Shooting at Webster Fire

[theknuckler]

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...ng-firefighter

“I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down and do what I like best: killing people,”

[cookie monster]

Isn't that what caused the kid to go Nazi in American History X?

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by shaud19

The more NRA trys to defend guns the more stupid and monstrous they look.

It's not their defense of guns that makes the NRA stupid; it's the rhetoric and arguments they use.

[OilersHockey]

Originally Posted by cookie monster

Isn't that what caused the kid to go Nazi in American History X?

Yes - I actually thought about that exact thing

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by Phila26Flyers

It's not their defense of guns that makes the NRA stupid; it's the rhetoric and arguments they use.

Exactly.

The NRA should simply have said: "Bad things happen sometimes. Suck it up, bitches."

Even if we lived in the fascist, government-controlled, liberty-deprived "utopian society" that Obama fantasizes about, bad things would still happen. That's one of the more unpleasant aspects of life; sometimes, people die.

It's much easier to play on people's emotions and exploit an incident wherein 23 children are killed by a gun-wielding mad man, than one in which 23 children were killed in a bus crash or by a tornado. Nothing for agenda-driven politicians and media propagandists to exploit there.

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Exactly.

The NRA should simply have said: "Bad things happen sometimes. Suck it up, bitches."

Even if we lived in the fascist, government-controlled, liberty-deprived "utopian society" that Obama fantasizes about, bad things would still happen. That's one of the more unpleasant aspects of life; sometimes, people die.

It's much easier to play on people's emotions and exploit an incident wherein 23 children are killed by a gun-wielding mad man, than one in which 23 children were killed in a bus crash or by a tornado. Nothing for agenda-driven politicians and media propagandists to exploit there.

Agreed! NRA needs to shut the **** up! Go figure, another crazy, disturbed **** in a nation of 310 million people.

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Exactly.

The NRA should simply have said: "Bad things happen sometimes. Suck it up, bitches."

Even if we lived in the fascist, government-controlled, liberty-deprived "utopian society" that Obama fantasizes about, bad things would still happen. That's one of the more unpleasant aspects of life; sometimes, people die.

It's much easier to play on people's emotions and exploit an incident wherein 23 children are killed by a gun-wielding mad man, than one in which 23 children were killed in a bus crash or by a tornado. Nothing for agenda-driven politicians and media propagandists to exploit there.

Actually, Obama fantasizes about a society where super cool libertarians stick to pushing shopping carts at Wal-Mart and leaves intelligent debate to those that still reside in reality.

The reason this debate will never end is because both sides have valid points. There is really no logical reason why so many guns are produced, why they are so easy for bad guys to obtain and why people need semi auto rifles to protect their homes. It is protected by law and by the constitution, so until someone proposes a law banning them and its passed, why bother discussing it?

No one can argue that harsher laws for those that use guns for illegal activities and those who are their guns to be used for illegal activities helps everyone. It shows that the law abiding gun owners are responsible and hopefully it cuts down on gun related crimes.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by cookie monster

Actually, Obama fantasizes about a society where super cool libertarians stick to pushing shopping carts at Wal-Mart and leaves intelligent debate to those that still reside in reality.

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Cool. I'm glad he has something to whack off to. If he could see the way you lick his balls and nose-vacuum his taint, it would probably make him even more excited.

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Cool. I'm glad he has something to whack off to. If he could see the way you lick his balls and nose-vacuum his taint, it would probably make him even more excited.

I've never actually met the guy, so your scenario is as implausible as you not being a rightwing republican.

What point are you trying to make by constantly lying about the guy? That you're a bitter crybaby? That you're trying to replace Big Jack? That you sorely lack attention, so you just seek it here?

The fact is Obama has never done anything to make any aspect of gun ownership more difficult during his term in office, something the liars like you claimed he would.

The only utopia Obama and his followers are looking for is one without lies about the guy. I realize it's allot to ask because it's all you got, but you should try it.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by cookie monster

I've never actually met the guy, so your scenario is as implausible as you not being a rightwing republican.

Good lord, dude... Must I perpetually suffer your ignorance where political ideology is concerned? Once and for all, I'm a conservative, not a Republican. Republicans are entirely too big government/left-wing to suit my pro-liberty, pro-individual, pro-fiscal responsibility purposes. I have as little use for Democrat-lite John Boehner as I do for big-spending Barry-O.

Libertarians are right-wingers/conservatives (in that they believe in limited government, the Constitution and fiscal responsibility) who believe that the government has no business sticking its big nose into social, religious or moral issues. Republicans, like Democrats, but unlike me, believe the government needs to interfere with the personal lives of private individuals, apparently because they'll never be grown-up enough to manage their own lives without the ever-so-helpful wisdom and guidance of big-daddy government.

