Islamic extremists storm US embassies in Egypt and Libya

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by fcm

Sputnik... they're hopeless. Stop wasting your time... For them, there's only one world, and it's their's. Blame it on the stupid medias they have.

Originally Posted by fcm

You try to cinvince us Sputnik is wrong, yet all you do is make socialist references.

That's American education for you.

Originally Posted by fcm

Obviously you don't have much to say anymore. But my keyboard is American and the I touch is right next to the O.

Blind patriotism is hard to defend, I'll give you that.

Yeah, you are really adding to the debate there, FCM. You never had anything to say except desperate attempts to ride Sputniks weiner.

Now go grind your axe some more, then chop off your typing hand please.

[Sputnik]

Originally Posted by caps87

Someone help me out here. I get these guys were extremeists not operating under government authority. But an attack on an embassy is an act of war. And we're doing nothing at all?

Libya has arrested 50 people for the attack on the american consulate and they claimed it was al-Qaeda planning the whole thing.

The majority of embassies were not exactly attacked from what I read/saw on the news, more like there were mobs protesting and sometimes throwing rocks or burning US flags... sadly nothing new.
However these were not directly promoted by any of these governements, but I have some doubts on Sudan and a couple of other countries.

What to do?

I agree with RC, the drone strikes mentioned are the most efficient way (although not perfect) to deal with terrorist groups heavens without deploying soldiers in any country.
Strikes in Yemen and Afghanistan/Pakistan border have been way more effective than ground operations so far.
Anyway you cannot really stop angered mobs when the next film anti-Islam or more Mohamed cartoons come out.

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Yes, it WAS an opinion, just like if I tell you how I "think it works" it would also be AN OPINION.

Waiting for it...

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

I think there is/ always has been havoc in that part of the world, US participation or not.

Yes, I think that many innocent people have been needlessly killed- but that's a 2-way street. I also think that their style of warfare lends itself to civilian casualties. I take no pleasure in the deaths of innocent people...

Do YOU think that the US "controls" the oil in the middle east?

Do you think that our support of Israel - who has been a staunch ally- is a big part of why they hate us?

Do you think that it was in the best interest of the citizens to rid them of Ghaddafi and Hussein?

I'm not talking about some hypothetical "havoc", I'm talking about the US involvement.

What "two way street" involves defending the country against an attack by a super power. did the US get attacked by Iraq? Did the citizens of Iraq have anything to do with Al Queda and Iranian funded soldiers fighting off the Americans? Do countries with limited firepower have any other option then resort to guerilla warfare?
Iraq is a fuked up country now. Previously it was ruled by a dictator which is about right in keeping all the religious factions at bay. We should never have entered that country.
It is in no way correct to say the citizens of Iraq are better off now. It's none of our damm business how countries are run and by who.

As far as the question about if we "control the oil in the middle east". I dont know if we do. But the US sure tries. Oil is a commodity that we have to chase we consume 25 percent of it and make 5 percent. Contrary to the nut jobs on the right we dont have vast reserves of oil just waiting to be tapped.

And yes Israel has a lot to do with the hatred of the US in that part of the world. Our relationship with Israel is not subject to change anytime soon.

[fcm]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Yeah, you are really adding to the debate there, FCM. You never had anything to say except desperate attempts to ride Sputniks weiner.

Now go grind your axe some more, then chop off your typing hand please.

I posted on this topic before Sputnik came in. You quoted 3 of my posts. I posted 13 times.

You want me to stop posting by chopping my hands? Looks like what they do in muslim countries... Please tell me more about these American values of freedom of expression.

No one managed to prove my points false. C2 started caring about useless details instead of arguing on the ideas. Pretty much like saying I'm right into my convictions. At the opposite, your points are being proven false by Sputnik and I like to turn the knife in your wound.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by fcm

IYou want me to stop posting

Oh for sure.

You're the french version of Blouin.

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by fcm

Crymaster did talk about "Muslims" and how hypocritical they were.

Way to compare religious people with religious people!

Originally Posted by fcm

When I posted that, the attack wasn't done.

But still... this is the proof that ALL Americans also kill muslims:

Originally Posted by fcm

There's nothing you can do, Sputnik. 'Muhricans are dah' best in dah' wurld and are always right about everything because they're 'Muhrica.

Originally Posted by fcm

This is the proof that all Americans are narrow minded.

Originally Posted by fcm

I posted on this topic before Sputnik came in. You quoted 3 of my posts. I posted 13 times.

Yeah, you are right... you had THESE ^^^^ gems as well.

You want me to stop posting by chopping my hands? Looks like what they do in muslim countries... Please tell me more about these American values of freedom of expression.

Apparently hyperbole and sarcasm elude you.

No one managed to prove my points false. C2 started caring about useless details instead of arguing on the ideas. Pretty much like saying I'm right into my convictions. At the opposite, your points are being proven false by Sputnik and I like to turn the knife in your wound.

Much like Sputnik, myself, C2 and everyone else.... what you posted here is largely opinion. How do you prove that "false"?

[fcm]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Much like Sputnik, myself, C2 and everyone else.... what you posted here is largely opinion. How do you prove that "false"?

Factual opinions*

[Sputnik]

Originally Posted by Jack Schitt

Much like Sputnik, myself, C2 and everyone else.... what you posted here is largely opinion. How do you prove that "false"?

Well, I'm still waiting for your opinion in how the export of resources works...

[flyersvikes]

Did anyone try watching this "movie"

Muhammad full movie - Innocence of Muslims 74 Min...

[cookie monster]

I liked the prequel better...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=r...&v=9OwFeYlY9GU