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Old 12-24-2012, 12:42 PM
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Webster, N.Y. -- Two firefighters have died after being shot at the scene of a fire on Lake Road in Webster early Monday.

Webster's Police chief confirms that another two firefighters were also shot and are being treated for their injuries.

Chief Gerald Pickering says one of the firefighters was able to escape in his private vehicle, while the others remained pinned down for around an hour.

The fire started around 5:30 a.m. at 191 Lake Rd. near Bay Rd. Webster Fire tells 13WHAM News that a gunman opened fire on the fire crews.

Of those first responders, Webster’s Police chief says firefighters Mike Chiapperini and Tomas Kaczowka were shot and died at the scene. Chiapperini was also a member of the Webster Police Department. Kaczowka was a member of the fire department and a 911 dispatcher.

The other two firefighters that were shot are Theodore Scardino and Joseph Hofsetter. They were transported to Strong Memorial Hospital and are listed in guarded condition. Doctors at Strong Hospital say Scardino was shot twice, once in the shoulder and once in the knee. Hofsetter was shot in the pelvis.

A fifth individual, off-duty Greece police officer John Ritter, was injured by shrapnel.

Pickering says that the suspected shooter has been found dead near the property where the fire began, and that there is no longer a threat to the area. No details about the suspect have been released.

He also said that the suspect may have created the fire as a trap for the first responders.

We're told four homes were destroyed as a result of the fire. 33 neighbors in the immediate area were evacuated from their homes.

13WHAM has several crews at the scene and elsewhere and will provide updates as they're available.
http://www.13wham.com/news/local/sto...KegOnofrg.cspx
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:45 PM
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I'm waiting for the NRA to propose arming all firefighters with assault rifles...idiots!
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:49 PM
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I'm waiting for the NRA to propose arming all firefighters with assault rifles...idiots!
Lol, I just posted that in the Gun Control thread.

I don't begrudge them the effort though: they're capitalists just like everyone else and spun that school shooting really well. I mean, the gun company's response to the slaughter was to ask the government for money for MORE guns. I thought it was brilliant. Its up to everyone else to see that its absolute nonsense, but I thought it was really well done.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:10 PM
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Unfortunately firemen getting shot at happens more than the news talks about. God bless them and their families.

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Old 12-24-2012, 01:11 PM
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Lol, I just posted that in the Gun Control thread.

I don't begrudge them the effort though: they're capitalists just like everyone else and spun that school shooting really well. I mean, the gun company's response to the slaughter was to ask the government for money for MORE guns. I thought it was brilliant. Its up to everyone else to see that its absolute nonsense, but I thought it was really well done.
Where did that happen?
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:27 PM
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Unfortunately firemen getting shot at happens more than the news talks about. God bless them and their families.
If not for the Sandy Hook shooting, this probably wouldn't be making national headlines. Timing is everything.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:28 PM
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Made it onto the news here. As others have said after the Sandy Hook shootings, if they stopped giving acts of lunacy like this, carried out by lunatics, the airtime they get, then they might think twice before comitting these crimes before offing themselves and just go and do it in some quiet room or woodland or whatever. A lot of the time it's about being p*ssed at the world and comitting suicide, but doing it in a way that makes them remembered/reviled.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:46 PM
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Where did that happen?
Its in the statement I posted in that thread.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:51 PM
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terrible news. especially to firefighters near where I grew up. The worlds a sick place sometimes.
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:16 AM
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I've given up on society as a whole anymore. Just disgusting.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:21 AM
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The guy had already spent 17 years in jail for killing his grandmother with a hammer.

Should have been thrown off a cliff then, and none of this would have happened now.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:33 AM
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The guy had already spent 17 years in jail for killing his grandmother with a hammer.

Should have been thrown off a cliff then, and none of this would have happened now.
I read that too. How in the hell does someone get out of jail after killing someone with a hammer?
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:52 AM
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I read that too. How in the hell does someone get out of jail after killing someone with a hammer?

I'm surprised he did as long as he did
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:41 PM
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A college friend of mine is a volunteer firefighter and he was understandably angry about this. I saw a picture he posted of the two firefigher hard hats at a dinner table in remembrance of them. Can't put into words how much it pains me and others to see people doing their jobs, putting their life in dangers for others, and then get killed by a crazy person. The more NRA trys to defend guns the more stupid and monstrous they look.
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