Children gunned down at U.S. school

[flyersvikes]

Originally Posted by canuck2

One incident doesnt create a valid statistical comparison idiot.

You are the idiot, you blabber on and on and started almost immediately after the massacre, so you fuk off. My point was that Conn. has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation and this kind of tragedy still happened.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...crime-us-state This is state by state statistics per 100,000 people.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/scorecard/CO
This is The Brady Campaigns state by state gun control scorecard.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by flyersvikes

You are the idiot, you blabber on and on and started almost immediately after the massacre, so you fuk off. My point was that Conn. has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation and this kind of tragedy still happened.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...crime-us-state

Yea what a point you made.

No matter the laws you're never going to avoid gun violence. But can we not have a reasonable discussion so we can cut down on the amount of carnage in the future?

the time is NOW to start talking. NRA and gun nuts say "not now" and when the heat dies down nobody is talking about it.

[flyersvikes]

Originally Posted by canuck2

Yea what a point you made.

No matter the laws you're never going to avoid gun violence. But can we not have a reasonable discussion so we can cut down on the amount of carnage in the future?

the time is NOW to start talking. NRA and gun nuts say "not now" and when the heat dies down nobody is talking about it.

I do not even disagree with some of your points, I am just very saddened right now like you and everybody else, I put a link some statistics with also a scorecard by the Brady Campaign. For the record I am not a "gun nut" nor do I even own a gun, sorry for snapping on you.

[kam]

Originally Posted by canuck2

"criminals" dont care about the laws. Yes. Neither do they in every other western country. But the people committing these henious crimes are not "criminals" , they are citizens often mentally unbalanced who have easy access to weapons.

Why not have some resonable laws that limit automatic weapons and require background checks? Why would any reasonable citizen who owns a gun object to that?

BTW the states with the most gun restrictions have the least gun crimes.

I must be way out of touch, I had to get a background check for my guns is that not the case anymore or is it certain states?

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by flyersvikes

I do not even disagree with some of your points, I am just very saddened right now like you and everybody else, I put a link some statistics with also a scorecard by the Brady Campaign. For the record I am not a "gun nut" nor do I even own a gun, sorry for snapping on you.

No problem, likewise.

Originally Posted by kam

I must be way out of touch, I had to get a background check for my guns is that not the case anymore or is it certain states?

Arizona you're pretty well free to buy whatever you want.

The republican nutjobs that run our state have introduced more pro gun legislation in recent years wanting guns in schools and pretty well anywhere in public. You know longer need a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

Yet they have cut funding for mental health.

bad combination.

[kam]

Originally Posted by canuck2

No problem, likewise.


Arizona you're pretty well free to buy whatever you want.

The republican nutjobs that run our state have introduced more pro gun legislation in recent years wanting guns in schools and pretty well anywhere in public. You know longer need a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

Yet they have cut funding for mental health.

bad combination.

Thats pretty stupid, as far as the canceled weapon thing that needs to be stricter as well. Too many stupid people that I wouldn't trust with a hammer and nail have a damn permit. All I have to do is fill out a form and pay a fee.

[Flyer_Frank]

The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–11 years of age[1]) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history.

The bomber was school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe, 55, who died in a car bomb he set off after he drove up to the school as the crowd gathered to rescue survivors from the burning school.

On the morning of May 18, Kehoe murdered his wife by beating her to death, then set his farm buildings on fire using incendiary devices. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many schoolchildren. As rescuers started gathering at the school, Kehoe drove up, stopped, and detonated a bomb inside his vehicle with his Winchester rifle, killing himself and the school superintendent, and killing and injuring several others. During rescue efforts searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol planted throughout the basement of the school's south wing. Kehoe apparently had intended to blow up and destroy the whole school.

[smashem]

Originally Posted by kam

I must be way out of touch, I had to get a background check for my guns is that not the case anymore or is it certain states?

Was there a question if you like your Co/Workers or Bosses, because if there was, you should be the last one having one from what you say.

[blackngold]

For anyone that likes to listen in on police scanners and all that stuff, here's the audio of the police/fire/emt's.

Newtown School Shooting Audio 12/14/12 - YouTube

[GOON 21]

This is still soooo fvcking shocking


I think they had to leave the crimescene alone (not remove bodies yet) while they are still doing the ongoing investigation, wow


Then i think about the family waking up the next morning after the news and some of them with christmas trees up/presents and the house is just empty, this is hearttugging


Like i said before its not far from me and although i didnt know anyone there (although i have close buddies who live a couple towns away, one who just had a halloween party) is a connection with it being very close to me, just sad


I hate mankind and humans sometimes

[theknuckler]

Originally Posted by GOON 21

This is still soooo fvcking shocking


I think they had to leave the crimescene alone (not remove bodies yet) while they are still doing the ongoing investigation, wow


Then i think about the family waking up the next morning after the news and some of them with christmas trees up/presents and the house is just empty, this is hearttugging


Like i said before its not far from me and although i didnt know anyone there (although i have close buddies who live a couple towns away, one who just had a halloween party) is a connection with it being very close to me, just sad


I hate mankind and humans sometimes

you said it.

[smashem]

Yes keep the kids bodies in there for a day and a half bothered me, Investigation does it really matter at this point 20 children dead and 6 others, another thing that bothers me is they keep saying 27. Leave him the fuk out of it. As far as the he was deranged theory. I wonder if he was when he was driving to the school, I mean my god there must have been set of lites within the 3mile route, Hmmm wonder if he was smart enough to stop at them, I'll also be honest i have the big hate factor towards his father and brother also

[NickDoh]

Another issue here is the mental illness thing; Now that makes the gun control thing look simple! But here's a decent read making the rounds today...

http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.c...kable.html?m=1

[Tucker_316]

You know your nation is ass backwards when they are pro gun rights and cant agree on freakin health care rights.

Hey, on the same exact day a crazy chinese nutjob went and attacked over 20 children with a knife, stabbing at them. Not one of them died.

Had it been a gun I think you see my point.

Get some sense America.

[theknuckler]

Originally Posted by Tucker_316

You know your nation is ass backwards when they are pro gun rights and cant agree on freakin health care rights.

Hey, on the same exact day a crazy chinese nutjob went and attacked over 20 children with a knife, stabbing at them. Not one of them died.

Had it been a gun I think you see my point.

Get some sense America.

God had some sort of plan for the children. Maybe these 20 had to perish so 10000s will live. Who knows.