the gold. Phil Housley deserves some of credit too, he made adjustments after the first game against Canada and the game against Russia.

It's too bad Sweden didn't have Zibanejad, Klefbom, Brodin and Lindholm. They could of been a real force. The loss was the first loss in 11 games at the World Juniors too that's an impressive run.

I also am not a fan of the Russian's taunting the Canadian bench after the game ended. Very classless.

[chilly666]