Originally Posted by cookie monster

What point are you trying to make ... about the guy? That you're a bitter crybaby? That you're trying to replace Big Jack? That you sorely lack attention, so you just seek it here?
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Yeah, I'm just a big, ol' attention whore. That's my m.o.. What a brilliant theory.

I think it's hilarious that you take so personally my well-founded attacks on Obama's polarizing pro-government politics. You just love you some Obama, any time, all the time. Put aside your Obama bro-mance, if you can... at least while you're discussing politics. It robs you of any objectivity or credibility you might have, where Obama is concerned.

No, I'm just providing a badly-needed counter-balance to your reverse-bigjack, attention-whore, pro-Obama extremism. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, you've made yourself notorious around hf.com for your rose-colored Obama glasses. "Physician, heal thyself."

[cookie monster]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Good lord, dude... Must I perpetually suffer your ignorance where political ideology is concerned? Once and for all, I'm a conservative, not a Republican. Republicans are entirely too big government/left-wing to suit my pro-liberty, pro-individual, pro-fiscal responsibility purposes. I have as little use for Democrat-lite John Boehner as I do for big-spending Barry-O.

Libertarians are right-wingers/conservatives (in that they believe in limited government, the Constitution and fiscal responsibility) who believe that the government has no business sticking its big nose into social, religious or moral issues. Republicans, like Democrats, but unlike me, believe the government needs to interfere with the personal lives of private individuals, apparently because they'll never be grown-up enough to manage their own lives without the ever-so-helpful wisdom and guidance of big-daddy government.



Yeah, I'm just a big, ol' attention whore. That's my m.o.. What a brilliant theory.

I think it's hilarious that you take so personally my well-founded attacks on Obama's polarizing pro-government politics. You just love you some Obama, any time, all the time. Put aside your Obama bro-mance, if you can... at least while you're discussing politics. It robs you of any objectivity or credibility you might have, where Obama is concerned.

No, I'm just providing a badly-needed counter-balance to your reverse-bigjack, attention-whore, pro-Obama extremism. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, you've made yourself notorious around hf.com for your rose-colored Obama glasses. "Physician, heal thyself."

"well founded attacks"....

You couldn't have just said "my opinion", could you?

This is exactly the reason why I think you a complete and total fraud.

Fact is I have mentioned numerous times issues I have with Barack Obama and don't think he's perfect.

He's just not some "freedom robbing, socialist, communist, liberal who's trying to take away your guns so he and his black panther party can take over" cartoon you try to make him out to be, and when you do I'm going to call you on your BS.

[theknuckler]

Originally Posted by 29th_Candidate

Exactly.

The NRA should simply have said: "Bad things happen sometimes. Suck it up, bitches."

Even if we lived in the fascist, government-controlled, liberty-deprived "utopian society" that Obama fantasizes about, bad things would still happen. That's one of the more unpleasant aspects of life; sometimes, people die.

It's much easier to play on people's emotions and exploit an incident wherein 23 children are killed by a gun-wielding mad man, than one in which 23 children were killed in a bus crash or by a tornado. Nothing for agenda-driven politicians and media propagandists to exploit there.

the other 10,000+ killings with guns we dont hear about are random acts usually done with people who know eachother, either wife/husband or gang related drug things. We hear about the tragedys like this because they are tragedys.

[29th_Candidate]

Originally Posted by theknuckler

the other 10,000+ killings with guns we dont hear about are random acts usually done with people who know eachother, either wife/husband or gang related drug things. We hear about the tragedys like this because they are tragedys.

I'm not sure I get your point. The same could be said for the thousands of stabbings, chokings, bludgeonings, etc., that occur, could it not?

[ValJamesRules]

This happened less than 10 miles from where I grew up, and am very familiar with the neighborhood where it happened. I used to go bullhead fishing down there with my father all the time when I was a youngster.

The guy should have never been let go from jail. I don't care what type of mental instabilities one may have, they can end up manifested in extremely violent actions. He told his blind, 92 year old gramma not to go downstairs, then bludgeoned her when she did. He should have fried!!! Sadly, we will probably see more of these things because there is not enough money for treatment of "insane" people in public institutions, and they are getting put back on the streets. I feel it is kind of a shame that he took his own life. I envision a more torturous death for those that premeditate slaughters like this.

My thought are with the families of the dead, the injured and those that lost their homes in the fires.